OoOGazOoO Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 21 minutes ago, Dokko said: He should be the 1st piece of the move to technical possession based football, and we build a team to fit around him. Instead it feels like we'll cast him and that plan aside for more running due to being back to 1 game a week. I really don't get this 'build the team around him' talk. He's technically pretty good, but I don't think we should be building a team around him. He has obvious quality but I question whether he can do it on a consistent basis in the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills and Boon Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 This thread is mental. One good pass in 20mins of football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, OoOGazOoO said: I really don't get this 'build the team around him' talk. He's technically pretty good, but I don't think we should be building a team around him. He has obvious quality but I question whether he can do it on a consistent basis in the PL. Structured correctly he’d be a key ingredient if we changed from the usual play it wide, back into the middle and back out wide as we have been with nothing being created. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
black_n_white Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 6 minutes ago, Mills and Boon said: This thread is mental. One good pass in 20mins of football For me it’s the signs of potential. Some of these bums haven’t shown even one good pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 11 minutes ago, Mills and Boon said: This thread is mental. One good pass in 20mins of football Thing is, he was constantly asking for the ball between the lines. That is an area where we have no one and we only play through the wings. There is no point having a player who can create something like that, if our players are unable to play the pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 15 minutes ago, Mills and Boon said: This thread is mental. One good pass in 20mins of football One clear goalscoring opportunity made in 20 mins of football. 70 minutes of nowt before that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 17 minutes ago, Mills and Boon said: This thread is mental. One good pass in 20mins of football Guess it just shows how starved we are of watching exciting football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaj Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 4-2-3-1 for the rest of the season with Bruno and Tonali sitting and Woltemade in behind Wissa. The two of them seem to have a connection from the limited times they have played together (albeit with Wissa missing every chance Nick gives him) and then Gordon and Osula on the wings. Keep Murphy and Elanga away from the pitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 11 minutes ago, Vaj said: 4-2-3-1 for the rest of the season with Bruno and Tonali sitting and Woltemade in behind Wissa. The two of them seem to have a connection from the limited times they have played together (albeit with Wissa missing every chance Nick gives him) and then Gordon and Osula on the wings. Keep Murphy and Elanga away from the pitch Honestly thought this was Howe’s plan B this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leemond Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Going to be fucking livid when he gets sold in the summer, then Howe gets sacked 4 games into the season, always wondering what could have been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Mills and Boon said: This thread is mental. One good pass in 20mins of football doesn’t matter. It’s about a different player in a team that is utterly devoid of creativity. He clearly has something. you can be Howe in or out but I don’t think it can be up for argument that we should have seen more of Woltemade in these last few games. Edited April 25 by Stuy_O Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 4 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Honestly thought this was Howe’s plan B this season. Except we all know what Plan B is... There isn't one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Magpie Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 46 minutes ago, OoOGazOoO said: I really don't get this 'build the team around him' talk. He's technically pretty good, but I don't think we should be building a team around him. He has obvious quality but I question whether he can do it on a consistent basis in the PL. Lucky for you, we’ll never know if he can do it consistently. He’ll never be given that chance. Because he doesn’t run around like a madman on the practice pitch apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 That last paragraph is telling - the comment on needing your best players available to deliver the style of football he wants. Basically it's a style for the first 11 and not for the squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 27 minutes ago, HawK said: Except we all know what Plan B is... There isn't one He says this but we play boring fooball and we regularly go backwards when in good positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monters Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) 1 hour ago, DC Magpie said: Lucky for you, we’ll never know if he can do it consistently. He’ll never be given that chance. Because he doesn’t run around like a madman on the practice pitch apparently. I’d like to think a record signing that hasn’t that great a history in top flight football would have the hunger and pride to show his worth in training. Team sport is fairly simple, you’re not playing then prove you should be! Messi, Ronaldo, Shearer, Giggs, Keane all famously shite in training Edited April 25 by Monters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monters Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 hours ago, Dokko said: He should be the 1st piece of the move to technical possession based football, and we build a team to fit around him. Instead it feels like we'll cast him and that plan aside for more running due to being back to 1 game a week. Genuinely curious, what do you mean by technical possession based football? Unless I’ve misread the dreaded stats, very possible, in the last 3 losses we have had more possession in each game but have created little. Would the aim be to be like City? They amaze and annoy me in equal measure… I despise Liverpool but some of the football they played under Klopp was undeniably brilliant and again could be wrong but they didn’t always dominate the ball. PSG are probably the best team to watch at the moment ironically unless they play us! But we’d need a massive spend to get to their level… Apologies for the long winded post! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danh1 Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 hours ago, Mills and Boon said: This thread is mental. One good pass in 20mins of football One more than many of them have made for weeks, first decent chance we created all afternoon. From the cart horse who can’t get in the side. Played out of position, hung out to dry in Howe’s boring 4-3-3. No wonder it’s attracting discussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monters Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 4 minutes ago, Danh1 said: One more than many of them have made for weeks, first decent chance we created all afternoon. From the cart horse who can’t get in the side. Played out of position, hung out to dry in Howe’s boring 4-3-3. No wonder it’s attracting discussion. What about the 1 v 1 in the first couple of minutes or the chance Bruno fucked up from the edge of the box mid way through the first half? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagPar Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 4 hours ago, The Prophet said: We have one of the best player development coaches going. He's in good hands. He's clearly not. Apologies if you were being sarcastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OverThere Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 (edited) 2 hours ago, Vaj said: 4-2-3-1 for the rest of the season with Bruno and Tonali sitting and Woltemade in behind Wissa. The two of them seem to have a connection from the limited times they have played together (albeit with Wissa missing every chance Nick gives him) and then Gordon and Osula on the wings. Keep Murphy and Elanga away from the pitch Wolte behind Osula instead of wissa for me. Edited April 25 by OverThere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 Just now, MagPar said: He's clearly not. Apologies if you were being sarcastic. So Hall, Tino, Joelinton, Murphy, Burn, Isak, Gordon & Tonali (last season) haven't all improved under Howe? NB: There's probably more... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcmk Posted April 25 Share Posted April 25 2 minutes ago, MagPar said: He's clearly not. Apologies if you were being sarcastic. Might be something in that. His cameo's have looked better recently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack14Bojangles Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 5 hours ago, OverThere said: Looked decent. We should try 4-2-3-1 with him behind OSULA That won't happen under Howe. Eddie is resistant to learning and clings to his unsuccessful concept. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack14Bojangles Posted April 26 Share Posted April 26 Howe and Wolte are a bad match. Nick should leave the club if Eddie remains the coach. He's too good to be on the bench. Furthermore, he'll ruin his national team career if he continues to get too little playing time under Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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