TRon Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 2 minutes ago, Ikon said: They are on par in this area. Elanga is faster and more explosive. I reckon he'll be better technically as well as it turns out, I know Murphy can strike the ball nicely, but his first touch is often bad, and he doesn't carry the ball well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 5 minutes ago, Ikon said: They are on par in this area. What did you think of the Gordon signing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Going on record here as saying I hope we sign Elanga and I think he'll be very good for us if he does sign. However, we absolutely have to get a 10 in if he does come Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Just now, TRon said: Elanga is faster and more explosive. I reckon he'll be better technically as well as it turns out, I know Murphy can strike the ball nicely, but his first touch is often bad, and he doesn't carry the ball well. Yes he’s more explosive and quicker as I mentioned earlier. I was talking about them being on par when it comes to technical ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Just now, gbandit said: Going on record here as saying I hope we sign Elanga and I think he'll be very good for us if he does sign. However, we absolutely have to get a 10 in if he does come Yep. I’d be more open to it then. Would prefer a different profile than Elanga still. But I’d be much more ok with it. But not for much more money than the 45m, absolutely not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 9 minutes ago, LFEE said: He’s on holiday. His parting words were “things usually happen when I’m away”. Looks like he was right again   You gone anywhere nice on your holiday ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 They must’ve had word he’s keen if they’ve bid? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Just now, Ikon said: Yes he’s more explosive and quicker as I mentioned earlier. I was talking about them being on par when it comes to technical ability. I already said Elanga carries the ball better as well. Whatever metric Murphy is on a par with probably isn't that much of a factor as long as Elanga is improving us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 The main benefit of Elanga over Murphy, is not actually his blistering pace. It’s his ability to use both feet to both strike and cross Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 (edited) They’ve bid knowing that offer won’t be accepted surely, a tactic maybe. They’ll want £65 mill at least and we won’t go to it is my guess Edited June 24 by Andy84 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 3 minutes ago, ExiledGeordie said: They must’ve had word he’s keen if they’ve bid? He's been frothing at the gash for ages for this move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 3 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said: What did you think of the Gordon signing? He wasn’t my preferred type of player ideally. But still a lot better in general play than Elanga. Better technically too. Even now I think he lacks a bit in some areas. But his other strong attributes very much weigh this up when he’s on song. He’s one of the reasons that I want something more different to our right hand side so that we can get some more variety and other strong technical attributes to give us some balance. I was against signing him from the off but that was very much mainly because I disliked him from his Everton days, not much to do with pure football reasons. I’m sure I said stuff that I shouldn’t have. When it comes to Elanga, I like him, but not so much for footballing reasons. Especially for us and where we are aiming to go, and what what areas we need to improve in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 What happened to good old fashioned transfer requests? If Elanga knocked on their door and says he wants the move and is willing to give up his loyalty bonus that puts them in a very tricky situation. I think Elanga would be a great signing, despite not being this mythical technical superstar that apparently we should be signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BergenMagpie Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 As been said - they would always reject the first bid Looks like he’s «only» on 25k per week so it might even be a case of Forest wanting him to hand in a transfer request so they won’t have to pay his loyalty bonus + bump up the price with a few million in the process Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 1 minute ago, STM said: What happened to good old fashioned transfer requests? If Elanga knocked on their door and says he wants the move and is willing to give up his loyalty bonus that puts them in a very tricky situation. I think Elanga would be a great signing, despite not being this mythical technical superstar that apparently we should be signing. They don’t happen anymore it seems. He wants to come I reckon but won’t kick up a fuss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 5 minutes ago, Andy84 said: They’ve bid knowing that won’t be accepted surely, a tactic maybe. They’ll want £65 mill at least and we won’t going is my guess Aye if it's only £45m (no add ons etc), there's no chance. Can only imagine we're trying to unsettle him, but there's no way they're letting him go at that price. It's a borderline insulting offer for a young, capped, established Premier League winger these days to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 2 minutes ago, BergenMagpie said: As been said - they would always reject the first bid Looks like he’s «only» on 25k per week so it might even be a case of Forest wanting him to hand in a transfer request so they won’t have to pay his loyalty bonus + bump up the price with a few million in the process If he stays, its an absolute certainty that he gets a pay rise, which could well be what this is all about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Checko Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 45 million for essentially a hyperMurphy sounds reasonable to me tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 Just now, Checko said: 45 million for essentially a hyperMurphy sounds reasonable to me tbh. It won’t be close to 45m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 He's been in great form last two seasons in the main for Forest. A real handful in transition with a good # of goals and assists. At 23, probably levels to his execution and decision making to fine-tune under Eddie's tutelage. Positionally versatile, and if he can get to an even better level than last season, would be very well loved in a black and white shirt. These sums always seem like big #'s when you compare to other players and positions but I trust the club to get the transfers right, they seemingly have nailed nearly every single one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St1pe Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 I like Elanga a lot and like him in our system but there’s still some questions over how far he can go. £45m seems like a good fee for him. I don’t think he’s worth north of £50-£55m. I think we should move on if Forest are adamant they aren’t gonna sell. Last thing we need is a Guehi style drawn out process. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 14 minutes ago, Checko said: 45 million for essentially a hyperMurphy sounds reasonable to me tbh. I agree. How much did they pay for him? And how much did we pay for Gordon and Barnes? How much did Spurs pay for Johnson? All around that ball park for a player they bought for very little iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie_once_removed Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 It's just the state of the modern game that £45 million is a fair price for him even though it seems insanely high. It's on the table, they know it and he knows it. We should now move on to other targets which may in turn cause them to reconsider the offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 The Murphy comparisons are difficult to understand. At the same age, Murphy could barely hit a shot on target never mind have consecutive seasons of 14 and 17 Premier League goal involvements, in a team most people would only regard as being fairly average from an attacking perspective. You'd think Almiron and Longstaff would have shown us a thing or two about purple patches and players eventually reverting to factory settings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 The classic put pressure on the player's camp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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