Ben Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Fenham Mag said: I wonder if we could get Amad for a lesser fee, him being a left footer on the right is something Howe would love. Also can play in a 10 position which we lack. I’d be happy with either, both very talented wing players and weakening rivals. I don't think the Makems would ever recover if we signed Amad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago People criticising us just using past targets seems a bit of an odd one to me The players we've been linked with like Trafford and Elanga have had the best seasons of their career, which means the scouting team must be doing something right? Just look at the likes of Ekitike who we scouted and is now flying and being linked with a huge move. Maybe we need to trust the scouting system which has brought us our first trophy in 70 years and Champions League twice in 3 seasons? They've barely signed a dud since the takeover Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, mighty__mag said: I'd be buzzing if we got Elanga, I dont think he's worth over 40m but, saying that his assists speak for themselves, without looking into his stats you'd assume Chris Woods miraculous goal tally would have been down to a lot of Elangas work and goal/attacking contributions. His 6 goals are similar stats to most wide players, however, you'll imagine Eddie Howe will raise his game and his goals. I just look at that season Miggy had under Howe, and if Howe could get such levels out of Miggy and now similar from Jacob Murphy, then he'll easily make a stronger winger out of Elanga. Yes , and even before we begin talking about Howe improving him. How about Bruno playing down that right side with him, and threading him through when he makes those runs in behind at the speed he does. Also the effect his ball carrying down that side is going to have drawing attention and opening up space in turn for Bruno and Tino to exploit. And then his familiarity with Isak from playing together for the national team, and how we could benefit from that too. He's going to have better players around him, which will also have a significant impact too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ikon said: I find it astonishing how many on here put so little importance to players having good technical ability and awareness and just the quality in general play tbh. If he can run fast and deliver a ball then that’s enough. It’s more or less what Murphy does, although he is not as rapid. If we sign Elanga it means we have put close to £150m on three wide players and still we are lacking in creativity, ball retention, unpredictability, 1v1 and so on. To me it’s obvious that we need to raise the technical know how overall in this team. Have more different tools and variety to our game. It doesn’t mean that “intensity won’t be our identity” We play one way and that's with power, running and pace. It has got us champions league qualification twice and a cup so not sure why people feel we need to change that. Edited 10 hours ago by Geogaddi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunk Moreland Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 1 minute ago, joeyt said: People criticising us just using past targets seems a bit of an odd one to me The players we've been linked with like Trafford and Elanga have had the best seasons of their career, which means the scouting team must be doing something right? Just look at the likes of Ekitike who we scouted and is now flying and being linked with a huge move. Maybe we need to trust the scouting system which has brought us our first trophy in 70 years and Champions League twice in 3 seasons? They've barely signed a dud since the takeover Much better than chasing whoever the new trendy player is every transfer window like some clubs do. Speaks to a coherent strategy and as you say, hard to think of a player we've had a serious interest in who hasn't kicked on after us not signing them for whatever reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Just now, Geogaddi said: We play one way and that's with power, running and pace , it's got us champions league qualification twice and a cup so not sure why people feel we need to change that To improve and become better. We have done well but it doesn’t mean that we can’t do even better or improve in certain areas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago I read an article which Elanga says he’s very close to Isak and they have very good chemistry on the pitch for Sweden. could this be a signing to appease Isak? If Shearer in his prime had said to us to sign Jason Wilcox from Blackburn he knows my game and will get the best out of me we would have probably done it. So perhaps it’s not just Elanga himself, it’s Elanga plus what else he will get out of Isak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Ikon said: I find it astonishing how many on here put so little importance to players having good technical ability and awareness and just the quality in general play tbh. If he can run fast and deliver a ball then that’s enough. It’s more or less what Murphy does, although he is not as rapid. If we sign Elanga it means we have put close to £150m on three wide players and still we are lacking in creativity, ball retention, unpredictability, 1v1 and so on. To me it’s obvious that we need to raise the technical know how overall in this team. Have more different tools and variety to our game. It doesn’t mean that “intensity won’t be our identity” Most of these technical players don't have anywhere near the output of these pace merchants though and when they do they cost like £100m. Just adding a RW like Maddison or Lee Kang In won't have us tearing apart a Moysey defence every time alone. Mbuemo looked perfect as he's great in transitions, can play up top, and has bags of technical ability, but he knows that so is holding out for absurd wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunk Moreland Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Just now, kingxlnc said: could this be a signing to appease Isak? It's because Elanga is the player who fits the profile we're looking for and is within the range of our current purchasing power. That he and Isak are buddies is just a bonus. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago Has anyone else not been able to sleep over this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago (edited) 19 minutes ago, Ikon said: I find it astonishing how many on here put so little importance to players having good technical ability and awareness and just the quality in general play tbh. If he can run fast and deliver a ball then that’s enough. It’s more or less what Murphy does, although he is not as rapid. If we sign Elanga it means we have put close to £150m on three wide players and still we are lacking in creativity, ball retention, unpredictability, 1v1 and so on. To me it’s obvious that we need to raise the technical know how overall in this team. Have more different tools and variety to our game. It doesn’t mean that “intensity won’t be our identity” I agree that we need more ability and composure on the ball. I think Botman and Hall coming back into the team, with Trafford and a RCB coming in should help our control. Fingers crossed we see more of Miley in the midfield too. With that in mind, I don't mind our front three being a bit more direct. Elanga plays more narrow than Murphy, which would allow Tino to overlap more, while his ability to go both ways means he's not as one dimensional either. I think we might be going for something like that early Klopp-Liverpool style. Ironically they bought a lot of PL proven players too. Edited 9 hours ago by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: If were launching £50M at Eleange type players we must have more to spend than I thought Let's see what Elanga's numbers will be like with a season of Bruno threading passes to him and Isak in the middle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 4 minutes ago, TBG said: Has anyone else not been able to sleep over this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 12 minutes ago, KaKa said: Yes , and even before we begin talking about Howe improving him. How about Bruno playing down that right side with him, and threading him through when he makes those runs in behind at the speed he does. Also the effect his ball carrying down that side is going to have drawing attention and opening up space in turn for Bruno and Tino to exploit. And then his familiarity with Isak from playing together for the national team, and how we could benefit from that too. He's going to have better players around him, which will also have a significant impact too. Yes, Howe could implement the previous style that elevated Miggys game so much. The Bruno Trippier Miggy combo was a real threat, but we'll need to see it as Bruno Tino Elanga hopefully Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Ikon said: I find it astonishing how many on here put so little importance to players having good technical ability and awareness and just the quality in general play tbh. If he can run fast and deliver a ball then that’s enough. It’s more or less what Murphy does, although he is not as rapid. If we sign Elanga it means we have put close to £150m on three wide players and still we are lacking in creativity, ball retention, unpredictability, 1v1 and so on. To me it’s obvious that we need to raise the technical know how overall in this team. Have more different tools and variety to our game. It doesn’t mean that “intensity won’t be our identity” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Ikon said: To improve and become better. We have done well but it doesn’t mean that we can’t do even better or improve in certain areas. We need more money to improve and do better , we don't need to change the way we play when it has worked so well for us . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago (edited) 5 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: We need more money to improve and do better , we don't need to change the way we play when it has worked so well for us . I don’t want us to change the way we play. I just want us to become better in our weaker areas as well as having a bit more variety/unpredictability in us. A technical player with a bit more guile doesn’t mean that we change that much at all. Just have a slightly different tool kit. 50-60m on Elanga and people say we need more money…. Edited 9 hours ago by Ikon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 26 minutes ago, Ben said: I don't think the Makems would ever recover if we signed Amad Also could see the start of a Froggy/Mackem alliance which would last the rest of the summer before imploding when Sunderland get their only 6 points of the season off them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 20 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: We play one way and that's with power, running and pace. It has got us champions league qualification twice and a cup so not sure why people feel we need to change that. With all the extra games we’ll need a deep squad though. If we don’t add proper depth this summer I’ll be expecting a really inconsistent season and big problems with injuries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joelinton7 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 1 minute ago, Kimbo said: With all the extra games we’ll need a deep squad though. If we don’t add proper depth this summer I’ll be expecting a really inconsistent season and big problems with injuries. If we don’t get what we want this summer I’m scared Eddie will walk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago I’m getting more excited by this signing, as and when we pull it off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Chelsea and Dortmund in for Elanga as well now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny1403 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 14 hours ago, Froggy said: KaKa you're on here trying to justify £50m for 23 year old Elanga because he had 18 goal involvements, yet suggest £60m for 20 year Garnacho is a ridiculous price when he got 21 goal involvements. Do you realise how silly you look? Sorry Froggy, you think 60m for Garnacho would NOT be a ridiculous price?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago Going to be such a gutter when he goes to Spurs for £45m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago He is 23, played for an inferior team all season and got a good assist and goal average, he knows Isak well and they are mates. Very fast, our front there Will be a nightmare for the opposition, no high lines against us! I am all for It if It is in the 40-45M range Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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