TRon Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Just now, McCormick said: His dribbling is pretty underrated as well imo. Shows some lovely feet at times. That's why I would like to see him starting ahead of Gordon on the left tbh. Gordon is quicker, but Barnes seems to combine with Hall better. Not to mention he's a much better finisher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, TRon said: That's why I would like to see him starting ahead of Gordon on the left tbh. Gordon is quicker, but Barnes seems to combine with Hall better. Not to mention he's a much better finisher. Gordon only passes as a last option. Like he rarely passes at pace unless it’s a crosss - did have some lovely crosses mind. Gordon rarely links well with the fullback because the pass to the fullback is his last option. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: Gordon only passes as a last option. Like he rarely passes at pace unless it’s a crosss - did have some lovely crosses mind. Gordon rarely links well with the fullback because the pass to the fullback is his last option. The full back should be overlapping Gordon, but this doesn't seem to happen much. Whereas with Barnes, Hall quite regularly goes outside, maybe because he knows Barnes will deliver the ball at the right time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilovetoon8788 Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Barnes is the only one who knows how to play with Woltemade. As you can see from the assist yesterday. He runs in behind and stays close with wolte and that intelligence makes him a constant threat and he almost guarantees goals. Gordon on the hand goes too deep leaving wolte isolated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndonesianToon Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Or maybe howe just try to play with each player's strength. So specific instruction when team played with barnes and gordon. With gordon pace, he might be useful to surprise opponent with counter from deep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Still can’t understand this signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Think Howe mentioned the other day that Barnes doesn’t mind the right becuase he’s offered a bit more freedom to improvise and tuck in. Think Barnes is smart and self aware enough to know that if he’s on the pitch and putting his shift in he’ll be given the license to make things happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 I wonder if Gordon would have issues playing on the right for England or Liverpool? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: I wonder if Gordon would have issues playing on the right for England or Liverpool? He wouldn't ever have to worry on the England front as unless Saka and about 6 other players are injured he's got as much chance of getting a game there as I have Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elma Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Barnes can go missing in games but I'd have him on the field ahead of Gordon at the moment because his goals/assist record is so much better, and that's what counts at the end of the day. Murphy is pretty poor in possession but has developed a wicked delivery so my current two would be Barnes left and Murphy right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roids Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 On 22/10/2025 at 09:19, Roids said: our best lw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 3 hours ago, Dr Venkman said: Still can’t understand this signing. Nice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 Fine margins. Bet we were all hoping he'd just edge it back to Ramsey who was well positioned for a better effort percentage-wise (or XG wise). If he hadn't scored he'd be getting savaged for it. As it is he must have a Robert level of goals, goal involvements per minute ratio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 16 hours ago, Jonas said: Fine margins. Bet we were all hoping he'd just edge it back to Ramsey who was well positioned for a better effort percentage-wise (or XG wise). If he hadn't scored he'd be getting savaged for it. As it is he must have a Robert level of goals, goal involvements per minute ratio. lol no we weren’t. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 17 hours ago, Jonas said: Fine margins. Bet we were all hoping he'd just edge it back to Ramsey who was well positioned for a better effort percentage-wise (or XG wise). If he hadn't scored he'd be getting savaged for it. As it is he must have a Robert level of goals, goal involvements per minute ratio. It never crossed my mind and I have no issue with Barnes taking shots on, even if he isn't always the best placed. He has actually wasted some golden chances this season, but he is still our most ruthless finisher and is always thinking how to get the ball towards or into the goal. He often has a knack of managing to get a shot away where others wouldn't, too. It's horrendous keeping whatever way you look at it. But the only thing I can say in Perri's defence is I doubt he expected wor Harv to do a 360 and get a low shot in through bodies from there. I hadn't even noticed Ramsey until you mentioned this. Just watched it back. If he lays that off, by the time it gets to him he has two Leeds players about to come flying out at him. I doubt his shot even makes it past them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Begbie Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 22 hours ago, TRon said: The full back should be overlapping Gordon, but this doesn't seem to happen much. Whereas with Barnes, Hall quite regularly goes outside, maybe because he knows Barnes will deliver the ball at the right time. The full backs used to overlap Gordon but never received the ball, and when Gordon looses the ball they have to sprint home as he doesnt track back. Thats why Burn fits best on the back playing with Gordon as he tend to stay back. I do think Gordon is to much of a luxury player, Barnes is more suited for our system, the only thing is I dont think Barnes can last a full game and also be effective in the way he playes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 On 07/01/2026 at 22:47, Pilko said: I get fucking loads wrong so let me have this one please Feels like whenever there's a chaotic game with git loads of goals in it inclusive of late drama, he's bang in the centre of it scoring goals. Today, the West Ham home game, the 4-4 with Luton... just thrives on the chaos it seems! Absolute hero. played his part in our second goal in the cup final too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Got the highest goals+assists per 90 mins from our whole squad, outside of Osula not sure he counts. Nick Pope is nearly tied with Elanga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 It irks me that Gordon has 5 crack papering pens over giving them all to Woltemade. Add them and he's done well enough to feasibly leave the atmosphere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) On 08/01/2026 at 13:04, The College Dropout said: I wonder if Gordon would have issues playing on the right for England or Liverpool? I wonder more about issues sitting on the bench for Newcastle Edited January 9 by 1964 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 2 hours ago, Begbie said: The full backs used to overlap Gordon but never received the ball, and when Gordon looses the ball they have to sprint home as he doesnt track back. Thats why Burn fits best on the back playing with Gordon as he tend to stay back. I do think Gordon is to much of a luxury player, Barnes is more suited for our system, the only thing is I dont think Barnes can last a full game and also be effective in the way he playes. Maybe not for a prolonged run of games but he seemed pretty involved (even excluding the goal) right up to 110 mins of you include first half stoppage time on weds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 (edited) 4 hours ago, The College Dropout said: lol no we weren’t. Easy as fuck to say in hindsight like but would render the concept of squaring a ball and cut backs redundant if its preferable for players to squeeze in unlikely shots reliant on questionable goalkeeping. Why bother creating chances at all when the more unlikely thing is more likely. Suppose people just presumed Barnes would do something magical in the heat of the moment when they just wanted the ball hurled into the box in the last seconds of a game and were totally chilled about it and if it had been saved he'd be commended for trying instead of passing to someone else, its not like players would ever get slaughtered on here for taking shots in instead of passing. Like saying Murphy should have took the header on instead of teeing up Isak in the final. Edited January 9 by Jonas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 48 minutes ago, Jonas said: Easy as fuck to say in hindsight like but would render the concept of squaring a ball and cut backs redundant if its preferable for players to squeeze in unlikely shots reliant on questionable goalkeeping. Why bother creating chances at all when the more unlikely thing is more likely. Suppose people just presumed Barnes would do something magical in the heat of the moment when they just wanted the ball hurled into the box in the last seconds of a game and were totally chilled about it and if it had been saved he'd be commended for trying instead of passing to someone else, its not like players would ever get slaughtered on here for taking shots in instead of passing. Like saying Murphy should have took the header on instead of teeing up Isak in the final. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEntertainer Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I'm disappointed if a goal scoring forward isn't trying to score when he gets the ball on the penalty spot. I do see the layoff re-watching the goal, but I want my goal scorers to be trying to score from there. Woltemade tries to lay it off too often from that sort of position (though it does sometimes work as we saw with Barnes' other goal), I'd like to see him try and be a bit more aggressive and selfish when he's in the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 I wasn't thinking of "pass to Ramsey" tbh. There's no hindsight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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