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Hmmm…I was kinda hoping for more imaginative targets to maximise our budget plus I don’t rate him that highly as from the little I’ve seen he’s a pace merchant with poor decision making.

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Just now, Shearergol said:

Absolutely nothing to do with his nationality. I was happy with Gordon, elated with Barnes. Elanga would be good for us, but I want so,done to be great for us, like Bruno, Tonali, Isak.

 

Elanga would be much better for us than Barnes IMO. 50m is alot but it's also 2025.

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7 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Risk averse, despite our best signings being from the foreign markets?

 

I'm not saying we should never look abroad, I'm saying the closest way to guarantee success is to buy someone who's already demonstrated their quality in this league. And we got Burn from Brighton. :pow:

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3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

I definitely wouldn't say that, no. :lol: I've been saying all season that Forest aren't actually very good, that how they play isn't sustainable, and their league position was a lie. That being said, they've still got good players and Elanga is one of them imo. 

 

Forest aren't anywhere near as good as us.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm with you KI.

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Just now, SAK said:

Hmmm…I was kinda hoping for more imaginative targets to maximise our budget plus I don’t rate him that highly as from the little I’ve seen he’s a pace merchant with poor decision making.

Ooh ah Franz Carr say ooh ah Franz Carr

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3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

I definitely wouldn't say that, no. :lol: I've been saying all season that Forest aren't actually very good, that how they play isn't sustainable, and their league position was a lie. That being said, they've still got good players and Elanga is one of them imo. 

 

Forest aren't anywhere near as good as us.

 

 

 

 

 


Yea he is, for them. I agree that they aren’t as good as us. That’s by what Nuno has done is quite impressive. Their players overall aren’t close to ours. 

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1 minute ago, Shearergol said:

That’s because their players aren’t as good :bluestar:

The way they play and their reliance on exceding xG, but they have some good players. MGW, Elanga, Murillo being the standout 3.

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Just now, Shearergol said:

But we already have Barnes. We’re going to have 4 wingers who all do the same thing [emoji38]

Barnes is a left winger. Elanga right.

 

Gordon and Barnes LW

 

Elanga and Murphy RW

 

Is much better than without Elanga. This idea of Gordon or Barnes RW is a non starter.

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38 minutes ago, SteV said:

Not really, if their model could get you into the elite places in the division, someone would have cracked it by now. But it doesn’t. It needs to be supplemented by “overpriced”, established PL talent. 
 

So every time we’re linked (not even every time we buy) with one of these “overpriced” PL players, people would do well to remember, these are the type of players (hopefully allied with so cheaper finds from elsewhere) that are proven to get you where you want to be.

 

Their model is to buy before they prove themselves and sell to bigger teams once they have - for inflated fees, thus being in a constant cycle of rebuilding.

 

Their aim is not to build sustainable elite success but a sustainable business, which is why elite clubs can't use it as they're after instant success and can't offer the same platform and conditions to develop. 

 

Ironically, Brighton use the exact same model as the European clubs; buying relatively unknown and selling for inflated fees (relative to their league) to bigger clubs who want proven quality.

 

The key difference between Brighton and those clubs (like Lyon) is with a PL proven moniker they can add another £20-30m to their price, where as in Europe you can buy the player of exact same quality for that amount alone. 

 

 

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Just now, SUPERTOON said:

Are people confident we can strengthen the squad adequately, if we spend 50 million on Elanga? 


Absolutely not. Especially when I don’t see Elanga strengthening us considerably. 

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1 minute ago, STM said:

Barnes is a left winger. Elanga right.

 

Gordon and Barnes LW

 

Elanga and Murphy RW

 

Is much better than without Elanga. This idea of Gordon or Barnes RW is a non starter.

Yep, so 4 wingers who do the same thing. What I said.

 

so in those games where it’s just not working, we can bring a different player on to try the same thing.

 

using half our reported budget.

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Just now, SUPERTOON said:

Are people confident we can strengthen the squad adequately, if we spend 50 million on Elanga? 

 

Depends what you mean by adequate?

 

If you mean can we sign a CB after that, then yes.

 

If you mean more than that, then it's likely we will need to sell but we can sell, Longstaff/Willock for starters.

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Just now, STM said:

 

Depends what you mean by adequate?

 

If you mean can we sign a CB after that, then yes.

 

If you mean more than that, then it's likely we will need to sell but we can sell, Longstaff/Willock for starters.

I’d say 4 key signings, Elanga being one of them. At the very least after that we need a CB and some quality backup for Isak. I think we can make do with Pope for another season. We also need CM but agree that will happen if Willock or Longstaff go.

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