andycap Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Still think we should of subbed isak off that last twenty minutes he was a statue and was fucked. It was like playing with ten men even if we brought on a youngun up top to run about and make a nuisance might of getting us over the line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 6 minutes ago, pubteam said: We will all be part of the yellow wall that night. " Ich bin ein Westphalian". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infatuation Junkie Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Skeletor said: Every single Pundit, Talksport, average fan of other teams. Everyone can see it wasn't a penalty. There is no way "the best referee in the world" looked at those replays and genuinely made a mistake. It's not possible, it was so clear cut that it wasn't a penalty. The Qataris paid the referees off because they can't stand to be embarrassed by Saudis. Nail on the head. The ref waved off the pen. Hand on heart. Pierriluigi collina aside. That ref last night was the best ref I have ever seen controlling a game. Hands down 10/10. He would no have made that decision. We will never hear that conversation that’s for sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 minute ago, Infatuation Junkie said: Nail on the head. The ref waved off the pen. Hand on heart. Pierriluigi collina aside. That ref last night was the best ref I have ever seen controlling a game. Hands down 10/10. He would no have made that decision. We will never hear that conversation that’s for sure The fact the VAR cunt has already been stood down already shows that even UEFA know it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 (edited) Pressure in my opinion, soon as they told him to look at the screen they would have put doubt in his melon so went with the var recommendation. With them being stood down he obviously told uefa why he made the decision. Edited November 29, 2023 by andycap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 If they'd been paid off they would have given one of the previous 2 shouts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 To me they never showed him the better angle of the incident he's probably seen it since and admitted he got it wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, andycap said: Still think we should have subbed isak off that last twenty minutes he was a statue and was fucked. It was like playing with ten men even if we brought on a youngun up top to run about and make a nuisance might of getting us over the line. Yeah, I agree. The ball was literally bouncing off the lad - he was completely spent. I was surprised we didn’t bring on Dummett & Hall in stoppage time - both to add defenders, and to run down the clock Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, Skeletor said: Every single Pundit, Talksport, average fan of other teams. Everyone can see it wasn't a penalty. There is no way "the best referee in the world" looked at those replays and genuinely made a mistake. It's not possible, it was so clear cut that it wasn't a penalty. The Qataris paid the referees off because they can't stand to be embarrassed by Saudis. They already have history for bribing football officials. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, andycap said: Pressure in my opinion, soon as they told him to look at the screen they would have put doubt in his melon so went with the var recommendation. With them being stood down he obviously told uefa why he made the decision. Yep, last few minutes and nowhere to hide as VAR had called him over. Completely bottled it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: Yeah, I agree. The ball was literally bouncing off the lad - he was completely spent. I was surprised we didn’t bring on Dummett & Hall in stoppage time - both to add defenders, and to run down the clock I mean if he wanted to keep the setup as it was as it was working defensively that's fine but by subbing isak for legs and Harrying upfront could of took that little bit of pressure off and stemmed the waves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 I think I might have written on this thread somewhere during the game, but Pope’s ostentatious time-wasting doesn’t really help - we were punished by Liverpool last season under similar circumstances. That type of shithousing just leads to the referees adding ridiculous amounts of stoppage time on - all to delay a goal kick by about ten seconds. The club need to pack it in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 minute ago, andycap said: I mean if he wanted to keep the setup as it was as it was working defensively that's fine but by subbing isak for legs and Harrying upfront could of took that little bit of pressure off and stemmed the waves. Yeah, anything would have done. For me, the fact that PSG seemed to be creating roughly one chance per minute meant that we weren’t actually defending well at all those last 20 mins - PSG were just profligate. A goal looked inevitable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, andycap said: Pressure in my opinion, soon as they told him to look at the screen they would have put doubt in his melon so went with the var recommendation. With them being stood down he obviously told uefa why he made the decision. It was a VAR decision really. Reviewing the screen is a formality these days. I wouldn’t have minded half as much if the ref gave it in the moment and VAR didn’t overturn it. It’s the fact VAR interfered when not only was it not a clear and obvious error… it was clearly not an error at all. The Miley one was more a handball than that. It bounced off Miley too but Mileys hand was outstretched for no reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 4 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I think I might have written on this thread somewhere during the game, but Pope’s ostentatious time-wasting doesn’t really help - we were punished by Liverpool last season under similar circumstances. That type of shithousing just leads to the referees adding ridiculous amounts of stoppage time on - all to delay a goal kick by about ten seconds. The club need to pack it in. It would help the lads gather their breathe a bit more. 3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Yeah, anything would have done. For me, the fact that PSG seemed to be creating roughly one chance per minute meant that we weren’t actually defending well at all those last 20 mins - PSG were just profligate. A goal looked inevitable. It looked inevitable until about 92 minutes. Then it looked like they would just keep missing every chance they get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: It would help the lads gather their breathe a bit more. That’s my understanding too - but playing double the amount of likely stoppage time doesn’t help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Was there some daft twat crying about it on talksport phone in? Smacks of mackem’s wind up or audio click bait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 14 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: If they'd been paid off they would have given one of the previous 2 shouts. The money didn’t arrive in his account until the 97th minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Feels a lot less controversial after watching this: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 21 minutes ago, Infatuation Junkie said: The ref waved off the pen. Nah, he didn't react to it at all initially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 12 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I think I might have written on this thread somewhere during the game, but Pope’s ostentatious time-wasting doesn’t really help - we were punished by Liverpool last season under similar circumstances. That type of shithousing just leads to the referees adding ridiculous amounts of stoppage time on - all to delay a goal kick by about ten seconds. The club need to pack it in. Load of shite. Your patter that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Feels a lot less controversial after watching this: He got it wrong, the VAR was also in the World Cup final and probably his mate. Also missed the "ball going towards goal" thing with Miley. Think there's a chance he made the call to not embarrass his mate who made an error at VAR, which is obviously still fucked up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Agree with BrownBottle. 8 minutes was absurd and a disgrace from the officials but we really don’t need to be trying to eke out an extra five seconds on every single goal kick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, gbandit said: Agree with BrownBottle. 8 minutes was absurd and a disgrace from the officials but we really don’t need to be trying to eke out an extra five seconds on every single goal kick You know nowt about the modern game then. It's not just about "pinching" another few seconds. It's all about trying to disrupt the opposition whilst they are in the ascendancy. And believe me, they were battering us for the last 15/20 minutes. All teams do it, stop having a go at Pope (who was excellent by the way). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 14 minutes ago, Rod said: Load of shite. Your patter that is. thanks Rod Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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