The Prophet Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: I want to blame fatigue for the second half performance. But I feel like we bottled it. Ran out of steam? Aye. Naive? Maybe. Bottled it? Behave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, LiquidAK said: Extraordinary is not understanding that we were pushing too and Schar, regardless of position, is regularly a key attacking route for us. There is literally no need to find a scapegoat, it was a tradeoff we came out on the wrong side of. Not everything in football has to have a person or persons at fault, it's generally more complicated than that. Not looking to scapegoat, to me it’s an example of the naivety which has been consistent throughout the European campaign. We didn’t need to push. Milan did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Just now, Gawalls said: So you couldn’t see any chance of pope getting to the second? It was just a low shot across goal, the first granted. No, it was a really good finish, Pope isn't superman like, I don't think any keeper saves that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Devastated after that, thought we made a decent account of ourselves and should have been home and dry in that first half. Second half I think the nerves set in and the effort we put into the first half took its toll. Subs gave us a second wind but probably naively, we pushed the envelope too early and paid the price against a team looking to counter all night. It's been a rough couple of weeks for us but we've seen this before and we've come back better. Being completely out of Europe will probably help us to get some legs back but it doesn't really soften the blow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 minute ago, pedro111 said: Didn't seem like many on the box tbf. Hundreds if not thousands, ridiculous amount Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, Andy said: We had to win the game to qualify, I'm not going to rip into them for pushing on and having a go like, even if it was a bit naive. Quite happy to fuck the Europa League off, we can clearly do without the additional fixtures. Thing is though, we're good enough to challenge for the Europa League with a bit of luck, and it's also another route back into the Champions League if we win it. Would have been well worth going into that. Ah well ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bally21 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: There was almost ten mins of play left. We’re in the UEFA Cup, at a minimum, at that point. If we were in Europe every year, then perhaps we can sneer at the thought of the ‘step down’ into the UEFA Cup. But we qualified for Europe once in 15 years before this season. OK fair enough.. for me I've no problem with it... Edited December 13, 2023 by Bally21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Just wait till Fulham beat us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Officially will never stop thinking about that fucking handball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: Not looking to scapegoat, to me it’s an example of the naivety which has been consistent throughout the European campaign. We didn’t need to push. Milan did. We did if we wanted to stay in the CL. Honestly don't understand how you're not getting that. Winners give it all for the top prize, not second best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 We're running on fumes and I couldn't give a fuck what anyone says Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 minute ago, 54 said: I wouldn't say we "Bottled it" but do think we lacked the nous required to see them sort of games. Which lets be real, should be expected, we are way ahead of schedule, and this was a lot of these players first time playing at this level, was to be expected, hopefully the player group and management learn from it going forward. This is a nice way to say we bottled it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon_Geordie Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 The silver lining - is not in the euro league. Get the injured back, buy a couple and concentrate on the league again. Proud of the lads and this club. HWTL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bally21 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: There was almost ten mins of play left. We’re in the UEFA Cup, at a minimum, at that point. If we were in Europe every year, then perhaps we can sneer at the thought of the ‘step down’ into the UEFA Cup. But we qualified for Europe once in 15 years before this season. 'step down' are your words... not mine Edited December 13, 2023 by Bally21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 I don’t know what to say. It was in our grasps. Ugh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Just now, Dokko said: Just wait till Fulham beat us. This forum needs to find a way to lose the negativity. Do none of you have joy in your lives? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackflap Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Gutted but a little relieved to be honest. The prize money from qualification would've helped with FFP but any sort of run in Europe would kill us in the league IMO. Cast into the group of death, cursed with injuries, decisions cost us points and we still brought it to the wire. But the character and spirit that'll be forged from the experience will push this team onto another level. Get the bench back and get a bit of rest into the players legs and they'll fear nobody in the business end of the season. They'll feel robbed by fate of knockout European football and be running around with a bag of chips on their shoulders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyman Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Eddie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Just now, The College Dropout said: This is a nice way to say we bottled it. This is bollocks and I suspect deep down you know that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Gutted, I want us to use this as motivation and get back there ASAP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Just now, LiquidAK said: We did if we wanted to stay in the CL. Honestly don't understand how you're not getting that. Winners give it all for the top prize, not second best I do get it, it’s not complicated, but it’s not something which required an act of desperation at that point. It was naive. And given we have won literally nothing for six decades, I don’t think we can talk about ‘second best’. The UEFA Cup isn’t a booby prize. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Defending a 1-1 draw when a winner gets you into the next round is loser talk. We could’ve attacked with more nous. But we did need to score. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Just now, 54 said: No, it was a really good finish, Pope isn't superman like, I don't think any keeper saves that We’ll have to agree to to disagree - we’ve all seen Pope make some incredible saves and even the two times they hit the post he was well beaten. He just doesn’t change games for me, can’t see us ever saying “fuck me dubravka was MOTM for me” like we’ve all done for Pope. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Just now, Shearergol said: This forum needs to find a way to lose the negativity. Do none of you have joy in your lives? Just preparing you. Every game now is a game too far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Just now, LiquidAK said: This is bollocks and I suspect deep down you know that I think we were tired. We lost something ourselves. But what he described… is bottling it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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