Anthony Elanga

[Ikon]

Just now, jonny1403 said:

Sorry Froggy, you think 60m for Garnacho would NOT be a ridiculous price?!

It would be. But less so than 50-60 for Elanga. 

[jonny1403]

9 hours ago, Zero said:

I genuinely won’t believe that Nickson failed to find anyone from foreign leagues after 2 years of work, especially given his past record since the takeover.

 

Our best players (Botman, Bruno, Tonali, Isak) are all from foreign leagues.

 

 

Dan Burn has contributed around 10x as much as Botman since he's been here...

[jonny1403]

1 minute ago, Ikon said:

It would be. But less so than 50-60 for Elanga. 

 

I wouldn't want to pay 50m for Elanga, no doubt. But he's quite clearly a better and more developed player than Garnacho?

[Ikon]

1 minute ago, buzza said:

He is 23, played for an inferior team all season and got a good assist and goal average, he knows Isak well and they are mates.

Very fast, our front there Will be a nightmare for the opposition, no high lines against us!

I am all for It if It is in the 40-45M range

Yep no high lines against us from many teams. That’s when we will struggle. 

[jonny1403]

38 minutes ago, joeyt said:

People criticising us just using past targets seems a bit of an odd one to me

 

The players we've been linked with like Trafford and Elanga have had the best seasons of their career,  which means the scouting team must be doing something right?

 

Just look at the likes of Ekitike who we scouted and is now flying and being linked with a huge move. 

 

Maybe we need to trust the scouting system which has brought us our first trophy in 70 years and Champions League twice in 3 seasons?

 

They've barely signed a dud since the takeover

 

This has absolutely nailed it. Close the thread and stop whinging.

[Ikon]

Just now, jonny1403 said:

 

I wouldn't want to pay 50m for Elanga, no doubt. But he's quite clearly a better and more developed player than Garnacho?

Talent wise he’s much better. Just a rotten mentality and attitude. I think the environment at ManU has meant that he’s lost his track. I don’t want him but I’d rather pay the money for him than Elanga if I was forced between the two. Don’t want either

[jonny1403]

Just now, Ikon said:

Talent wise he’s much better. Just a rotten mentality and attitude. I think the environment at ManU has meant that he’s lost his track. I don’t want him but I’d rather pay the money for him than Elanga if I was forced between the two. Don’t want either

 

Agree that he's lost his way and has more to offer. But I have seen zero evidence he is 'much better' talent wise than Elanga.

[Thumbheed]

15 minutes ago, jonny1403 said:

 

Dan Burn has contributed around 10x as much as Botman since he's been here...

 

Well yeh, Botman's been injured for an entire season. 

[The College Dropout]

People tell about Forest’s over performance. It’s the same for the players.  Elanga has over performed his ‘output’ particularly his assists. Over twice his expected assists were converted 

[The College Dropout]

48 minutes ago, Crimson Cardigan said:

Who would you rather? This sometimes translates to: I want us to take a punt on a foreign player I’ve never seen play.

This is such a crap response.we aren’t scouts. 

[Smal]

9 hours ago, r0cafella said:

At what price isn't it a waste of funds?

We have to ask ourselves which teams we struggle against, and it’s not imo the kind of teams where Elanga would make any difference whatsoever. Do we beat Everton, Bournemouth, Fulham, these kind of teams because we have Anthony Elanga instead of Jacob Murphy? I don’t see how.

 

I don’t think he’s better than the Murphy of the previous two seasons, and he doesn’t provide us with anything we’re missing in the squad in terms of profile, so we’d still need to sign another £40m+ player in that position if we want to actually compete for things imo.

 

I also think with some time and coaching you could ask Gordon to play on the right and you instantly have someone who is better than Elanga ever will be in pretty much every regard.

 

So, £10m-15m as a rotation option that eventually replaces Murphy as second choice? But we already have Osula who can be that anyway

 

Long story short I don’t think it would be a good signing at all, sorry  

[sushimonster85]

5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

People tell about Forest’s over performance. It’s the same for the players.  Elanga has over performed his ‘output’ particularly his assists. Over twice his expected assists were converted 

 

Isn't the same true for Mbeumo last season, both for goals and assists? And people in here were clamouring for him before he decided on Man U.

[andycap]

9 hours ago, tgarve said:

You don’t know better than the club 

It's common sense lad. 

 

[Crimson Cardigan]

4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

This is such a crap response.we aren’t scouts. 

We’re not scouts but that doesn’t stop us writing off players in the premier league based on all kinds of personal bias/ignorance. Can’t have it both ways.

[andycap]

3 hours ago, Crimson Cardigan said:

Another thing, we’re in fairly desperate need of someone who can take a free kick and Elanga put in some great ones last season.

Which makes no difference as long as tripps & gordon are standing behind them. 😂 

[andycap]

3 hours ago, Cronky said:

 

I get what you're saying, and I would rather we were signing someone who was a bit better on the technical side. Mbeumo would have been great, but maybe we just have to face the fact that the players who are most in demand at any given time won't be available to us yet.

 

If Elanga does sign, then I think either Gordon or Barnes will leave, and I reckon it will be Gordon.

 

I agree that we have difficulty in breaking down teams who come to defend because our players generally aren't technical enough when it comes to passing and controlling the ball through tight spaces. Maybe Grealish on loan, playing as a number 10 would help.

Don't understand this thinking at all why would we shift gordon? If we did that we'd be back to square one needing another winger. 

[Novocastrian]

26 minutes ago, jonny1403 said:

 

This has absolutely nailed it. Close the thread and stop whinging.

All it shows is we missed the boat the first time round, like Joao Pedro and Ekitike. Our scouting is sound but the real value comes from getting these players before they double in price and attract the usual suitors.

[Andy84]

I think they’ll want £60m plus 

[andycap]

1 hour ago, Geogaddi said:

We play one way and that's with power, running and pace. It has got us champions league qualification twice and a cup so not sure why people feel we need to change that. 

 

 

 

But surely you can see we need creativity when faced with a low block. 

We can't keep the way we play against those type of teams we need to have different options. 

 

[Froggy]

33 minutes ago, jonny1403 said:

Sorry Froggy, you think 60m for Garnacho would NOT be a ridiculous price?!

 

I think the price for all footballers is ridiculous. 

 

My point is that if people believe £50m for Elanga is acceptable then I'm not sure how they think £60m is ridiculous for someone who is 3 years younger with similar output and has won a major trophy while scoring in the final. 

 

Bear in mind Napoli's opening offer in January was reported as £40m which was immediately rejected. I'd say it's likely we settle somewhere in the high 40's with heavy add ons and clauses. 

[The Prophet]

1 minute ago, andycap said:

But surely you can see we need creativity when faced with a low block. 

We can't keep the way we play against those type of teams we need to have different options. 

 

 

Can only think of West Ham and Everton (both at home), where we struggled against a low block last season.

 

Our xG, goals scored, etc were generally fine across the season as a whole.

[relámpago blanco]

34 minutes ago, Smal said:

We have to ask ourselves which teams we struggle against, and it’s not imo the kind of teams where Elanga would make any difference whatsoever. Do we beat Everton, Bournemouth, Fulham, these kind of teams because we have Anthony Elanga instead of Jacob Murphy? I don’t see how.

 

I don’t think he’s better than the Murphy of the previous two seasons, and he doesn’t provide us with anything we’re missing in the squad in terms of profile, so we’d still need to sign another £40m+ player in that position if we want to actually compete for things imo.

 

I also think with some time and coaching you could ask Gordon to play on the right and you instantly have someone who is better than Elanga ever will be in pretty much every regard.

 

So, £10m-15m as a rotation option that eventually replaces Murphy as second choice? But we already have Osula who can be that anyway

 

Long story short I don’t think it would be a good signing at all, sorry  

I agree with this, we lack creativity in the final 3rd. We don't need someone who can create something out of nothing as opposed to hard working, quick etc. Though that's exactly how we play so not sure how what we perceived as wanting would fit in.

[Kid Icarus]

33 minutes ago, The College Dropout said:

This is such a crap response.we aren’t scouts. 

Howeh, you just like most of us and probably more than most love a bit of armchair scouting, then as soon as it's "who should we sign then?" this is the response. 

[TBG]

Wonder if this is a parting gift from Mitchell to ruin our season and clubs future 

[SUPERTOON]

5 minutes ago, The Prophet said:

 

Can only think of West Ham and Everton (both at home), where we struggled against a low block last season.

 

Our xG, goals scored, etc were generally fine across the season as a whole.

More than anything, we struggle with retaining possession, that’s the next step for us. Don’t think Elanga helps with this.