David Edgar Posted Monday at 21:55 Share Posted Monday at 21:55 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Monday at 22:01 Share Posted Monday at 22:01 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Agreed, but it doesn't seem any less bonkers to me. I'm a child of the '90s, ultimately - top Serie A clubs picking up unwanted PL defenders for decent money just seems crazy to me. Didn't sound like he was 'unwanted' by the manager. If anything he was the one pushing to leave. With all the information you can gather on players nowadays, I'm pretty sure they'll have good reason for targeting him. A number of decent teams were interested in the summer. He came here largely because of his previous relationship with Howe. Was clearly expecting a bigger role, but it didn't work out that way, and so he's moved on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted Monday at 22:01 Share Posted Monday at 22:01 Fuckin' 'ell. "Fine, welcome Lloyd please do well here, I really wish you didn't come and stayed at home but now you're here, please play your half cast heart out and even though your shit, we believe you can do a good enough job to earn your ticket back to the premier league, the only league your friends and family have heard of." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted Monday at 22:16 Share Posted Monday at 22:16 Grim. I haven't heard that phrase since I was a bairn. I hope he smashes it, nasty the way they're talking about him before he's barely even had a touch of a football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted Monday at 22:18 Share Posted Monday at 22:18 Kelly only played 301 minutes for us, and we just sold him for a £20m profit, incredible business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted Monday at 22:21 Share Posted Monday at 22:21 2 minutes ago, 54 said: Kelly only played 301 minutes for us, and we just sold him for a £20m profit, incredible business. PSR champions.......gerrin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto2005 Posted Monday at 22:24 Share Posted Monday at 22:24 What does an "option to buy" actually mean? Does it just mean they get first chance to make an offer for the player something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Monday at 22:41 Share Posted Monday at 22:41 21 minutes ago, 54 said: Kelly only played 301 minutes for us, and we just sold him for a £20m profit, incredible business. It would be interesting to see what the profit turns out to be, given that his signing on fee would be spread over his contract and would be likely to be paid in full when he leaves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Monday at 22:42 Share Posted Monday at 22:42 17 minutes ago, Alberto2005 said: What does an "option to buy" actually mean? Does it just mean they get first chance to make an offer for the player something? Usually an agreement to buy at an agreed price (so if a player smashes it the selling club can’t raise the price) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted Monday at 23:18 Share Posted Monday at 23:18 36 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: It would be interesting to see what the profit turns out to be, given that his signing on fee would be spread over his contract and would be likely to be paid in full when he leaves Crazy how many people think free transfers are free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted Monday at 23:20 Share Posted Monday at 23:20 English defenders tend to do well in Italy. Pace of the football is a lot slower Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted Monday at 23:20 Share Posted Monday at 23:20 Just now, duo said: English defenders tend to do well in Italy. Pace of the football is a lot slower Woodgate at Real? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted Monday at 23:22 Share Posted Monday at 23:22 Just now, Miercoles said: Crazy how many people think free transfers are free. I don't think anyone does, but I doubt he'll be getting the full whack when he's leaving after 6 months. His much discussed wage was likely so high because the signing on bonus was spread over his full contract. If it is structured like this then I don't know what the would mean in terms of PSR profit though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted Monday at 23:27 Share Posted Monday at 23:27 4 minutes ago, Fak said: Woodgate at Real? Was thinking Fikayo Tomori and Ashley Young both won titles in Italy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted Monday at 23:32 Share Posted Monday at 23:32 Who else fairly shite can we get on a free and flip for a few bob? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted Monday at 23:34 Share Posted Monday at 23:34 13 minutes ago, duo said: English defenders tend to do well in Italy. Pace of the football is a lot slower Des Walker came back from one season in Italy and the slower pace a gibbering wreck of the footballer he was prior Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Monday at 23:45 Share Posted Monday at 23:45 17 minutes ago, duo said: Was thinking Fikayo Tomori and Ashley Young both won titles in Italy Young was a title-winning player at Man Utd and Tomori was a fair bit younger and had been capped by England Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted Monday at 23:52 Share Posted Monday at 23:52 27 minutes ago, duo said: English defenders tend to do well in Italy. Pace of the football is a lot slower Not going to see a bunch of high pressing and high lines that leave your defenders in far more vulnerable positions. Like you said too teams don't play at a high pace or tempo and as direct. Teams are more compact and the defenders get a lot more protection. Not surprising that defenders coming from the Premier League would find it easier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted yesterday at 05:53 Share Posted yesterday at 05:53 Still trying to work this one out. I mean it makes a lot of sense on the face of it, free ffp space who doesn't that? The other side of the coin does require more consideration though. Our age profiles in defence plus contract lengths are concerning. We desperately need attackers but we have what is a ticking time bomb defensively given the ages we have back there. Regardless of that. I wish him the best and hope he shows his ability with Juve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TK-421 Posted yesterday at 06:50 Share Posted yesterday at 06:50 PL and the red cartel will be looking at emergency tweaks to the rules so we can't buy free transfers and flip them for pure PSR profit in future! Anyway, good luck to the lad. Didn't see enough of him to really have much of an opinion of him. Dodgy West Ham performance apart, would he have benefitted from more game time to settle? We'll probably never know. But it's a no-brainer of a deal for me, for a squad player, really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted yesterday at 07:07 Share Posted yesterday at 07:07 7 hours ago, duo said: Was thinking Fikayo Tomori and Ashley Young both won titles in Italy Tbf, Danny Simpson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted yesterday at 08:53 Share Posted yesterday at 08:53 2 hours ago, r0cafella said: Still trying to work this one out. I mean it makes a lot of sense on the face of it, free ffp space who doesn't that? The other side of the coin does require more consideration though. Our age profiles in defence plus contract lengths are concerning. We desperately need attackers but we have what is a ticking time bomb defensively given the ages we have back there. Regardless of that. I wish him the best and hope he shows his ability with Juve. Botman, Hall and Livramento say hi. If we get a youngish right sided centre back then we will be very well set. Selling Lloyd Kelly for £20m is good business even without PSR nonsense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted yesterday at 08:54 Share Posted yesterday at 08:54 Just now, simonsays said: Botman, Hall and Livramento say hi. If we get a youngish right sided centre back then we will be very well set. Selling Lloyd Kelly for £20m is good business even without PSR nonsense. That's 3. Let's talk about the rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simonsays Posted yesterday at 08:57 Share Posted yesterday at 08:57 1 minute ago, r0cafella said: That's 3. Let's talk about the rest. It's three of our first choice back 4. I don't really have an issue with having experienced backup in defence - I'd be more worried if our entire squad was made up of 20 year olds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted yesterday at 09:03 Share Posted yesterday at 09:03 5 minutes ago, simonsays said: It's three of our first choice back 4. I don't really have an issue with having experienced backup in defence - I'd be more worried if our entire squad was made up of 20 year olds Yeah they maybe but within the next two years we need the following a right back, a left back 3 centre backs and a keeper. Good luck to us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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