Yoane Wissa

[Kid Icarus]

1 minute ago, Displayname said:

I dont know which examples you are thinking of. But I know it didnt get the selling club out of the PSR jam we currently are in. So again, not comparable.

We're not in a PSR jam, and we don't need to sell Isak to a direct rival this summer in order to get out of it.

 

 

Edited August 3, 2025 by Kid Icarus

[Displayname]

Just now, Coffee_Johnny said:

Does this come as a revelation to you? Or do you think it supports that teams in the same league who play each other at least twice a season are not in competition with each other, are ‘rivals’; regardless of how realistic their aspirations of success in such competitions are. 

Follow the discussion bro..

[Nobody]

22 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Liverpool aren’t our rivals, nor are they likely to be any time soon

Certainly felt like our rivals when we beat them in the cup final. 

[Yorkie]

Just now, Kid Icarus said:

We're not in a PSR jam.

 

PSR has the whole division pickled in aspic, let alone jam.

[Coffee_Johnny]

Just now, Displayname said:

Follow the discussion bro..

Read a dictionary, patronising pal. 

[Displayname]

2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

We're not in a PSR jam, and we don't need to sell Isak to a direct rival this summer in order to get out of it.

 

 

 

What else is holding us back?

[Kid Icarus]

Just now, Yorkie said:

 

PSR has the whole division pickled in aspic, let alone jam.

For the purposes of the argument that we need to sell our best player to a domestic rival right now, we're not remotely in a PSR jam.

[Stottie]

Liverpool did all right by selling Torres to Chelsea, but only because he was crocked and the electric pace was gone. It sounded like Abramovitch wanted him like a trinket.

 

Isak has many more tools in his locker and unless our medical people know something, is not in decline. 

[Kid Icarus]

1 minute ago, Displayname said:

What else is holding us back?

Ineptitude.

[Displayname]

3 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

Read a dictionary, patronising pal. 

You're serious? 🤣

 

 

 

 

Edited August 3, 2025 by Displayname

[J7]

1 minute ago, Displayname said:

What else is holding us back?

We’ve got plenty of PSR headroom and barely spent anything yet given the out goings.

[Coffee_Johnny]

Just now, Displayname said:

Your serious? 🤣

 

 

And a book on grammar. 

[Displayname]

2 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

And a book on grammar. 

But i'm the patronising one?

 

I'm not embarrased by not getting every spelling right, English isn't my first language.

 

 

Edited August 3, 2025 by Displayname

[Gawalls]

19 minutes ago, nufc4eva said:

I think we are downplaying what Wissa could offer in our team next season, hes quality.

Agreed- referring to the highest open play goal scorer in the premier league last season, 19 goals and none are penalties, Brentford’s highest ever premier goal scorer and a man whose still single single figures for premier league games missed due to injury as “a last resort” is a massive case of self entitlement for me. So what if he is a step down from Isak, who the fuck isn’t. And on top of that he’s done all of this for around 30 grand a week and been cool about it until we came knocking. I want him - end of as far as I’m concerned.

[Yorkie]

2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

For the purposes of the argument that we need to sell our best player to a domestic rival right now, we're not remotely in a PSR jam.

 

But it dictates every single decision we make so we're therefore constantly in a jam. If we're selling to Liverpool now it's because the decision makers at the club prefer the certainty of an enormous fee now, and the guarantees that brings, as opposed to an unknown fee in a year's time. Meanwhile it's Liverpool's own PSR situation which has them at the table now and not earlier/later.

 

There's probably an argument that they'd think the same way without PSR tbh but its existence clearly softens the reluctance to sell. 

[duo]

1 hour ago, Shadow Puppets said:

Woke up to texts from a few of the usual sources saying we’re pushing really hard to get this agreed in the next 72 hours. They want him in for the weekend.

 

(All usual caveats apply… I’m just passing on some info from decent sources)

 

EDIT: seems like Craig Hope has had similar information… 

 

 

 

 

it is 15 mins of him justifying him flip / flopping around what he is reporting

[TRon]

2 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

But it dictates every single decision we make so we're therefore constantly in a jam. If we're selling to Liverpool now it's because the decision makers at the club prefer the certainty of an enormous fee now, and the guarantees that brings, as opposed to an unknown fee in a year's time. Meanwhile it's Liverpool's own PSR situation which has them at the table now and not earlier/later.

 

There's probably an argument that they'd think the same way without PSR tbh but its existence clearly softens the reluctance to sell. 

 

 

Agree. 

 

PSR might not matter now, but the way it is set up, you can't afford to sleep on it, as we found out when we had to sell Minteh and Anderson in a hurry. 

 

 

[STM]

Hope seemed clear in his reporting to me.

 

Wissa he expects to happen.

Sesko its down to the player.

If we get Sesko, Liverpool will be back.

[1964]

We'd best get a move on, this guys our starting CF against Villa

[TheBrownBottle]

36 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Bollocks.

They aren’t, like.  They’re just another PL club which happens to be vastly more successful - on what terms are they our ‘rivals’?

[Stottie]

I think folk are going 2+2=5 off Liverpool winning the league once in an off year for Man City.

 

Next season is no Trent, no Diaz, no Jota, no Robertson (candidate for best LB in PL era) if Kerkez plays, potentially no Konate.

They're all completely proven high-level Premier League players.

So far, all they have is two bods from the Bundesliga to score Diaz and Jota's goals.

I reckon they will be much more desperate to get Isak in than the online chorus is suggesting. Isak would be the top half of the cake, not just the icing on it.

 

[TheBrownBottle]

18 minutes ago, Nobody said:

Certainly felt like our rivals when we beat them in the cup final. 

Then every team we play each week are our rivals.

 

There’s fuck all rivalry with Liverpool. 

[Kid Icarus]

6 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

But it dictates every single decision we make so we're therefore constantly in a jam. If we're selling to Liverpool now it's because the decision makers at the club prefer the certainty of an enormous fee now, and the guarantees that brings, as opposed to an unknown fee in a year's time. Meanwhile it's Liverpool's own PSR situation which has them at the table now and not earlier/later.

 

There's probably an argument that they'd think the same way without PSR tbh but its existence clearly softens the reluctance to sell. 

Yorkie your PSR specs are taking you to some mad places.

 

PSR doesn't distate whether financially we need to sell Isak now or in a year. There's no unknown on whether clubs will be in the market for nigh on the best striker out there or not, of course they will be. 

[STM]

Just now, TheBrownBottle said:

They aren’t, like.  They’re just another PL club which happens to be vastly more successful - on what terms are they our ‘rivals’?

 

We play in the same league as them.

We played in a cup final against them.

We weren't far away from finishing one place below them.

 

By giving them Isak. The gap widens. With Sesko the gap still widens, just slightly less.

[duo]

5 minutes ago, STM said:

Hope seemed clear in his reporting to me.

Friday - exclusive Liverpool bid rejected

Saturday - exclusive Liverpool low balling shows they were stringing Isak a long

Sunday - exclusive Liverpool will be back with a second bit and I expect it to happen