Tosin Adarabioyo

[elbee909]

49 minutes ago, 80 said:

Keith Downie claiming the reason he didn't sign was he wanted a fee release clause in his deal, which we didn't want to get into the habit of offering. Supposedly the wage he's getting from Chelsea is basically the same as what we'd agreed, but they gave him the clause too, which is a new story.

 

The rest of our summer transfer window spiralled from there.

 

I'm sure there was no agent-side coercing there whatsoever

[Dr.Spaceman]

Surely it was a win/win for us either way? Unless of course the release clauses was set at something daft like 10 million. You'd like to think it was at least 40 million.

[bobbydazzla]

As predicted, he’s hardly playing at Chelsea.

 

And the only reason he chose them over us is because we wouldn’t give him the release clause he wanted ?

 

Happy to swerve signing players who think like that

 

 

 

 

Edited October 19 by bobbydazzla

[gbandit]

He started off not playing much but I think he’s almost nailed down a starting spot hasn’t he? He’s looked very good for them in the three matches I’ve watched him play annoyingly. It’ll all go sour probably as I have every confidence that Chelsea will shoot themselves in the cock but it’s extremely annoying that our window fell to pieces because of this 

[Shak]

Seems to have started one game in the league and come on as a sub twice, one of those appearances lasting one minute.

 

Has played all their Conference League games.

[bobbydazzla]

in the 7 league games so far: 
 

1 x 30 mins

1 x 90 mins

1 x 1 mins

 

And it’s claimed we were after him as our priority target and only have 1 x fit CB

 

Even Cautious Eddie would have given him more starts than Chelsea have 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 19 by bobbydazzla

[gbandit]

From what I’ve seen I’d be surprised if he doesn’t nail down a starting spot. He’s a really good player and far less error prone than Badiashile or Disasi. Anyway, don’t care anymore as there’s nothing that can be done now 

[Geordie Ahmed]

Fofana and Colwill are first choice CB's but he's seemingly next in line, so if one is injured/suspended he'll start

 

 

[dcmk]

1 hour ago, bobbydazzla said:

As predicted, he’s hardly playing at Chelsea.

 

And the only reason he chose them over us is because we wouldn’t give him the release clause he wanted ?

 

Happy to swerve signing players who think like that

 

 

 

 

 

Would imagine the location as well being a huge factor.

[ExiledGeordie]

1 hour ago, gbandit said:

He started off not playing much but I think he’s almost nailed down a starting spot hasn’t he? He’s looked very good for them in the three matches I’ve watched him play annoyingly. It’ll all go sour probably as I have every confidence that Chelsea will shoot themselves in the cock but it’s extremely annoying that our window fell to pieces because of this 

He’s already settled in London too though isn’t he, that probably came into it. Agree that everything went south when we couldn’t complete this deal especially as it seemed nailed on at one point.

[healthyaddiction]

17 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said:

Fofana and Colwill are first choice CB's but he's seemingly next in line, so if one is injured/suspended he'll start

 

 

And let's be honest, Fofana will be injured soon.

[bobbydazzla]

16 minutes ago, dcmk said:

Would imagine the location as well being a huge factor.

Aye, totally. I said at the time that from a personal point of view the Chelsea move was ideal for him but from a footballing perspective it was a poor choice. 
 

But Downie’s article that’s mentioned above claims it was the release clause that put Chelsea ahead of us 

[JigsawGoesToPieces]

Booked after 6 minutes, clumsy tbh

[The College Dropout]

On 19/10/2024 at 08:44, bobbydazzla said:

Aye, totally. I said at the time that from a personal point of view the Chelsea move was ideal for him but from a footballing perspective it was a poor choice. 
 

But Downie’s article that’s mentioned above claims it was the release clause that put Chelsea ahead of us 

Even footballing it makes sense for him.  The 2 players ahead of him are injury prone. And Chelsea would expect to qualify for Europe every season and go deep.  3rd choice CBs at successful clubs tend to play a lot.  
 

The biggest risk was the Chelsea project combusting. 

[OCOCOL]

On 19/10/2024 at 08:24, dcmk said:

Would imagine the location as well being a huge factor.

he was brought up in Manchester but you might be right. If I was a footballer I’d think there’s nowhere better to ply your trade than here but I’m biased 

[KaKa]

On 19/10/2024 at 06:55, Dr.Spaceman said:

Surely it was a win/win for us either way? Unless of course the release clauses was set at something daft like 10 million. You'd like to think it was at least 40 million.

 

If we missed out because we refused to add a release clause that was a really poor decision. He was coming in on a free.

 

Like you say it would be a clause of at least £40 million. If he did well enough for someone to come in and meet that and he opted to leave, that would have been pure profit I believe, and would have had us in a strong position to go and spend.

[Kanji]

14 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

If we missed out because we refused to add a release clause that was a really poor decision. He was coming in on a free.

 

Like you say it would be a clause of at least £40 million. If he did well enough for someone to come in and meet that and he opted to leave, that would have been pure profit I believe, and would have had us in a strong position to go and spend.

im sure if it was that simple we’d have done the deal. 

[KaKa]

10 minutes ago, Kanji said:

im sure if it was that simple we’d have done the deal. 

 

Just going off the latest reports that we refused the clause while Chelsea didn't, which seems pretty simple and straightforward a decision.

 

 

Edited October 20 by KaKa

[Kanji]

16 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Just going off the latest reports that we refused the clause while Chelsea didn't, which seems pretty simple and straightforward a decision.

 

 

 

But what were the terms of the clause? 

[KaKa]

4 minutes ago, Kanji said:

But what were the terms of the clause? 

 

Whatever they were, Chelsea agreed and we didn't, and we missed out on what was supposedly a key target to allow us to spend on other areas of the team.

 

He was coming in on a free. I don't see the downside in agreeing to the clause.

[Kanji]

3 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Whatever they were, Chelsea agreed and we didn't, and we missed out on what was supposedly a key target to allow us to spend on other areas of the team.

 

He was coming in on a free. I don't see the downside in agreeing to the clause.

Well you don’t know the terms. And you know Chelsea are aggressive. So no, you don’t agree to anything and everything if it doesn’t make sense. Just because free does not mean there’s no downside. It’s overly simplistic to suggest that and you know it. 

[KaKa]

Just now, Kanji said:

Well you don’t know the terms. And you know Chelsea are aggressive. So no, you don’t agree to anything and everything if it doesn’t make sense. Just because free does not mean there’s no downside. It’s overly simplistic to suggest that and you know it. 

 

But you don't know the terms either.

 

What kind of release clause could he realistically have been requesting that would be a non starter?

 

Concessions have to be made with free transfers to some extent.

 

The risk would have been worth it for the impact it would have had on our ability to spend elsewhere.

[Kanji]

11 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

But you don't know the terms either.

 

What kind of release clause could he realistically have been requesting that would be a non starter?

 

Concessions have to be made with free transfers to some extent.

 

The risk would have been worth it for the impact it would have had on our ability to spend elsewhere.

right so you can’t just keep painting a one sided argument bro. We don’t know why he signed for Chelsea over us.  He does live in London, and Chelsea did offer a deal that met whatever he wanted to stay in London. He did have to relocate his family. So maybe there’s that? Why can’t anyone simply accept a high jack? Why is it always someone’s fault?

 

 

Edited October 20 by Kanji

[Fak]

Surely there’s better things to do on a Sunday night than argue about missing out on a freebie from Fulham 3 months ago. 

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

30 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Whatever they were, Chelsea agreed and we didn't, and we missed out on what was supposedly a key target to allow us to spend on other areas of the team.

 

He was coming in on a free. I don't see the downside in agreeing to the clause.

But you don’t know what the clause was?