Checko Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 (edited) 2 minutes ago, dilligaf said: Ive watched a lot of Valencia this year and cant say Ive noticed any particular weakness to his game, I would say hes a def upgrade on Pope now, let alone what he could potentially become. No brainer imo That's good to hear, you can tell pretty quick from watching an actual game whether a keeper's comfortable with the ball at his feet. Edited May 24 by Checko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 I'm not sure the playing out from the back is as much of a priority as we may have thought. I think the priorities are shot stopping, dealing with/claiming the ball from crosses/set pieces and then getting out to deal with balls in behind the defensive line to cover for our high line when pressing. Think our play out from the back will largely be as it is, which is pretty risk adverse and more direct when needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 (edited) I wonder if Pope stepped up his footwork practice during his long lay off and it made absolutely no fucking difference so this is the outcome Edited May 24 by Holloway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Can only be down to doubts about Popes shoulder, that £35m would be much better spent on a RW or Wilson replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emotic Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 "That's a heavy touch....!" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 17 minutes ago, dilligaf said: Ive watched a lot of Valencia this year and cant say Ive noticed any particular weakness to his game, I would say hes a def upgrade on Pope now, let alone what he could potentially become. No brainer imo Do you think long clearances from the goalie is just part of their tactics? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Can’t wait for the “big vili” crack when he joins, will down a treat here, the most homo-erotic of the NUFC forums Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 By the way if your instructions are 'not to pass it out from the back' then your pass completion is going to be shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 44 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I heard Harry Palmer stopped after slipping on a pie in the East Stand. Saw him a couple of times in Idols I knew him quite well’ his sister is/was married to one of my mates. He did have mental health issues back in the day, canny lad though, not seen him in years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 28 minutes ago, KaKa said: I'm not sure the playing out from the back is as much of a priority as we may have thought. I think the priorities are shot stopping, dealing with/claiming the ball from crosses/set pieces and then getting out to deal with balls in behind the defensive line to cover for our high line when pressing. Think our play out from the back will largely be as it is, which is pretty risk adverse and more direct when needed. That's true, but it would make life a helluva lot easier for us too if we had a keeper at least comfortable kicking the ball. They don't have to be brilliant at it, just comfortable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitude20 Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Beth said: Can only be down to doubts about Popes shoulder, that £35m would be much better spent on a RW or Wilson replacement. I was thinking the same. Pope is still prone to another shoulder injury, and that would be the only reason why we would spend that much on a goalkeeper at this time. Edited May 24 by Solitude20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 7 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: That's true, but it would make life a helluva lot easier for us too if we had a keeper at least comfortable kicking the ball. They don't have to be brilliant at it, just comfortable. I agree. Be surprised if he isn't better than Pope at least a little bit, as Pope can be pretty poor. Popes body shape and everything, just looks completely wrong when kicking the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leemond Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 This is the transfer I am most hopeful we can pull off, honestly think our GK's are woeful and cost us so many points. RW and GK are the areas I hope we can strengthen significantly this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 6 minutes ago, Leemond said: This is the transfer I am most hopeful we can pull off, honestly think our GK's are woeful and cost us so many points. RW and GK are the areas I hope we can strengthen significantly this summer. Think that's really harsh on Pope. If he could kick a football he'd be one of the very best on the planet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Yeah I'm honestly still not sure if we'd even be looking at a big 'keeper signing yet were it not for fears over Pope's shoulder. I dare say he's saved us a ton more points and games than he's lost us in the 18 months we've enjoyed him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 3 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Think that's really harsh on Pope. If he could kick a football he'd be one of the very best on the planet. But we did learn Dubs, who served the club very well for many years, is not at the standard needed - so another GK is required. The decision is do you go for a backup or a starter. If there’s EC football then there’s enough games for two, one league starter (for me Pope starts first game of season) and one cup specialist and either this guy proves good enough to dislodge Pope next season or is an upgraded backup until he is ready. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 5 minutes ago, WilliamPS said: But we did learn Dubs, who served the club very well for many years, is not at the standard needed - so another GK is required. The decision is do you go for a backup or a starter. If there’s EC football then there’s enough games for two, one league starter (for me Pope starts first game of season) and one cup specialist and either this guy proves good enough to dislodge Pope next season or is an upgraded backup until he is ready. You don't spend £35m on a back up keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 What would be interesting, is how Pope reacts to us signing a shiny new keeper. Whether we like it or not, Pope becomes expendable. Not because he's a bad keeper but because he still holds financial value. If a reasonable offer came in and Pope was offered number 1 elsewhere, it's hard to see how that deal wouldn't happen. We would be in a position where we needed to find a number 2.... presumably late on in the window. Not sure an overhaul of our goalkeeping department was something I expected this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Pope wouldn't settle for being a number 2 and if Ipswich came in for him (the team he supports) it would be a great move for him and them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 10 minutes ago, Beth said: You don't spend £35m on a back up keeper. You don't spend £40m on a backup right back, except we did. You don't spent £35m on a backup left back, except we did. We've proven we're happy to spend big on the right player even if it's with one eye towards the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slim Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 Should be able to get at least 15 - 20 million for Pope? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 3 minutes ago, LiquidAK said: You don't spend £40m on a backup right back, except we did. You don't spent £35m on a backup left back, except we did. We've proven we're happy to spend big on the right player even if it's with one eye towards the future. We were paying for potential there. This keeper is already one of the best in La Liga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 4 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: We were paying for potential there. This keeper is already one of the best in La Liga. Even better then. Wouldn't be surprised if he was being brought into compete with Pope rather than immediately replace him though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 12 minutes ago, STM said: What would be interesting, is how Pope reacts to us signing a shiny new keeper. Whether we like it or not, Pope becomes expendable. Not because he's a bad keeper but because he still holds financial value. If a reasonable offer came in and Pope was offered number 1 elsewhere, it's hard to see how that deal wouldn't happen. We would be in a position where we needed to find a number 2.... presumably late on in the window. Not sure an overhaul of our goalkeeping department was something I expected this summer. Howe rubbished reports of him being unsettled or expendable after the match today, for what it's worth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted May 24 Share Posted May 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said: By the way if your instructions are 'not to pass it out from the back' then your pass completion is going to be shit. Absolutely, but I'm sure there are more than 7% of goalkeepers who gets different instructions than pass it out from the back also. That percentage is VERY low regardless. But, it depends on other things aswell, like not having a target man and stuff like that. Edited May 24 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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