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We're not a mid table squad that needs to make the best out of the little that we've got anymore. I don't see the problem with playing 2 attacking fullbacks personally. Most teams does. It's not like Livra sucks defensively either. We're supposed to dominate some of the teams in the league, and having fullbacks that are great with the ball is a part of that.

 

 

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1 hour ago, The Prophet said:

Harsh to blame Kelly for the goal like.

 

Hall and Kelly will be rotated throughout the season.

I don't blame Kelly for the goal, but his passing was awful and he was quite slow when should have closed down. Hall offers much more offensively.

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3 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said:

Don't forget Kelly is a CB, and I'd have him ahead of Burn.

 

I agree. We could use his pace there. Burn shouldn't be starting for us anymore IMO, unless there are even more injuries.

 

 

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Played his way back into the starting 11? Kelly played the old Dan Burn centre back playing left back role today. In fact at one point Dan Burn made a run down the left further than Kelly had all game and it was depressing as fuck.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Thought he was very good when he came on, absolutely love his positive intent. We saw last week that it can go wrong but it’s exactly how we should be playing and he did well defensively too

He's a very classy footballer, pings the ball about and reads the game so well.

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10 minutes ago, KaKa said:

In hindsight I really wish he had started the game today.

 

I really want to see how he would have dealt with that kind of pressure defensively.

True, but he is one of the best if not the best passer in this team, and we had so much trouble keeping possession. Miss after miss after miss.

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Just now, nufc123 said:

True, but he is one of the best if not the best passer in this team, and we had so much trouble keeping possession. Miss after miss after miss.

 

It's funny because last week, we also started Longstaff and Murphy, started the game terribly and we never got going, Hall was then also guilty of giving the ball away a number of times and almost costing us.

 

Howe had better stop with the Longstaff and Almiron/Murphy combo, or we are going to end up in big trouble.

 

It's putting us up on the back foot and taking the team out of rhythm completely.

 

If Hall is up against Semenyo that first half, I'm not certain we're still in the game at all.

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10 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

It's funny because last week, we also started Longstaff and Murphy, started the game terribly and we never got going, Hall was then also guilty of giving the ball away a number of times and almost costing us.

 

Howe had better stop with the Longstaff and Almiron/Murphy combo, or we are going to end up in big trouble.

 

It's putting us up on the back foot and taking the team out of rhythm completely.

 

If Hall is up against Semenyo that first half, I'm not certain we're still in the game at all.

You are not wrong, but I will never judge a player fully when we are one man down. They both have pros and cons I just think we have to accept that.

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Wonder if Hall's going to be used for home games and Kelly for away games.

 

Also, I said a few days ago, but I reckon he could be a terrific inverted right wing. What do we want in that position? A left footer with great technique who can shoot and pick a pass. A good athlete who can dribble and is two-footed enough to go down the outside and who'll get stuck in on the defensive side of the game. That is basically Lewis Hall.

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1 hour ago, Checko said:

Wonder if Hall's going to be used for home games and Kelly for away games.

 

Also, I said a few days ago, but I reckon he could be a terrific inverted right wing. What do we want in that position? A left footer with great technique who can shoot and pick a pass. A good athlete who can dribble and is two-footed enough to go down the outside and who'll get stuck in on the defensive side of the game. That is basically Lewis Hall.

 

I don't think that being defensive is necessarily better when playing away from home. If we sit deep and let them play their game like we did in the first half, we're basically just waiting for them to score first. In the 22/23 season we did well away from home by being fearless, not by being scared and defensive minded.

 

We did play Burn at LB that season, mind, which is not exactly an offensive choice anyways.. But we didn't look as defensive overall imo, which might just be due to tactics.

 

 

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46 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Hall is clearly a far better footballer than Kelly but a poorer athlete. I’ll be extremely frustrated if Kelly largely keeps Hall out of the side at LB when both are fit 

A poorer defender as well as athlete. The cross he headed out for a corner today was a near disaster for him in my eyes. He’d completely lost track of Semenyo who had got in front of him and it was pure chance the ball went over Semenyo’s head and fell to Hall. On another day the cross is perfect, the ball heads up in the net and everyone is wondering why Hall is half asleep.

 

I do like Hall a lot and think he has huge potential but this season is going to be a tough one where we’ll probably need to juggle Hall, Kelly and Burn based on a variety of factors.  

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