huss9 Posted Monday at 22:35 Share Posted Monday at 22:35 kane said the likes of lineker have a "responsibility" to be supportive of the team. i honestly think the whole squad and their manager think they havent been as bad as the public think, and have done alright. its unbelievable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted Monday at 22:46 Share Posted Monday at 22:46 8 minutes ago, huss9 said: kane said the likes of lineker have a "responsibility" to be supportive of the team. i honestly think the whole squad and their manager think they havent been as bad as the public think, and have done alright. its unbelievable. He didn’t. He says it be helpful if they were supportive. The responsibility was in regards to highlighting that players and fans do look up to them what they say. Thought he quite cleverly separated the issues personally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzy Posted Tuesday at 01:32 Share Posted Tuesday at 01:32 2 hours ago, huss9 said: kane said the likes of lineker have a "responsibility" to be supportive of the team. i honestly think the whole squad and their manager think they havent been as bad as the public think, and have done alright. its unbelievable. What they say in public and what they say in private will always be two very different things when asked questions about their performance. Especially when they haven't actually lost a game and have already qualified from the group. They clearly know it's not been perfect, from Southgates comments post match you can tell he knows it's not going to plan. But I'd be hugely surprised if he actually makes any sweeping changes to tactics that he's no doubt been working on since the 2022 World Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted Tuesday at 07:08 Share Posted Tuesday at 07:08 So sounds like Gallagher in for Trent, no other changes. Exciting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted Tuesday at 07:17 Share Posted Tuesday at 07:17 It is an improvement but it does nothing to solve the fact we are only attacking off one wing, making us extremely easy to set up against Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDT Posted Tuesday at 07:45 Share Posted Tuesday at 07:45 (edited) With a bit of luck Gallagher will pick up another yellow and be suspended for the round of 16 game, the only change of him coming in for TAA is exactly what I thought Southgate would do. Gallagher is the most limited technically of the other 2 CM options (Mainoo & Wharton) but Southgate will love that he runs around a bit. I'm not sure where Southgate goes from here after the tournament ends, if he's not good enough to have a decent technical set up with a few months worth of notice how would he manage having to set up a team up twice a week for the best part of 10 months. I don't think he can be a club manager. Edited Tuesday at 07:48 by KDT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted Tuesday at 07:49 Share Posted Tuesday at 07:49 3 minutes ago, KDT said: With a bit of luck Gallagher will pick up another yellow and be suspended for the round of 16 game, the only change of him coming in for TAA is exactly what I thought Southgate would do. Gallagher is the most limited technically of the other 2 CM options (Mainoo & Wharton) but Southgate will love that he runs around a bit. I'm not sure where Southgate goes from here after the tournament ends, if he's not good enough to have a decent technical set up with a few months worth of notice how would he manage having to set up a team up twice a week for the best part of 10 months. Trent back in next game then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted Tuesday at 08:26 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:26 No real gripe with Gallagher coming into the side. I like his tenacity and Trent obviously has to be removed. There's nothing left to argue in favour of persisting with that experiment. However, seeing as we're through and we're not facing a particularly strong opponent, there are few risks associated with trying one more time to see if the team can finally start gelling with Foden on the left. If there isn't a significant improvement to the team's performance then it really, really, really needs to be jettisoned. If there was anything major to play for going into this game I'd say it should be binned immediately, but there isn't. I don't have high hopes, like, but when Southgate has stuck to his guns in the past (picking Sterling, not dropping Kane in Euro 2020), he has been totally vindicated. So am prepared to give him that grace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted Tuesday at 09:22 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:22 I'd expect to see a bit of a reaction in the Slovenia game, a bit disappointing he's only swapped in Gallagher rather than experimenting a bit more, but there you go. In isolation, it's not a bad change - at least Gallagher is playing a more familiar role and not out of position. Gordon could help him hugely but that's been said before, and better. Maybe he'll get a run in the second half. Wouldn't be surprised if England top the group easily and get through the next couple of rounds. Then, the talk will be about just having needed time to get the team to gel, coming good at the right time, the important thing being qualification etc. That's all true, and I've criticised Southgate for some things in the past without giving him credit for all the good things he has definitely done, so I don't want to be too critical. Like many, I'm just not convinced about his selections, his tactics or his ability to influence a game enough to think he's the manager to win a tournament. I think it will need a captain style player to step up and drive the team on when it gets tough. Been a bit disappointed in Rice so far to be honest - given how he plays in the league I thought he might be that player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted Tuesday at 10:21 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:21 55 minutes ago, Abacus said: I'd expect to see a bit of a reaction in the Slovenia game, a bit disappointing he's only swapped in Gallagher rather than experimenting a bit more, but there you go. In isolation, it's not a bad change - at least Gallagher is playing a more familiar role and not out of position. Gordon could help him hugely but that's been said before, and better. Maybe he'll get a run in the second half. Wouldn't be surprised if England top the group easily and get through the next couple of rounds. Then, the talk will be about just having needed time to get the team to gel, coming good at the right time, the important thing being qualification etc. That's all true, and I've criticised Southgate for some things in the past without giving him credit for all the good things he has definitely done, so I don't want to be too critical. Like many, I'm just not convinced about his selections, his tactics or his ability to influence a game enough to think he's the manager to win a tournament. I think it will need a captain style player to step up and drive the team on when it gets tough. Been a bit disappointed in Rice so far to be honest - given how he plays in the league I thought he might be that player. still blame him for the italy loss in the last final. if we'd have gone for it and lost then it would have just been tough luck and "glorious failure" like in 86, 90, 96, 98. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted Tuesday at 11:02 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:02 So it will be: Pickford Walker Stones Guehi Tripps Gallagher Rice Saka Bellingham Foden Kane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted Tuesday at 12:28 Share Posted Tuesday at 12:28 Maybe the plan is to play the dream team (Gordon 11, Foden 10, Kane 9, Bell 8, Rice 6) in the Ko’s with fresh legs 🤷🏼♂️ 😆 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus Posted Tuesday at 13:13 Share Posted Tuesday at 13:13 2 hours ago, Magpie said: So it will be: Pickford Walker Stones Guehi Tripps Gallagher Rice Saka Bellingham Foden Kane Not sure if the gaping chasm on the left was deliberate or not but looks about right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted Tuesday at 13:15 Share Posted Tuesday at 13:15 If we don’t dominate this match tonight it’s going to get very toxic, especially if it’s a draw or a loss. Cannot be fucked with watching another rubbish match Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted Tuesday at 13:20 Share Posted Tuesday at 13:20 lose lose tonight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted Tuesday at 13:33 Share Posted Tuesday at 13:33 12 minutes ago, huss9 said: lose lose tonight The only scenario that doesn’t result in a toxic atmosphere and responses is a very convincing win where we control the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted Tuesday at 13:41 Share Posted Tuesday at 13:41 28 minutes ago, Klaus said: Not sure if the gaping chasm on the left was deliberate or not but looks about right Oh it very much was 😜 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relámpago blanco Posted Tuesday at 14:21 Share Posted Tuesday at 14:21 47 minutes ago, gbandit said: The only scenario that doesn’t result in a toxic atmosphere and responses is a very convincing win where we control the game Only scenario I am happy is if we completely change our approach. Press more, higher tempo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted Tuesday at 15:19 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:19 57 minutes ago, relámpago blanco said: Only scenario I am happy is if we completely change our approach. Press more, higher tempo. Kane not dropping back to LB would be canny too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted Tuesday at 15:37 Share Posted Tuesday at 15:37 16 minutes ago, Jaqen said: Kane not dropping back to LB would be canny too. The problem Kane has, if he doesn't drop back he'll end up touching the ball about twice. It's not like we've found a way to get the ball to him otherwise is it. If only we had a left winger available who could use his ridiculous pace to stretch the game and give Kane space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted Tuesday at 17:14 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:14 Kane drops deep to collect the ball, we've got no runners behind, Kane stays up top to threaten their goal, he's got no service on the wings through lack of width... Southgate: If I swap Trent out for Gallagher that'll solve all our problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likelylad Posted Tuesday at 17:17 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:17 1 minute ago, Mattoon said: Kane drops deep to collect the ball, we've got no runners behind, Kane stays up top to threaten their goal, he's got no service on the wings through lack of width... Southgate: If I swap Trent out for Gallagher that'll solve all our problems. It's madness really. Stubbornness, arrogance or maybe a bit of both. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted Tuesday at 17:19 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:19 Just now, Likelylad said: It's madness really. Stubbornness, arrogance or maybe a bit of both. It's got to be willful ignorance at this point, there's no way the whole of the country, pundits included, can see what needs to change and he doesn't, has to be some kind of self sabotage for pride. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted Tuesday at 17:33 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:33 I think he has shown stubbornness throughout his tenure. Be it Maguire, Henderson or Phillips when the public and press have turned on them Or Foden, Grealish, Gordon or another player in form being asked to play in the team. But maybe it's due to the ridicule he got after missing the penalty in 1996? https://youtu.be/-SSFwUY6BA0?si=A09-QoFGiXSYtWZS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted Tuesday at 17:55 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:55 The draw on England's side is looking so good now. Going to make limping out in the QF even more annoying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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