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16 minutes ago, LFEE said:

 

Your inability to understand how transfers work if i remember correctly :lol:

 

I’ve never once said the players weren’t getting offered more money from Man Utd or Liverpool (Or Chelsea or Man City… pick whichever deal!) but as for bidding for players NUFC have not been outbid to the selling club yet but ultimately with every transfer it gets to the stage the selling club in a player auction they will be happy with either deal and let the player choose, especially when the player has a definitive preference which was the case with Ekitke and Sesko and Pedro. Trafford situation different because he’d signed a legal contract to return to Man City 2yrs prior if Man City revoked their buy back/match bid clause which they did.

 

PS Get the black car, it will make them happy and easier to settle and negotiate the loyalty clause etc from the players and agent side which you still have to do as a selling club. 

 

The fucks all that got to do with the relative value of two proposed addon deals? 

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45 minutes ago, LFEE said:

 

Because your deals I’m guessing aren’t human beings? [emoji38]

 

Scenario:

 

Your son/daughter wants a car and you’ve set aside a budget of £20k…

 

They go shopping with you and tell you the type of car they really want which you find two available and you are pleased to find out that they will only cost £10k of your budget. One black one white.

 

White one is £10k interest free over 24 months. The Black one is £10,500 interest free over 12 months. 

 

Your son/daughter not keen on white at all and only happy with black.

 

Which one you going to get them?

 

That’s a good example…..if the owner of the club is selling a player who is his son/daughter.

Swap son/daughter for ‘employee’ - white car, every time.

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Just now, madras said:

You're saying that the largest deal always wins. We are saying it doesn't ?

 

 

 

 

I am saying that the value of 2 proposed deals are the same to the seller and the buying club frames it for PR reasons.

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59 minutes ago, Adam P said:

 

Makes no sense that as that would imply no leverage on the seller's behalf and the player could force a move at a lower and lower price, whilst driving up his salary. 

 

Of course it doesn’t make any sense… this is footballers we are talking about!:lol:

 

Apologies if you already know this but footballers DON’T pay their OWN players union fees the clubs are forced to pay them. They also DON’T pay their OWN agents the clubs pay for them also. Even when a club has paid a players contract up as it comes to an end and the player is free the club HAS to pay them player another months salary if that player doesn’t find and sign for a club in that month.

 

As @McDog succinctly put it. The deal is dead unless it’s the team the player wants to go to these days ultimately. Hence why clubs try to find out if the player has any interest in joining in the first place via the agent and the games and lies begin.

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4 minutes ago, Choppy Chop Chop said:

Some bollocks on facebook saying hes signing for Al Hilal and being loaned to us for two years 

 

 

 


I wonder how many years will pass before people give up on the idea of Saudi league clubs doing us favours.

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Just now, Adam P said:

 

I am saying that the value of 2 proposed deals are the same to the seller and the buying club frames it for PR reasons.

The seller wouldn't sell for a lesser price if that was the only one the player wanted?

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5 minutes ago, madras said:

The seller wouldn't sell for a lesser price if that was the only one the player wanted?

 

 

They are forced to evaluate if the lower offer is good enough or deemed unacceptable. The other higher offer is already dead as a door nail because the player won't go there.

 

 

In what other business does the thing being sold have the ability to nix the deal? A car can't say "sorry mate, I'm not going with him, he looks like a loser. Take the lower offer".

 

 

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1 minute ago, McDog said:

 

 

They are forced to evaluate if the lower offer is good enough or deemed unacceptable. The other higher offer is already dead as a door nail because the player won't go there.

 

 

In what other business does the thing being sold have the ability to nix the deal? A car can't say "sorry mate, I'm not going with him, he looks like a loser. Take the lower offer".

 

 

Exackerly!

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1 hour ago, Adam P said:

 

Because it makes no sense for the selling club to accept a lower overall offer for a player. I dont struggle to understand anything mate, i work on deals bigger than the ones we discuss on here, hence the bit in bold seems like utter fluff to me.

I bet you've got a fancy briefcase. 

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Just now, Crayola Kid said:

Didn't we end up with ballon d'or winner Sir Michael Owen by out-bidding Liverpool despite being the players (distant) second choice?

 

That worked out well

 

Rafa wasn't keen to have him back though was he? Or am I misremembering?

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Just now, Crayola Kid said:

Didn't we end up with ballon d'or winner Sir Michael Owen by out-bidding Liverpool despite being the players (distant) second choice?

 

That worked out well

Because Real Madrid were in a position to say its the highest bid or you stay. Each scenario is different.

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Just now, madras said:

Possibly but their need wasn't as great as his to get some games to benefit England.

This is taking me back to Souness saying he had Anelka lined up that summer, only for the club to buy Owen against his wishes. Sliding doors. Are we there again this year?

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1 hour ago, Choppy Chop Chop said:

Some bollocks on facebook saying hes signing for Al Hilal and being loaned to us for two years 

 

 

 

 

I think that may have come off the back of a couple of twitter posts from people joking about what "BlueCo" have done and how we should do the same but we can't because the Premier League would stop it immediately.

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