Newcastle United 3-0 Aston Villa - 26/12/24

[KetsbaiaIsBald]

As per others it’s a clear red.  He lost his head.  Pure stupidity.  
 

Villa were slightly on top at the time but it means nothing.  Even Ipswich had a period of play after our first.   During this phase I felt we were one decent pass away from a second. 
 

The result set up a brilliant Boxing Day steak feast with my family.  Cheers Duran. 

[Checko]

Really wasn't sure about the red card tbh. It wasn't a stamp, it was a scrape and he does lose his footing and balance which could well be what causes his leg to instinctively come out. On the other hand he loses his balance because he treads on Schar and he's looking at him the whole time.

 

It's all very quick in real time but he had a couple of steps first, he shouldn't be stepping on Schar in the first place there so I'm leaning to red because of that.

[Hanshithispantz]

5 minutes ago, Checko said:

Really wasn't sure about the red card tbh. It wasn't a stamp

The first (left foot) was. I missed the first one at the time and thought it was harsh, but there's a couple of angles where it's pretty clear he aims his left foot towards Schar.

 

 

Edited December 27, 2024 by Hanshithispantz

[Lush Vlad]

Just a stamp and then a kick/raking motion with his right. Both being unnatural and deliberate movements to hit Schar. 
 

No red. 

[Hanshithispantz]

 

 

Posted earlier in the thread, watch his left foot not his right.

[jack j]

I've seen worse like. Duran being a lunatic in the past probably doesn’t help his cause

[Checko]

3 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

The first (left foot) was. I missed the first one at the time and thought it was harsh, but there's a couple of angles where it's pretty clear he aims his left foot towards Schar.

 

 

 

Yeah, I meant not a stamp with the right, he does step on Schar and shouldn't.

[Donut]

Massive win! Villa beaten to a pulp in the end just constantly giving it away. Reminded me of the 22-23 season.

[OoOGazOoO]

Just watching MotD and little chuckle at Duran launching the water bottle after sending off and Emery just ignoring him as he walks off down the tunnel 

[St1pe]

Im actually a bit baffled there’s so much debate about it. It’s a red. He’s meant to leave something on him and he’s been caught. 

[1964]

It's not a clear red, otherwise the debate wouldn't be so split.  I think it was harsh and we would be taking that view if it were one of ours.  The rolling of the left ankle caused the apparent clumsy fall

[Checko]

1 minute ago, 1964 said:

It's not a clear red, otherwise the debate wouldn't be so split.  I think it was harsh and we would be taking that view if it were one of ours.  The rolling of the left ankle caused the apparent clumsy fall

Definitely looks worse in slow motion, can see why it's split. Also if it had been one of our players think there would be a  lot more calls for accidental.

[Shearergol]

2 minutes ago, 1964 said:

It's not a clear red, otherwise the debate wouldn't be so split.  I think it was harsh and we would be taking that view if it were one of ours.  The rolling of the left ankle caused the apparent clumsy fall

He rolled his left ankle trying to stamp on schar though 

[RS]

Maybe Duran would have got away with the first deliberate stamp with his left foot. He had the choice of stepping over him with his right but he  brings his foot back to ensure he connects for a second time which makes the decision easier. 

I thought we looked a class act today and Martinez saved them from a proper embarrassing humping. 

[Mikky]

It’s a clear red - just like the stamp on Bi Joe the other week - there’s a duty of care to the opponent 

[Lotus]

Nothing wrong with @David Edgar seeing the momentum of the game swing to Villa for a bit. I thought so too but wasn’t sure they’d score. 
Overall I think we’d have won 11 v 11 because I think we had better players in midfield. 

[Hanshithispantz]

There's only a debate because people are ignoring the left foot stamp and the fact it was Duran involved, who Emery knows is a complete liability. People have been going on for a couple years now about how he's a cunt off the pitch.

[Shearergol]

1 minute ago, Lotus said:

Nothing wrong with @David Edgar seeing the momentum of the game swing to Villa for a bit. I thought so too but wasn’t sure they’d score. 
Overall I think we’d have won 11 v 11 because I think we had better players in midfield. 

It’s the “Can only see villa winning this” shite patter. So pointlessly mind-numbingly negative bullshit that he can’t help himself from posting. Sad that he can’t bring himself to find a bit of joy watching us.

[Lotus]

Just now, Shearergol said:

It’s the “Can only see villa winning this” shite patter. So pointlessly mind-numbingly negative bullshit that he can’t help himself from posting. Sad that he can’t bring himself to find a bit of joy watching us.

Well, I don’t know the bloke but I imagine it’s born of PTSD of watching us for years pre EH. They do say pessimists are among the happiest of people 

[Smal]

there was a spell from minute 10-20 where Villa had some control without actually threatening at all. We had gained control back well before the red card.

[Unbelievable]

I had been half watching the game yesterday, so just watched the extended highlights. Appears I missed about half of our chances. We could have had ten! Can we play Villa every week please?

[joeyt]

I can be persuaded either way with the red card. My initial reaction was he didn't mean it

[STM]

He tries to get him 3 times. Left foot, right foot across the back and then flicks the same right footed trying to catch Schar on the head with the follow through.

 

Of course all 3 were just unfortunate and accidental, there's simply no way he could have avoided implanting his studs into Schar 3 times. 

 

To me if you've played any sort of footy, you know exactly what Duran is doing.

[Lush Vlad]

He was very unfortunate. He tried to miss him on 3 separate occasions by moving his legs in Schar’s direction.  

[NSG]

Something that annoyed me a little bit is that I think Bruno’s goal should have stood.
 

If the ball had gone in directly off his arm then yes disallow it, but the sizeable deflection off the defender on the post after Bruno’s touch actually turned the ball in. The deflection from Bruno’s arm was going wide and therefore the goal would have been deemed an OG rather than a Bruno goal, meaning his touch was an “assist” rather than him being the goal scorer.

 

 

 

Edited December 27, 2024 by NSG