Marc Guehi

[Alberto2005]

Just now, black_n_white said:

Would people be happier to sign Gomez for 40 million or Guehi for 70?

Guehi everyday.

[PauloGeordio]

Just now, black_n_white said:

Would people be happier to sign Gomez for 40 million or Guehi for 70?

Guehi.

[Lush Vlad]

1 minute ago, Zero said:

 

So what is his strength that makes him worth the 70m price tag? Other than “he is talented” “he has potential”, is there something more concrete that makes him one of the best CB in the world?

I didn’t call him one of the best CB’s in the world? What on earth are you talking about?  

 

If you want to use the fee paid/quoted. Then that would be daft. As that would mean Harry Maguire is one of the best  that isn’t how it works. 
 

Saliba, Stones, Dias, VVD, Rudiger, Araujo, Gabriel etc. What would they go for in today’s market. Assuming they had a good few years left at the top level. Particularly the ones in the prem. 

[Zero]

3 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

I didn’t call him one of the best CB’s in the world? What on earth are you talking about?  

 

If you want to use the fee paid/quoted. Then that would be daft. As that would mean Harry Maguire is one of the best  that isn’t how it works. 
 

Saliba, Stones, Dias, VVD, Rudiger, Araujo, Gabriel etc. What would they go for in today’s market. Assuming they had a good few years left at the top level. Particularly the ones in the prem. 

 

So you mean we are going to break our bank for a defender that is not one of the best CB in the world? Seriously?

 

All those you mentioned, except VVD, cost the club way less than Guehi.

 

WTF are we doing here?

 

I was expecting you to really explain what’s his strength and why he can bring us to another level, by replacing Schar or Botman. I didn’t expect the answer is no he isn’t one of the best.

 

 

Edited August 18, 2024 by Zero

[andycap]

I would do an Ashley and stick 50 million on the table and say take it or leave it. 

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

4 minutes ago, Zero said:

 

So you mean we are going to break our bank for a defender that is not one of the best CB in the world? Seriously?

 

All those you mentioned, except VVD, cost the club way less than Guehi.

 

WTF are we doing here?

 

I was expecting you to really explain what’s his strength and why he can bring us to another level, by replacing Schar or Botman. I didn’t expect the answer is no he isn’t one of the best.

 

 

 

They were also signed years ago, you know in a previous world where holding midfielders with one half decent season went for less than £100m. Does it sound totally ridiculous if you think of it as less than 2 Elliot Anderson’s 

[Slim]

Buy Briathwait for 70mil for the crack 

[Shadow Puppets]

4 minutes ago, Zero said:

 

So you mean we are going to break our bank for a defender that is not one of the best CB in the world? Seriously?

 

All those you mentioned, except VVD, cost the club way less than Guehi.

 

WTF are we doing here?

 

I was expecting you to really explain what’s his strength and why he can bring us to another level, by replacing Schar or Botman. I didn’t expect the answer is no he isn’t one of the best.

 

 

 

Out of curiosity, which “best CB in the world” do you envisage us being able to attract?

[Bunk Moreland]

17 minutes ago, black_n_white said:

Would people be happier to sign Gomez for 40 million or Guehi for 70?

 

Some people would be happier because they're only capable of experiencing joy if their piss is boiling

[duo]

Go back in for Thiaw

[jack j]

1 minute ago, duo said:

Go back in for Thiaw

Guehi has just played like peak Canavaro compared to Thiaws performance last night

[Lush Vlad]

18 minutes ago, Zero said:

 

So you mean we are going to break our bank for a defender that is not one of the best CB in the world? Seriously?

 

All those you mentioned, except VVD, cost the club way less than Guehi.

 

WTF are we doing here?

 

I was expecting you to really explain what’s his strength and why he can bring us to another level, by replacing Schar or Botman. I didn’t expect the answer is no he isn’t one of the best.

 

 

 

Ok. From whenever I’ve seen him. He’s quick, very strong and aggressive into the tackle, extremely comfortable on the ball, great recovery pace for either his error or another player’s and ability to sweep. I also think he will continue to improve as a player. As he is 24 and has his peak years ahead of him at the position. So that needs to be factored in. 
 

Not good today and

not great in the air, I don’t think anyone is disputing that. 
 

Try and read posts properly next time. I said ‘in today’s market’. Why are you comparing past transfer fees from years gone by and ignoring inflation and the fact players go for more and more every single season. 
 

I suppose Enzo Fernandez and Caicedo are the best centre mids in the world as they cost £120m apiece?

 

 

Edited August 18, 2024 by Lush Vlad

[Toon1892]

Yeah Thiaw isn’t the answer. My Milan colleagues think he’s atrocious and are desperate for him to be sold…

[Menace]

4 minutes ago, duo said:

Go back in for Thiaw

 

He's poor

[Toon1892]

1 minute ago, Lush Vlad said:

Ok. From whenever I’ve seen him. He’s quick, very strong and aggressive into the tackle, extremely comfortable on the ball, great recovery pace. Not good today, I don’t think anyone is disputing that. 
 

Try and read posts properly next time. I said ‘in today’s market’. Why are you comparing past transfer fees from years gone by and ignoring inflation and the fact players go for more and more every single season. 
 

I suppose Enzo Fernandez and Caicedo are the best centre mids in the world as they cost £120m apiece?

I think you’re missing the point.

 

The guys point is if you’re paying best player in the world money. The player you’re signing should be one of the best players in the world.

 

He isn’t saying the biggest transfer fees in the world are the best players in the world. If anything you’re proving his point at how many high transfer fee failures there have been.

 

He’s terrible in the air, can’t show a player down the wing and easily switches off. I’d avoid.

[Lush Vlad]

1 minute ago, Toon1892 said:

I think you’re missing the point.

 

The guys point is if you’re paying best player in the world money. The player you’re signing should be one of the best players in the world.

 

He isn’t saying the biggest transfer fees in the world are the best players in the world. If anything you’re proving his point at how many high transfer fee failures there have been.

 

He’s terrible in the air, can’t show a player down the wing and easily switches off. I’d avoid.

You. Are. Not. Paying. Best. Player. In. The. World. Money. 
 

So no. I’m not missing the point. 
 

Did you figure that last point out of today’s game. Or has this inability to show someone down the line always been a worry of yours  

 

 

Edited August 18, 2024 by Lush Vlad

[Toon1892]

Just now, Lush Vlad said:

You. Are. Not. Paying. Best. Player. In. The. World. Money. 
 

So no. I’m not missing the point. 

How many CB’s have been sold for more than £70M?

[Slim]

Think Kraft has shown we don't need annother CB

[Zero]

10 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Out of curiosity, which “best CB in the world” do you envisage us being able to attract?

how about just find other prospects that could become one of the best CB in a few years, like Botman, like what the other club did? Saliba just cost 27m FFS

 

I really can’t get over it. I don’t expect you to say “ah no we can’t attract one of the best CB in the world, so just spend 70m+, breaking our record, on a defender that looks good”

 

It’s 70m pounds FFS. We aren’t Man City. In fact even Man City’s CB didn’t cost that much. Dias, the most expensive one, cost 71m euro. 

[B-more Mag]

 Kind of hope this drags out to deadline day so we can see just exactly how insane people will go. 

[Ghandis Flip-Flop]

2 minutes ago, Toon1892 said:

I think you’re missing the point.

 

The guys point is if you’re paying best player in the world money. The player you’re signing should be one of the best players in the world.

 

He isn’t saying the biggest transfer fees in the world are the best players in the world. If anything you’re proving his point at how many high transfer fee failures there have been.

 

He’s terrible in the air, can’t show a player down the wing and easily switches off. I’d avoid.

It’s not best centre half in the world money though, it’s less than Maguire went for years ago, it’s less than Chelsea paid Leicester for Wesley Fofana again several years ago, ffs Man Utd have paid similar money for an 18 year old centre half with very limited games this very season

[Lush Vlad]

3 minutes ago, Toon1892 said:

How many CB’s have been sold for more than £70M?

No idea. Maguire and VVD off the top of my head. Do we actually know we are spending £70m, anyway?
 

What would the best CB’s in world football be worth? 
 

Also. Transfer fees get inflated every single season. Should the question not be what would previous fees be today, adjusted for inflation/today’s market? 
 

I’d imagine there would be a reasonably long list. 

[PauloGeordio]

2 minutes ago, Zero said:

how about just find other prospects that could become one of the best CB in a few years, like Botman, like what the other club did? Saliba just cost 27m FFS

 

I really can’t get over it. I don’t expect you to say “ah no we can’t attract one of the best CB in the world, so just spend 70m+, breaking our record, on a defender that looks good”

 

It’s 70m pounds FFS. We aren’t Man City. In fact even Man City’s CB didn’t cost that much. Dias, the most expensive one, cost 71m euro. 

We’re fucking massive. Just enjoy it.

[Toon1892]

2 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said:

No idea. Maguire and VVD off the top of my head. Do we actually know we are spending £70m, anyway?
 

What would the best CB’s in world football be worth? 
 

Also. Transfer fees get inflated every single season. Should the question not be what would previous fees be today, adjusted for inflation/today’s market? 
 

I’d imagine there would be a reasonably long list. 

Not that many. The highest transfer fee this whole summer is £65m.

 

Other than Brighton clubs have spent less this summer than the last few windows. PSR/FFP will cause transfer fees to drop as we are seeing now.

 

I honestly don’t think the list would be that long. Arsenal have just signed one of the best defenders in Europe for £37M.

[tinoasprilla]

How long till Botman is back?