TheBrownBottle Posted Tuesday at 19:41 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:41 (edited) B, but borderline C this season Edited Tuesday at 19:42 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibierski Posted Tuesday at 19:44 Share Posted Tuesday at 19:44 For ones not high on Gordon, who at LW in rest of league would you take over him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Tuesday at 21:38 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:38 1 hour ago, Sibierski said: For ones not high on Gordon, who at LW in rest of league would you take over him? Luis Diaz, Son, Gakpo, Martinelli, Trossard at present without thinking too hard about it. Doesn't mean Gordon is a bad player; he's clearly a good one, and he would be difficult to replace. But I'm not seeing what you're seeing re him being a potentially world-class one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. TC Posted Tuesday at 21:39 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:39 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: Luis Diaz, Son, Gakpo, Martinelli, Trossard at present without thinking too hard about it. Doesn't mean Gordon is a bad player; he's clearly a good one, and he would be difficult to replace. But I'm not seeing what you're seeing re him being a potentially world-class one. Trossard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Tuesday at 21:43 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:43 2 minutes ago, Dr. TC said: Trossard I'd be tempted - the lad is seriously talented. Having said that, I'd still take Gordon. But I don't think it is open-and-shut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Tuesday at 21:46 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:46 Martinelli and Trossard over Gordon? Nah. Son is seriously on the decline and all. Although I bet his numbers still match up favourably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Tuesday at 21:50 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:50 3 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Martinelli and Trossard over Gordon? Nah. Son is seriously on the decline and all. Although I bet his numbers still match up favourably. I'd definitely take Martinelli ahead of him tbf. This is at this moment; it doesn't mean I think we should try and line up a swap deal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted Tuesday at 21:51 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:51 Of those names I’d only take Diaz as a definite and only Gakpo as a maybe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Tuesday at 21:53 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:53 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: I'd definitely take Martinelli ahead of him tbf. This is at this moment; it doesn't mean I think we should try and line up a swap deal Really? Similar age. Plays in a team that create loads more, has Saka taking on doubles on the other side every week, has Odegaard behind him. Yet his numbers are nothing special bar one season (I think). Arsenal fans I know find him hugely frustrating. Whenever I watch him he flatters to deceive and doesn’t use his pace as well as he could. Which is actually a gripe I have with Gordon sometimes TBF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted Tuesday at 21:57 Share Posted Tuesday at 21:57 2 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Really? Similar age. Plays in a team that create loads more, has Saka taking on doubles on the other side every week, has Odegaard behind him. Yet his numbers are nothing special bar one season (I think). Arsenal fans I know find him hugely frustrating. Whenever I watch him he flatters to deceive and doesn’t use his pace as well as he could. Which is actually a gripe I have with Gordon sometimes TBF. There is a reason that Arsenal create more, in fairness. They have better players - and I'll chuck Martinelli into that list. Gordon has Hall behind him, Isak next to him, and has Tonali and Bruno in midfield supplying him - he's got perfectly capable player around him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted Tuesday at 22:06 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:06 2 hours ago, Sibierski said: For ones not high on Gordon, who at LW in rest of league would you take over him? Diaz, Gakpo & Semenyo off the top of my head. Marmoush will likely be there too by the end of the season if he keeps scoring against shite sides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Tuesday at 22:08 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:08 10 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: There is a reason that Arsenal create more, in fairness. They have better players - and I'll chuck Martinelli into that list. Gordon has Hall behind him, Isak next to him, and has Tonali and Bruno in midfield supplying him - he's got perfectly capable player around him. Eh? He’s a forward player in a better team, that dominate the ball and create more chances than us. Plus the likes of Odegaard who finds space in a phone box with his passing. Yet his numbers in the last couple of seasons aren’t any better than Gordon’s, are they? That’s with Gordon having a bit of an off-season in comparison to last year. I’m not even a massive Gordon fan, TBH. I don’t know what it is about his game that annoys me. But he can be a bit wasteful with his decision making. That said. I’m just absolutely not having Martinelli or Trossard ahead of him, though. Especially when the former is just as guilty of it as Gordon, if not worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenhill Posted Tuesday at 22:24 Share Posted Tuesday at 22:24 2 hours ago, Sibierski said: For ones not high on Gordon, who at LW in rest of league would you take over him? Maybe a bit off topic but the LWs in the Premier League seems quite poor especially when the league has so many talents at other positions. Anyone of Vini Jr, Mbappe, Nico Williams, Raphinha (who plays at LW this season), Rodrygo (who can definitely play at LW) could easily be one of the top 2 or even the best LW here had they played in the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cf Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago Anthony Gordon scores a B joining Botman in that club. Harvey Barnes next who following Gordon's red card might be getting a bit of a run in his preferred position... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago Barnes is the most C that has ever been C'd. He starts for basically any bottom half team and I don't know why but he screams of one day being a West Ham player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago Barnes is a low C. He starts for the majority of premier league teams, but doesn't offer enough in general play to start for best teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago Barnes is the epitome of a C on this scale. Clearly Premier League level but there's a reason he's only been capped once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago C. Next. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geogaddi Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago Easy C for Barnes , he knows where the goal is but won't contribute anything else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago Same applies from when we did this a few months ago. On 08/12/2024 at 15:00, Kid Icarus said: Eg I think Barnes can be a top 4 impact sub, an upper mid-table starter with good cover behind him, lower mid-table without. In situations like this D is actually higher than C imo. Barnes is a specialist player that works best as an impact sub (D) but can potentially do that at a higher level (B) than he would play as a starter (C). C seems fair but I don't think it suits the type of player he is at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago C, with some B attributes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 6 minutes ago, gbandit said: C, with some B attributes Yeah, that's bang on. I was going to say he's probably between a C and B, but closer to a C. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abacus Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Can't really argue with a C overall. Be interesting how he does with a few games under his belt as a starting player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago (edited) How can you rate Barnes fairly, when he's not even able to play his position, or start regularly. Howe will always play Gordon no matter what, unless he's forced to play Barnes on the left. Just do the whole thing on their Fifa ratings, with Tonali being an A seems that's the way people are influenced. Edited 18 hours ago by mighty__mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Easy C. Epic thread this btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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