SteV Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 On 11/01/2025 at 10:43, 54 said: 7 of the 20 worst teams in top flight history have occured in the last 9 years: Got this is from Reddit, here. Expand What number do we think Southampton enter at this season? I’d be surprised if they’re not top 6. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 On 11/01/2025 at 11:36, SteV said: What number do we think Southampton enter at this season? I’d be surprised if they’re not top 6. Expand I'll take between Derby and the mackems, think they'll end up on 12-14 points Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 feels like the Prem is the best it’s ever been in terms of quality this season. rough on whoever gets promoted, especially the likes of Ipswich who weren’t really ready for it at all. just shows what a great job McKenna is doing. unfortunately the gulf in class is getting wider each season, because the Champo is the worst it’s been in ages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 On 11/01/2025 at 12:04, Big River said: feels like the Prem is the best it’s ever been in terms of quality this season. rough on whoever gets promoted, especially the likes of Ipswich who weren’t really ready for it at all. just shows what a great job McKenna is doing. unfortunately the gulf in class is getting wider each season, because the Champo is the worst it’s been in ages. Expand The champ the best it’s ever been IMO, just the top end sides are so far ahead of rest of league it’s broken. Then the gulf to the upper lower half of prem is huge too. Something will give in future seasons because the outlay in the championship top end is daft to chase the prem money. Stoke for example would be long folded as a club if the local bookies didn’t own them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Championship is not a bad division at all. It’s the level of the PL it’s too high. It’s one reason why the likes of us and Villa struggle to compete on multiple fronts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big River Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 On 11/01/2025 at 12:15, Sibierski said: The champ the best it’s ever been IMO, just the top end sides are so far ahead of rest of league it’s broken. Then the gulf to the upper lower half of prem is huge too. Something will give in future seasons because the outlay in the championship top end is daft to chase the prem money. Stoke for example would be long folded as a club if the local bookies didn’t own them. Expand best it’s ever been? okay, so who gets promoted and doesn’t go straight back down? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseman Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 On 11/01/2025 at 12:23, Big River said: best it’s ever been? okay, so who gets promoted and doesn’t go straight back down? Expand That's not because of issues in the championship, the gulf in quality from the established premier clubs keeps moving further away from the yo yo clubs bouncing between the two, and as the clubs drop they them use the parachute payments to push back up again but without the financial ability to compete b and establish themselves unless they do what forest did and spend big and risk the penalty in hopes they survive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 On 11/01/2025 at 12:23, Big River said: best it’s ever been? okay, so who gets promoted and doesn’t go straight back down? Expand Probably none, but that’s more to do with the gulf. Leicester best that came up and should be doing better, but they lost their manager and main CM (who’s training with Chelsea reserves). When a top end Championship club has that happen, there’s not much hope. Forest have survived and that’s on two 36 point seasons and spending way beyond their means Been very fortunate and should now use it as a chance to establish themselves as one of the 9-15 sides where they can build a huge gap to the Championship. It’s easy to forget the talent that’s in the Championship. Only other season Gykores was playing in there. Over the coming seasons the odd side will survive that comes up, but that’ll probably be more down to the chips falling nicely. Prem money has broken the English game. Probably should have a premier league 2 and two leagues of 18, but then that would proper kill off the lower divisions so can’t see EFL clubs ever voting for something like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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healthyaddiction Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 13/01/2025 at 16:22, Erikse said: Expand .23xg from open play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 13/01/2025 at 16:22, Erikse said: Expand Which is just proof that XG is deeply flawed in its calculation. How they had an XG of nearly 4 in their game against us was wild. They had two good chances, but the rest was punt and hope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) Arsenal fans whining about having too many injuries being the reason for the latest form. They have like 6 injuries. Edited January 13 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 13/01/2025 at 20:01, Erikse said: Arsenal fans whining about having too many injuries being the reason for the latest form. They have like 6 injuries. Expand What they mean is they badly miss Saka. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Like Forest have spent anywhere near the red cartel… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) On 13/01/2025 at 21:47, Ronson333 said: Like Forest have spent anywhere near the red cartel… Expand How the fuck can the manager of Premier Leagues 1st placed team have that opinion? Anyone with a brain and basic football knowledge knows how stupid this is. No way he actually thinks that. Edited January 13 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) On 13/01/2025 at 20:34, gdm said: What they mean is they badly miss Saka. Expand We didn't have Bruno or Schar against them. Every team has injuries, most teams has key players out, and that's the point. They were raving about beating us 4-1 when we had 12 or 13 players out last season. The main reason they're complaining now is because they're not used to having more than 2-3 injuries at the same time, while all their opponents usually have more. Edited January 13 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 13/01/2025 at 22:52, Erikse said: We didn't have Bruno or Schar against them. Every team has injuries, most teams has key players out, and that's the point. They were raving about beating us 4-1 when we had 12 or 13 players out last season. The main reason they're complaining now is because they're not used to having more than 2-3 injuries at the same time, while all their opponents usually have more. Expand It was the same when Odegaard was out. Heavy reliant on one or two key players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 11/01/2025 at 10:43, 54 said: 7 of the 20 worst teams in top flight history have occured in the last 9 years: Got this is from Reddit, here. Expand Who the fuck is Darween? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 13/01/2025 at 22:56, gdm said: It was the same when Odegaard was out. Heavy reliant on one or two key players Expand Then they should rather whine about poor squad building rather than playing the victim for having a completely average injury list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 On 11/01/2025 at 12:15, Sibierski said: The champ the best it’s ever been IMO, just the top end sides are so far ahead of rest of league it’s broken. Then the gulf to the upper lower half of prem is huge too. Something will give in future seasons because the outlay in the championship top end is daft to chase the prem money. Stoke for example would be long folded as a club if the local bookies didn’t own them. Expand If it weren’t for ffp the bet365 lass who owns Stoke would probably have a go at getting them promoted. As it is, they won’t survive if they’re promoted. Football is becoming rubbish across all the leagues, and all so Crystal Palace, Brentford, Brighton and other unworthy teams can stay in the Premier League with no owner investment. Id say the Championship is at a low ebb as the quality is so poor compared to lower mid table of the prem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) On 13/01/2025 at 21:47, Ronson333 said: Like Forest have spent anywhere near the red cartel… Expand By the way.. They got promoted through loaning a bunch of players who they lost when the promotion was secured. It's a miracle that they have even survived, even taking the spending into account. Edited January 13 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andycap Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 He starting to fit in at Liverpool well I think started of as a likeable manager like klopp but will end up hated by the time he leaves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 In old football terms Forest have done great and Nuno's a top manager. In the PSR/FFP era they're reduced to cheats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 incredible comment from Slot. Chris Wood is their striker ffs. Hope Forest beat them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomYam Posted January 14 Share Posted January 14 On 13/01/2025 at 23:00, Izakaya said: Who the fuck is Darween? Expand Season 1891-92: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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