Ikon Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Hopefully we can get a decent to good fee for him in the summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 20 minutes ago, Holloway said: That goal still takes my breath away a bit every time I see it, with a bit of help from the commentary. Cup final apart, the only other one that does the same is the Bruno diving header v Leicester That Bruno header still makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end. Crackers what ends up burning into the memory banks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 40 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: That Bruno header still makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end. Crackers what ends up burning into the memory banks Aye same, probably the only time he's looked rapid Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Why do people want him to leave? He's a talent and actually has the tools to be good at everything. How many players in the Premier League can score that goal against Man Utd? Not many. Is it because we didn't sign him from a foreign team for big money, that people are non-plussed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I’d rather keep him and get rid of Wissa, 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) 7 minutes ago, dcmk said: Why do people want him to leave? He's a talent and actually has the tools to be good at everything. How many players in the Premier League can score that goal against Man Utd? Not many. Is it because we didn't sign him from a foreign team for big money, that people are non-plussed. Has fuck all to do with "foreign team and big money". For me it's simply about lack of technical ability, composure and IQ. Still young so every chance that he will improve overall. I just don't ever see him become a top player because he lacks too much technically. Edited April 4 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 minutes ago, Ikon said: Has fuck all to do with "foreign team and big money". For me it's simply about lack of technical ability, composure and IQ. Still young so every chance that he will improve overall. I just don't ever see him become a top player because he lacks too much technically. Couldn't disagree more. His strike on his weaker foot, not many can do that, and was very composed. His dribbling, speed and skill. He's even pretty handy in the air. And he likes to spend extra time on the training pitch working on his game. Very useful and only getting better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola14 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 keep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I would get rid of Wissa before him to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I think we need two strikers in the summer - if we can do that without selling Osula I'd keep him, but if he needs to go to facilitate buying two I'd have to say sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 48 minutes ago, dcmk said: Why do people want him to leave? He's a talent and actually has the tools to be good at everything. How many players in the Premier League can score that goal against Man Utd? Not many. Is it because we didn't sign him from a foreign team for big money, that people are non-plussed. Cos they know ball Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 4 minutes ago, Holloway said: Cos they know ball Looks the opposite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moose Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 If we get Europa/Conference League, I'd be keeping him around. We'll need depth and we're gonna have a huge amount of turnover this summer, keeping some guys who are content not being first pick every week will be useful Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 53 minutes ago, dcmk said: Couldn't disagree more. His strike on his weaker foot, not many can do that, and was very composed. His dribbling, speed and skill. He's even pretty handy in the air. And he likes to spend extra time on the training pitch working on his game. Very useful and only getting better. It’s similar to when some said that Willock’s passing is great because of one or two good assists (especially the one against spurs). I’m talking about his in general play which is everything but composed. He definitely has all the physical attributes, no doubt about that. But let’s not kid ourselves that he is good technically and has good skill. What he has is trickery that comes off occasionally. Not sure how many times I’ve seen him making good runs and receiving the ball only for it to bounce off his shin/knee when he’s trying to bring it with him into the right path/line. I really like the guy though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 minutes ago, Ikon said: It’s similar to when some said that Willock’s passing is great because of one or two good assists (especially the one against spurs). I’m talking about his in general play which is everything but composed. He definitely has all the physical attributes, no doubt about that. But let’s not kid ourselves that he is good technically and has good skill. What he has is trickery that comes off occasionally. Not sure how many times I’ve seen him making good runs and receiving the ball only for it to bounce off his shin/knee when he’s trying to bring it with him into the right path/line. I really like the guy though. He's still raw yeh, but he's been on the pitch for a measly 720 minutes and has 4 goals and one assist. A goal contribution every 0.6 every game. For a 22 year, is impressive. Shouldn't be getting rid in any circumstances imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) 6 minutes ago, dcmk said: He's still raw yeh, but he's been on the pitch for a measly 720 minutes and has 4 goals and one assist. A goal contribution every 0.6 every game. For a 22 year, is impressive. Shouldn't be getting rid in any circumstances imo. I just don’t think he’s good enough to get enough minutes for us next season to develop properly. If he starts many games next season then we are in trouble. Especially when we are likely to sign another striker in the summer. Maybe, just a big maybe he can make it elsewhere if he gets enough minutes for say, a midtable Bundesliga club or similar. We need the money to strengthen properly, and he wouldn’t be a big loss at this very moment considering the rebuild we are likely to do. Edited April 4 by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 5 minutes ago, Ikon said: I just don’t think he’s good enough to get enough minutes for us next season to develop properly. If he starts many games next season then we are in trouble. Especially when we are likely to sign another striker in the summer. Maybe, just a big maybe he can make it elsewhere if he gets enough minutes for say, a midtable Bundesliga club or similar. We need the money to strengthen properly, and he wouldn’t be a big loss at this very moment considering the rebuild we are likely to do. I'm certain people were saying the same about Elliot Anderson and look at him now would walk into our team ahead of Tonali. Would rather sell Woltemade and Wissa personally, as don't think they are ever going work in our team setup and should get more money for those two. But I agree that Osula shouldn't be starting. But he's a very good option to have off the bench, especially with his goal contributions in very few minutes. And his attributes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 minute ago, dcmk said: I'm certain people were saying the same about Elliot Anderson and look at him now would walk into our team ahead of Tonali. Would rather sell Woltemade and Wissa personally, as don't think they are ever going work in our team setup and should get more money for those two. But I agree that Osula shouldn't be starting. But he's a very good option to have off the bench, especially with his goal contributions in very few minutes. And his attributes. Yeah but Elliott has started for Nottingham for almost two seasons now, which has developed him enormously. I don’t think he would have become this good if he had stayed with us as I doubt he would have played even near as many minutes or had the same belief. Never mind the difference when it comes to pressure. Also, a massive difference is that Elliott has always had good technical ability. Wissa (especially) and Woltemade haven’t been great signings so far. But it wouldn’t be very smart to sell them now like Their value as it stands is very very low compared to what we paid for them. Yes we would get more money for them but at the same time we would have to write off a ton of money which isn’t ideal financially. Osula would be good profit. I imagine both Wissa and Woltemade has more to prove, hopefully… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 I'd prefer to see if he can continue to progress here rather than some contribution to the balance sheet. The potential is staring me in the face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 9 hours ago, Ikon said: Yeah but Elliott has started for Nottingham for almost two seasons now, which has developed him enormously. I don’t think he would have become this good if he had stayed with us as I doubt he would have played even near as many minutes or had the same belief. Never mind the difference when it comes to pressure. Also, a massive difference is that Elliott has always had good technical ability. Wissa (especially) and Woltemade haven’t been great signings so far. But it wouldn’t be very smart to sell them now like Their value as it stands is very very low compared to what we paid for them. Yes we would get more money for them but at the same time we would have to write off a ton of money which isn’t ideal financially. Osula would be good profit. I imagine both Wissa and Woltemade has more to prove, hopefully… Financially it’s lose to impossible to sell both Woltemade and Wissa and bring in a new striker this summer. Might as well just replace Howe and get a new head coach Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 10 hours ago, Newcastle Fan said: I would get rid of Wissa before him to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Mover Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 Best RW at the club, play him there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Big chance for him today. He really needs to at least look like a capable central striker, which basically hasn’t happened in any of his PL starts. We’ve seen what he’s capable of as a sub (albeit often from wide), time to do that from the start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 The bar is so low for me with our strikers at the minute, that I just want him to press, win some duels/aerials, hold the ball up, and bring others into play. Not even arsed about him scoring Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Today’s the day…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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