Marc Guehi

[54]

1 minute ago, Jack27 said:

 

Whats wrong with that like? 

[Pixelphish]

There has to be a balance between long term goals and short term progression for a million different reasons. Feels like we've got that balance wrong from the outside looking in.

[Zero]

3 minutes ago, stozo said:

If you can give me five players who are 100% going to be better than Schär and Botman, are under 26, available for under <£70m and willing to move to a club with no European football then I’d be impressed. 
 

Point being that the elite CB pool is very thin. And I don’t think it takes a genius to read the tea leaves of the window and work out the Malick Thiaw probably decided he wasn’t willing to come and liked his chances better playing CL football with Milan. 

Simakan, 45m euro.

[Andy]

Just now, Shadow Puppets said:

 

Are there loads of players out there that A) fit the player profile, B) fit the price structure, C) fit the wage structure, D) fit the no dick head policy, and E) are happy to join with no European football?

 

I'm absolutely convinced there are players across the world that fit that profile that are better than some of our starting 11, yeah

[Sean]

1 minute ago, Shadow Puppets said:

 

Are there loads of players out there that A) fit the player profile, B) fit the price structure, C) fit the wage structure, D) fit the no dick head policy, and E) are happy to join with no European football?

Paul Mitchell probably thinks there are like.

 

Eddie Howe doesn't seem to however.

[Shadow Puppets]

5 minutes ago, Jack27 said:

 

He’s absolutely right… and precisely why people on here including myself can’t stand the excessive over the top negativity. When this club and its supporters are aligned, we’re incredible. If we tear them to shreds over a poor transfer window, that just leads to negative vibes, upheaval, abuse on social media (already started)… it achieves nothing and contributes far more to a poor season than the thing people are moaning about.

 

 

Edited August 30, 2024 by Shadow Puppets

[mondonewc]

2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

Because bemoaning PSR and attempting to spend £70m on one defender aren't incompatible but they're about as close as it gets.

Maybe he was referring to the longer term effects, and Howe doesn't think an alternative option who he's less sure on that costs £40-50 million is a risk worth taking when it effects how much we can spend in future windows. 

[Groundhog63]

1 minute ago, Zero said:

if PSR is an issue then we should try to do delayed deals like the Hall one, or simply no bidding right from the beginning

 

It further strengthen the claims that we have limited our targets to the extreme and hence kinda backfired 

 

I can hear the screams now.

 

Why have we signed this kid? Got to pay £40m at the end of the season, ffs? Why's Eddie not playing him? Mustn't fancy him? 

 

Rinse, repeat

[Shadow Puppets]

Just now, Sean said:

Paul Mitchell probably thinks there are like.

 

Eddie Howe doesn't seem to however.

IF, and it’s a big IF, that’s true, is that not simply because Eddie works with them everyday?

 

He knows better than anyone at the club the type of player / characters we need. Do you not think he’s earned that respect and trust?

[jack j]

2 minutes ago, Zero said:

Simakan, 45m euro.

3 right backs seems abit pointless

[Gallowgate Toon]

I just don't think what's happened this window reflects this small pool of elite players stuff. We've been linked to Guehi and Olise, yes, but also been linked to or signed:

• Kelly
• Osula
• Tosin
• Trafford

There's obviously a level of comfort in improving the squad but we suddenly switched to just focusing on 1 player mid-way through the window and decided to stop all focus on a RW as well despite having good cash to play with?

[Yorkie]

5 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

Because bemoaning PSR and attempting to spend £70m on one defender aren't incompatible but they're about as close as it gets.

 

But he's not saying that we can't spend anything, he's saying it's absolutely crucial to spend it right in the era of PSR.

[KaKa]

13 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said:

 

I know not everyone will like what we've done but that seems a sensible and honest response. Hardly a suggestion of an internal power struggle between Mitchell and Howe, either. 

 

It does seem that they may well be in agreement on who they go after i.e. a few they think will be difference makers, and Mitchell is backing Eddie on that.

 

However, I really hope we can evolve past this going forward because it is only slowing down our progress.

 

Could maybe still see this happening once Palace confirm the centre backs they are bringing in.

[Dokko]

4 minutes ago, DahnSahf said:

 

My understanding of what he was saying about PSR was just that it's the reason we daren't make a mistake.

 

We could have bought a £15m defender from Europe on OK wages, and once our top target is secured in the next couple  of windows sell him on. Least that way we're not playing kraft at cb or praying schar doesn't go down injured 24 times a game.

 

It's complete bollocks. Fair play to Eddie for towing the party line and not spitting his dummy, but he must be seething he's saying shit like this.

[Zero]

2 minutes ago, jack j said:

3 right backs seems abit pointless

He is a CB

[Kid Icarus]

2 minutes ago, mondonewc said:

Maybe he was referring to the longer term effects, and Howe doesn't think an alternative option who he's less sure on that costs £40-50 million is a risk worth taking when it effects how much we can spend in future windows. 

 

Honestly, I just can't accept that tbh. I'm sure Guehi represents a big step forward for the starting XI, but by not doing anything we're not only resigning ourselves to not making any step forward at all, but jeopardising the steps forward we've already made. 

 

Even at a basic level it doesn't just seem stubborn, but also a huge 'can't see the wood for the trees' situation in about 3 different ways. I can't believe he would be this daft. 

[stozo]

5 minutes ago, Zero said:

Simakan, 45m euro.

Who is going to Al Nassr and will presumably be paid somewhere north of £250k pw. So a total non-starter. 

[Zero]

The logic doesn’t stand. Ok it is difficult to bring in someone better than the aging Schar. Ok.

 

how about Murphy/Almiron?

[SUPERTOON]

8 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

 

Are there loads of players out there that A) fit the player profile, B) fit the price structure, C) fit the wage structure, D) fit the no dick head policy, and E) are happy to join with no European football?

Maybe not loads, but definitely more than Guehi. Do you genuinely believe there are no other players out there we could have gotten to improve the squad. (At a more reasonable price as well).

[Theregulars]

I have to be honest, I think the club has gaslit fans a bit this summer. Really poor show from all involved. 

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

He’s absolutely right… and precisely why people on here including myself can’t stand the excessive over the top negativity. When this club and its supporters are aligned, we’re incredible. If we tear them to shreds over a poor transfer window, that just leads to negative vibes, upheaval, abuse on social media (already started)… it achieves nothing and contributes far more to a poor season than the thing people are moaning about.

 

 

 

You’re not wrong boss, I completely get it 

 

I’m just tired and wanted us to make a splash

[Kimbo]

I rate Guehi but the idea that our scouts couldn’t find anyone in the world of similar quality and profile is bizarre. If they couldn’t find suitable alternatives then they need sacking off. This guy isn’t Nesta ffs.

 

 

Edited August 30, 2024 by Kimbo

[Lotus]

Yeah, I agree with many on here. Why we haven’t switched approach to finding a young player, only needs to be better than Krafth (at his unfavoured position) and develop them.

Same for RW. Can’t be hard to find players with more potential than Murphy. Develop them, developing players is meant to be the thing EH is best at.

[Kid Icarus]

6 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

But he's not saying that we can't spend anything, he's saying it's absolutely crucial to spend it right in the era of PSR.

 

Yeah and spending it right can't just mean only having one £70m target centre back and all else is a waste of time. I just can't accept that, there's too much countering it for it to be a point that makes any sense. 

 

 

Edited August 30, 2024 by Kid Icarus

[bobbydazzla]

7 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

 

Are there loads of players out there that A) fit the player profile, B) fit the price structure, C) fit the wage structure, D) fit the no dick head policy, and E) are happy to join with no European football?

 

You can add:

 

F) their clubs are willing to sell them

G) they have no other clubs who are courting their signature that might be more attractive to them than NUFC

H) want to come and live in North East England

I) want to join a club that's only in it's 3rd year of trying to re-establish itself after 14 years of malaise