Coffee_Johnny Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 30 minutes ago, Conjo said: I definitely live in some weird parallell universe where some people see something completely different from what I do. Osula was clearly a better option to Wilson every single time Wilson was subbed on last season simply by being able to run. That he can dribble past players, got a good height to be dangerous on set pieces and has a cracking shot in him are just added bonuses. Besides, he's never shown us he can't be relied on in his rare appearances. Don't understand where this comes from. Is it because of his personality? If you saw them both in training it might give a better sense of why. Though, regardless of training, no doubt Wilson had a lot ‘in the bank’ with Howe to instil confidence that he was the more likely to make things happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 (edited) 9 minutes ago, madras said: Id say if hes not showing what they want in training he'll not get good game time until he does. https://www.geordiebootboys.com/news/eddie-howe-shares-what-he-has-noticed-about-will-osula-in-newcastle-united-training/ - 30 September 2024 “With Will, he’s come in and we were well aware that we would have to go to work as coaches and Will would have to go to work as a player to develop himself and improve every area of his game to become a Premier League striker. “We feel he has the attributes to do that. Very, very quick. Physically excellent. Obviously he’s a tall and imposing character. His best asset is probably running in behind and stretching the line for us. “He’s got some things to smoothen out in his game, but we’ve seen already, certainly from the battles he’s had with our centre-halves in training, that he has an ability to score goals and an ability to have a physical impact on the game and make it uncomfortable for defenders. “We’re working hard with him. He’s working hard himself. His attitude has been excellent. He comes in with a big smile on his face every day. His career and his game is going in the right direction.” https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/clykwjj3d0po - 13 December 2024 Osula's appearances have been sporadic so far, but Howe is backing the Denmark international to contribute in Wilson's absence, citing his physicality as a key asset. "I think it is a huge jump for him, in every way," said Howe. "I have been really, really impressed by him. His attitude to learning is top and he works with a variety of coaches after training to improve. "You don't suddenly land and adjust and become a Premier League striker [but] he is readier than he has ever been and now with Callum out, he has to step up. He is big, quick and strong and there is just that refinement. https://www.geordiebootboys.com/news/eddie-howes-plans-for-william-osula-confirmed-after-newcastle-united-training-admission/ - 2 May 2025 “I think he’s trained pretty consistently all season, and he’s very enthusiastic, very driven. There is still work to do in his game, as there is with every player, but he’s going in the right direction.” Edited July 13, 2025 by Conjo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 1 minute ago, Conjo said: https://www.geordiebootboys.com/news/eddie-howe-shares-what-he-has-noticed-about-will-osula-in-newcastle-united-training/ - 30 September 2024 “With Will, he’s come in and we were well aware that we would have to go to work as coaches and Will would have to go to work as a player to develop himself and improve every area of his game to become a Premier League striker. “We feel he has the attributes to do that. Very, very quick. Physically excellent. Obviously he’s a tall and imposing character. His best asset is probably running in behind and stretching the line for us. “He’s got some things to smoothen out in his game, but we’ve seen already, certainly from the battles he’s had with our centre-halves in training, that he has an ability to score goals and an ability to have a physical impact on the game and make it uncomfortable for defenders. “We’re working hard with him. He’s working hard himself. His attitude has been excellent. He comes in with a big smile on his face every day. His career and his game is going in the right direction.” https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/clykwjj3d0po - 13 December 2024 Osula's appearances have been sporadic so far, but Howe is backing the Denmark international to contribute in Wilson's absence, citing his physicality as a key asset. "I think it is a huge jump for him, in every way," said Howe. "I have been really, really impressed by him. His attitude to learning is top and he works with a variety of coaches after training to improve. "You don't suddenly land and adjust and become a Premier League striker [but] he is readier than he has ever been and now with Callum out, he has to step up. He is big, quick and strong and there is just that refinement. https://www.geordiebootboys.com/news/eddie-howes-plans-for-william-osula-confirmed-after-newcastle-united-training-admission/ “I think he’s trained pretty consistently all season, and he’s very enthusiastic, very driven. There is still work to do in his game, as there is with every player, but he’s going in the right direction.” That seems to back my view Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 Just now, madras said: That seems to back my view It really doesn't Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 Just now, Conjo said: It really doesn't Great attitude but "there is still a lot of work to do in his game"...."got some things to smoothen out in his game"....."its a huge jump for him"..."he's big quick and strong, there's just that refinement" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 25 minutes ago, madras said: Great attitude but "there is still a lot of work to do in his game"...."got some things to smoothen out in his game"....."its a huge jump for him"..."he's big quick and strong, there's just that refinement" Every player in the team has room to improve if you ask Howe. He's consistently said that about the likes of Hall, Livramento, Gordon - heck, even Isak You said Osula probably hadn't shown what they wanted to see in training, and Howe has obviously been happy with what Osula has done there consistently over the whole season so I don't see that as a relevant argument for why he hasn't been given more opportunities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 1 minute ago, Conjo said: Every player in the team has room to improve if you ask Howe. He's consistently said that about the likes of Hall, Livramento, Gordon - heck, even Isak You said Osula probably hadn't shown what they wanted to see in training, and Howe has obviously been happy with what Osula has done there consistently over the whole season so I don't see that as a relevant argument for why he hasn't been given more opportunities. OK then......Howes also going to be complimentary about all the players, so forget all his quotes about Osula. Now......why wouldn't he play him if he is doing what Howe wants ? I've said what I see in Osulas game, basically talent there but still very raw and definitely doesn't carry out the press instructions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 6 minutes ago, madras said: OK then......Howes also going to be complimentary about all the players, so forget all his quotes about Osula. Now......why wouldn't he play him if he is doing what Howe wants ? I've said what I see in Osulas game, basically talent there but still very raw and definitely doesn't carry out the press instructions. Look I love Howe but I also feel he should have been given more minutes, got to remember he also sent Minteh out on loan and I believe he would have done it again if he’d stayed but Brighton proved he was ready. IMO Howes only weakness is his inability to rotate better. Just my opinion though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Gawalls said: Look I love Howe but I also feel he should have been given more minutes, got to remember he also sent Minteh out on loan and I believe he would have done it again if he’d stayed but Brighton proved he was ready. IMO Howes only weakness is his inability to rotate better. Just my opinion though. He sent Minteh out on loan because he was kid coming in from the Danish league and we had 4 players who would get in ahead of him. Also it took a few months at Feyenoord for him to look the part in the Dutch league. We've been through the rotation bit before, he rotated Isak and Wilson until injury stopped it, he rotated Gordon and Barnes (Barnes got injured V Sheff utd playing for a rested Gordon), he brought Murphy in for Almiron in Milan. I think it came down to he could've played Tino instead of Trippier at Wolves. Outside of that, like last season with injuries there weren't many options except in goal. Edited July 13, 2025 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Gawalls said: Look I love Howe but I also feel he should have been given more minutes, got to remember he also sent Minteh out on loan and I believe he would have done it again if he’d stayed but Brighton proved he was ready. IMO Howes only weakness is his inability to rotate better. Just my opinion though. I think it's too early to call it a weakness, he's only had one season with European football during his career and that was sidetracked early on with numerous injuries. We did fine this season with injuries without rotating that much and the squad was still extremely thin. Next season will tell a lot and hopefully show that he has learned from 23/24 even if some of those injuries were just freak accidents and bad luck. Edited July 13, 2025 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 It's just not Eddie's way to put players in if he doesn't feel they are ready. Hall sat on the bench for a year when we had 12 fit senior players, now he's a regular starter and England International. Osula seems to have gone from a certainty to be loaned out to "likely to be kept around" which is either an indication of his progress or our lack of in the transfer market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 9 minutes ago, madras said: He sent Minteh out on loan because he was kid coming in from the Danish league and we had 4 players who would get in ahead of him. Also it took a few months at Feyenoord for him to look the part in the Dutch league. We've been through the rotation bit before, he rotated Isak and Wilson until injury stopped it, he rotated Gordon and Barnes (Barnes got injured V Sheff utd playing for a rested Gordon), he brought Murphy in for Almiron in Milan. I think it came down to he could've played Tino instead of Trippier at Wolves. Outside of that, like last season with injuries there weren't many options except in goal. Barnes and Gordon is something I disagree on as well though, this season Barnes was class when Gordon was out and as soon as Gordon was available Barnes got dropped, thought it was very harsh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted July 13, 2025 Share Posted July 13, 2025 Just now, Gawalls said: Barnes and Gordon is something I disagree on as well though, this season Barnes was class when Gordon was out and as soon as Gordon was available Barnes got dropped, thought it was very harsh. Agree with that and Ive posted many a time about when the both play it HAS to be Gordon (plenty of history playing on the right) on the left and Barnes (little history playing on the right) on the left. It may work in training but hasn't translated in competitive games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki679 Posted July 14, 2025 Share Posted July 14, 2025 Nothing going on with Scalvini then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted July 14, 2025 Share Posted July 14, 2025 3 minutes ago, loki679 said: Nothing going on with Scalvini then? Right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenlau88210 Posted July 14, 2025 Share Posted July 14, 2025 2 hours ago, Gawalls said: Barnes and Gordon is something I disagree on as well though, this season Barnes was class when Gordon was out and as soon as Gordon was available Barnes got dropped, thought it was very harsh. but I recalled towards end of season when Gordon was suspended, Barnes played quite well and kept his place even when Gordon became available again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted July 14, 2025 Share Posted July 14, 2025 6 hours ago, kenlau88210 said: but I recalled towards end of season when Gordon was suspended, Barnes played quite well and kept his place even when Gordon became available again? I may be wrong but I remember it as Gordon came straight back in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker Posted July 14, 2025 Share Posted July 14, 2025 1 minute ago, Gawalls said: I may be wrong but I remember it as Gordon came straight back in Nah, he didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted July 14, 2025 Share Posted July 14, 2025 9 hours ago, Gawalls said: Look I love Howe but I also feel he should have been given more minutes, got to remember he also sent Minteh out on loan and I believe he would have done it again if he’d stayed but Brighton proved he was ready. IMO Howes only weakness is his inability to rotate better. Just my opinion though. Nah Minteh would’ve stayed if he wasn’t sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaj Posted July 14, 2025 Share Posted July 14, 2025 4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Nah Minteh would’ve stayed if he wasn’t sold. Agreed, I think we would have moved the Almiron sale forward 6 months and gone with Murphy and Minteh as our RW options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted July 14, 2025 Share Posted July 14, 2025 I'm extra-optimistic this season because I think if we get a new CB, new striker and perhaps another central midfield player in, Eddie will be able to rotate without significantly weakening the team. He's not had that luxury before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunk Moreland Posted July 14, 2025 Share Posted July 14, 2025 2 minutes ago, Cronky said: I'm extra-optimistic this season because I think if we get a new CB, new striker and perhaps another central midfield player in, Eddie will be able to rotate without significantly weakening the team. He's not had that luxury before. I'm also excited that the new recruits, if we get them, will allow us to play in new ways and switch things up when a tactical change is needed to win the game. Feels like something we've not been able to do consistently under Howe yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bondedcrown Posted July 14, 2025 Share Posted July 14, 2025 1 minute ago, Bunk Moreland said: I'm also excited that the new recruits, if we get them, will allow us to play in new ways and switch things up when a tactical change is needed to win the game. Feels like something we've not been able to do consistently under Howe yet. You don't watch many games then? You say it FEELS like! Can't you tell us exactly how this shoulkd be? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunk Moreland Posted July 18, 2025 Share Posted July 18, 2025 When it rains... "Atalanta, Percassi says no to Newcastle's €60 million for Scalvini: "Unsellable." Not sure if it's a reliable source or what the actual article says, can't find a way to un-paywall it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted July 18, 2025 Share Posted July 18, 2025 What a f**king week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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