KaKa Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 2 minutes ago, Ikon said: Gordon has always been much better in general play. Even if not a genuinely creative/flair type of player. Yeah, I would agree. That's why I said a similar profile. Speed, work rate, runs in behind and ball carrying would be the traits they share. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Elanga’s chant to rhythm is a dancer in the strawberry corner would also make this worthwhile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: This is just PSR crap. If not for PSR we wouldn’t want DCL or Elanga. But we are in a ‘well scratch your back if you scratch mine’ situation with a small group of clubs. Looking to trade players of similar value and picking the best of a bad bunch. Thats why I’m ok with Elanga as long as we don’t waste too much money and he comes in to be a backup player mainly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 (edited) 16 minutes ago, gbandit said: The fuck is gannin on. Every time I open a thread it’s a different swap deal I see Desperation. How’s it come to this? I don’t mind losing Anderson if it gets us in the clear with PSR. However if Elanga is the first choice winger then it’s just really shit. He probably wasn’t even in our top 5 or 6 targets but to get Anderson to Forest and in the clear with PSR it’s like he’ll go Edited June 29 by gdm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 1 minute ago, Ikon said: Thats why I’m ok with Elanga as long as we don’t waste too much money and he comes in to be a backup player mainly. I think any swap deal we do would be for a backup player. We don’t have saleable assets at 40/50m that we want to sell. I like Murillo but we don’t have anyone to trade him for at a similarish price point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Elanga and Eliot Anderson both use the same mega-agent. They have many players on their books, including Nick Pope. https://www.transfermarkt.com/caa-stellar/beraterfirma/berater/190 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Just now, Stottie said: Elanga and Eliot Anderson both use the same mega-agent. They have many players on their books, including Nick Pope. https://www.transfermarkt.com/caa-stellar/beraterfirma/berater/190 Makes quick deal easier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Well at least Elanga and Isak are used to playing together for Sweden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Won't mind having Elanga as an option on the wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Im fine with losing Anderson and Elanga in, but if this is our starting RW its worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 (edited) Hopefully all this is our way of improving financially before we go for the more ambitious targets that improve us properly. Lay the foundations now to see what is possible to do financially further ahead. (Apart from the “deadline” alone) Edited June 29 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 6 minutes ago, gdm said: Desperation. How’s it come to this? I don’t mind losing Anderson if it gets us in the clear with PSR. However if Elanga is the first choice winger then it’s just really shit. He probably wasn’t even in our top 5 or 6 targets but to get Anderson to Forest and in the clear with PSR it’s like he’ll go There are so many repeat explanations in these various threads re: how it’s come to this. It’s not desperation to be selling squad players / unknown quantity players to make money. Desperation would be being forced to sell multiple big name starters in order to survive or to avoid a big points deduction. At worst this is frustrating and bemusing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Think this is a good deal , not convinced by what I have seen from Anderson so far that he is going to be good enough for a club that want to be challenging for the top 4. Sorts our FFP issues out without having to lose someone who I would class as a key player . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 (edited) I wonder how much extra we would have to pay for Elanga. Probably not too much extra/year depending on how we view it for PSR reasons. Don’t see Anderson being worth near as much. Edited June 29 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiemag Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 3 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: Think this is a good deal , not convinced by what I have seen from Anderson so far that he is going to be good enough for a club that want to be challenging for the top 4. Sorts our FFP issues out without having to lose someone who I would class as a key player . I think Anderson will become a solid/good PL box to box midfielder. All the ingredients are there. Also as homegrown we would need him for any future European campaigns. Would rather sell Longstaff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 2 minutes ago, Theregulars said: There are so many repeat explanations in these various threads re: how it’s come to this. It’s not desperation to be selling squad players / unknown quantity players to make money. Desperation would be being forced to sell multiple big name starters in order to survive or to avoid a big points deduction. At worst this is frustrating and bemusing. There's a clear split among posters in the thinking regarding all of this. Once the window closes and the games start, then we'll see what side things fall on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Just now, aussiemag said: I think Anderson will become a solid/good PL box to box midfielder. All the ingredients are there. Also as homegrown we would need him for any future European campaigns. Would rather sell Longstaff. I would rather sell Longstaff as well but understandably nobody seems to want him . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 Can we value Anderson at 30M and Forest Elanga at say 35M and pay the difference in the same as 25M v 30M would work. We’d benefit an extra 5M pure profit on Anderson and FMV aren’t going to argue the toss? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 9 minutes ago, Theregulars said: There are so many repeat explanations in these various threads re: how it’s come to this. It’s not desperation to be selling squad players / unknown quantity players to make money. Desperation would be being forced to sell multiple big name starters in order to survive or to avoid a big points deduction. At worst this is frustrating and bemusing. There is definitely some desperation involved this close to the deadline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Monkey Alan Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 (edited) I've no idea about Elanga but Anderson is a second too slow in everything he does. I wish him well but he won't make waves in the PL as long as his weetabix come out his bullet hole. Edited June 29 by Monkey Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 (edited) They will want something like 40m. +/- 5m or so. Edited June 29 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 9 minutes ago, Ikon said: I wonder how much extra we would have to pay for Elanga. Probably not too much extra/year depending on how we view it for PSR reasons. Don’t see Anderson being worth near as much. A figure of around £20 million I would guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beth Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 I'd be happy with this to be honest. Anderson is never going to be more than Longstaff Mk 2 in my opinion. Elanga was crap at Man U but he's still young and had a decent season at Forest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt1892 Posted June 29 Share Posted June 29 13 minutes ago, Theregulars said: There are so many repeat explanations in these various threads re: how it’s come to this. It’s not desperation to be selling squad players / unknown quantity players to make money. Desperation would be being forced to sell multiple big name starters in order to survive or to avoid a big points deduction. At worst this is frustrating and bemusing. I think the desperation is more to do with with timing regarding FFP, there are likely to be others we would prefer to get rid of before Anderson if we had time on our side to do it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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