stozo Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 21 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: Fabregas or Alonso would be the dream, think they would both help attract players and generate some real excitement around the club. This is kind of what frustrates me about the managerial options discussion - neither of them would come here and even if they would, they'd be the wrong choice. Both are fundamentally unobtainable (for various reasons) but why on earth would we appoint either of the two people who will be the number 1 choices for the Liverpool, Arsenal and Barcelona jobs respectively? You could literally appoint Fabregas, he has a wonderful season where we finish 3rd and get CL again, and then Flick retires from Barcelona and he's on his way and we're back to square one. One of the many things I love about Eddie Howe is he has shown absolutely no sign of betraying us - at various points he could have had his agent out there talking him up for the Chelsea, Man U etc. jobs and there has never even been a hint of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 (edited) 20 minutes ago, stozo said: This is kind of what frustrates me about the managerial options discussion - neither of them would come here and even if they would, they'd be the wrong choice. Both are fundamentally unobtainable (for various reasons) but why on earth would we appoint either of the two people who will be the number 1 choices for the Liverpool, Arsenal and Barcelona jobs respectively? You could literally appoint Fabregas, he has a wonderful season where we finish 3rd and get CL again, and then Flick retires from Barcelona and he's on his way and we're back to square one. One of the many things I love about Eddie Howe is he has shown absolutely no sign of betraying us - at various points he could have had his agent out there talking him up for the Chelsea, Man U etc. jobs and there has never even been a hint of that. Let’s imagine Alonso comes here, does a Leverkusen again, wins the league and we have an unbeaten season. Who gives a fuck if he leaves after that. I’d be too busy bathing in a lake of my own jizz to give one solitary shite. Edited April 23 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills and Boon Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 19 minutes ago, stozo said: This is kind of what frustrates me about the managerial options discussion - neither of them would come here and even if they would, they'd be the wrong choice. Both are fundamentally unobtainable (for various reasons) but why on earth would we appoint either of the two people who will be the number 1 choices for the Liverpool, Arsenal and Barcelona jobs respectively? You could literally appoint Fabregas, he has a wonderful season where we finish 3rd and get CL again, and then Flick retires from Barcelona and he's on his way and we're back to square one. One of the many things I love about Eddie Howe is he has shown absolutely no sign of betraying us - at various points he could have had his agent out there talking him up for the Chelsea, Man U etc. jobs and there has never even been a hint of that. I don't think we'll ever get out of that position. The only certainty with managers or players is that they'll leave at some point. Can't blame them for wanting to move on to bigger and better. You'd like to think that even if those coming in are looking at the club as a stepping stone they'd at least be around for a few years though. I don't think it's worth worrying about too much, as long as they improve the club while they're here and we've a succession plan in place for when they do an Isak, get the best in that are available to us. Spoiler It's Howe. It's always been Howe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 42 minutes ago, stozo said: This is kind of what frustrates me about the managerial options discussion - neither of them would come here and even if they would, they'd be the wrong choice. Both are fundamentally unobtainable (for various reasons) but why on earth would we appoint either of the two people who will be the number 1 choices for the Liverpool, Arsenal and Barcelona jobs respectively? You could literally appoint Fabregas, he has a wonderful season where we finish 3rd and get CL again, and then Flick retires from Barcelona and he's on his way and we're back to square one. One of the many things I love about Eddie Howe is he has shown absolutely no sign of betraying us - at various points he could have had his agent out there talking him up for the Chelsea, Man U etc. jobs and there has never even been a hint of that. 100%, Howe needs our support not boos, we could end up searching for a manager all summer and get Scott Parker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curva Sud Milano Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 35 minutes ago, stozo said: This is kind of what frustrates me about the managerial options discussion - neither of them would come here and even if they would, they'd be the wrong choice. Both are fundamentally unobtainable (for various reasons) but why on earth would we appoint either of the two people who will be the number 1 choices for the Liverpool, Arsenal and Barcelona jobs respectively? You could literally appoint Fabregas, he has a wonderful season where we finish 3rd and get CL again, and then Flick retires from Barcelona and he's on his way and we're back to square one. One of the many things I love about Eddie Howe is he has shown absolutely no sign of betraying us - at various points he could have had his agent out there talking him up for the Chelsea, Man U etc. jobs and there has never even been a hint of that. I disagree...you always forget that the PL is the center of the world and even though you are not a top-tier team, you remain more attractive than many European Clubs that have more "history" or trophies than you. Aside from those two or three really big names (Ancelotti, Guardiola), I don't see why a Fabregas, Alonso, Inzaghi, or Mancini wouldn't accept a job at Newcastle!!! And if they don't accept it's because they're not convinced by the owners' project, certainly not because your club isn't attractive. Oh, about Fabregas... Inter had chosen him to replace Inzaghi, and he said "No thanks, I'm staying at Como another season." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 34 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Let’s imagine Alonso comes here, does a Leverkusen again, wins the league and we have an unbeaten season. Who gives a fuck if he leaves after that. I’d be too busy bathing in a lake of my own jizz to give one solitary shite. I'd be happy to have Alonso or Fabregas on a short term basis if I thought they were actually obtainable. If only because I think they would actually fit a football philosophy which might take the club forward. But I think Liverpool will be ahead of us for Alonso, and Arsenal will be ahead of us for Fabregas if push comes to shove. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 13 minutes ago, Curva Sud Milano said: I disagree...you always forget that the PL is the center of the world and even though you are not a top-tier team, you remain more attractive than many European Clubs that have more "history" or trophies than you. Aside from those two or three really big names (Ancelotti, Guardiola), I don't see why a Fabregas, Alonso, Inzaghi, or Mancini wouldn't accept a job at Newcastle!!! And if they don't accept it's because they're not convinced by the owners' project, certainly not because your club isn't attractive. Oh, about Fabregas... Inter had chosen him to replace Inzaghi, and he said "No thanks, I'm staying at Como another season." 100%. When I was younger, Serie A was comfortably the world’s best and most attractive league - it’s where all the best players and managers wanted to be. This meant that it didn’t have to be Milan, Inter or Juve to be an attractive proposition - Sampdoria, Fiorentina, Lazio, Roma, even Parma could attract elite managers and players easily. The likes of Bari and Genoa could attract big names and pay big salaries. This applies to the PL today - and NUFC would be more attractive than all but five clubs in the PL, which means it would comfortably be among the fifteen most attractive jobs on the planet. The PL having so many of the richest clubs skews people’s view of the club in terms of its standing - for example, if NUFC went knocking at the door of any manager in the Bundesliga outside of Bayern, they’d likely listen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWZ Posted April 23 Share Posted April 23 Benfica are currently unbeaten in the league with 5 games remaining. The notion that Mourinho is finished is crazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills and Boon Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 21 minutes ago, WWZ said: Benfica are currently unbeaten in the league with 5 games remaining. The notion that Mourinho is finished is crazy. The Portuguese league is dog shit now though isn't it? It's a far cry from him taking Porto to the Champions League final and winning it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 hours ago, stozo said: This is kind of what frustrates me about the managerial options discussion - neither of them would come here and even if they would, they'd be the wrong choice. Both are fundamentally unobtainable (for various reasons) but why on earth would we appoint either of the two people who will be the number 1 choices for the Liverpool, Arsenal and Barcelona jobs respectively? You could literally appoint Fabregas, he has a wonderful season where we finish 3rd and get CL again, and then Flick retires from Barcelona and he's on his way and we're back to square one. One of the many things I love about Eddie Howe is he has shown absolutely no sign of betraying us - at various points he could have had his agent out there talking him up for the Chelsea, Man U etc. jobs and there has never even been a hint of that. Why is Alonso unattainable? He's fairly inexperienced, he's out of work, and his last job didn't go plan. Fabregas is an inexperienced coach and at a small club in Italy. He's still cutting his teeth is the coaching world. How is he unattainable? We are one of the biggest clubs in the biggest league in the world. A League that attracted Ancelotti go to Everton and he's a far bigger managerial name than both of them. You could also argue that Emery is as well, as a manager, and he went to Villa. We aren't the NUFC of the Mike Ashley era. We're one of the biggest spenders in the league now. Our title of balance sheet champions is well and truely lost. If and when Howe leaves we won't end up with a Joe Kinnear, Alan Pardew or Steve Bruce type appointment I'm pretty certain of that. Aside from all that, what makes you think they both be the wrong choice and if Howe did leave who would you like to see come in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 hours ago, WWZ said: Benfica are currently unbeaten in the league with 5 games remaining. The notion that Mourinho is finished is crazy. Amorim was brilliant at Benfica, absolutely hopeless in the prem. Mourinho is finished at the top level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) Regardless of whether Alonso or Fabregas would come here, what sort of Chicken Little mentality does it take to have the viewpoint of “don’t appoint a highly rated up and coming manager who might be successful here and then go to a bigger club than NUFC”. Absolutely mind boggling. Edited April 24 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Regardless of whether Alonso or Farbegas would come here, what sort of Chicken Little mentality does it take to have the viewpoint of “don’t appoint a highly rated up and coming manager who might be successful here and then go to a bigger club than NUFC”. Absolutely mind boggling. Your over thinking it, plenty of people are basically Howe > anyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) 7 minutes ago, r0cafella said: Your over thinking it, plenty of people are basically Howe > anyone else. Was about to press the Like button on your post but then I spotted the Your Edited April 24 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramgram Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Filippo Inzaghi Would be my first choice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 13 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Regardless of whether Alonso or Fabregas would come here, what sort of Chicken Little mentality does it take to have the viewpoint of “don’t appoint a highly rated up and coming manager who might be successful here and then go to a bigger club than NUFC”. Absolutely mind boggling. Exactly, some people are the same with players. Might as well just wrap it all in and sign a load of shite and be managed by bums* forever. *Feel like it's best to clarify I am not implying Howe is a bum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Gramgram said: Filippo Inzaghi Would be my first choice Not Simone? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramgram Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, Collage said: Not Simone? Personally yes I would take Simone, I don’t think fans would accept the type of football played though. The same could also be said about Inzaghi though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Gramgram said: Personally yes I would take Simone, I don’t think fans would accept the type of football played though. The same could also be said about Inzaghi though. Think he means Simone Inzaghi, the ex Inter manager, rather than Pippo Inzaghi who manages Serie B Palermo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilcline Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, Gramgram said: Personally yes I would take Simone, I don’t think fans would accept the type of football played though. The same could also be said about Inzaghi though. I think he meant Simone Inzaghi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 6 minutes ago, Kilcline said: I think he meant Simone Inzaghi Was just wondering to myself if we’d ever had a manager with a unisex first name. Then I remembered Eddie Monsoon out of Ab Fab. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I for one welcome our new overload Jose. But I did also just win the lottery and bought a time machine to steal him from 2006. It. Is. Happening. All that said, I'm not totally convinced they won't actually make a play for him. He will appeal to the Saudis. In respect to the comments in younger names using us as a stepping stone, Mourinho wouldn't. I just think he would inevitably not last long and fall out with everyone or get bored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gramgram Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 16 minutes ago, Nucasol said: Think he means Simone Inzaghi, the ex Inter manager, rather than Pippo Inzaghi who manages Serie B Palermo. 15 minutes ago, Kilcline said: I think he meant Simone Inzaghi 8 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Was just wondering to myself if we’d ever had a manager with a unisex first name. Then I remembered Eddie Monsoon out of Ab Fab. My bad sorry, yes I ment Simone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 44 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Was just wondering to myself if we’d ever had a manager with a unisex first name. Then I remembered Eddie Monsoon out of Ab Fab. No relation to Monsoon Moon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 50 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said: Was just wondering to myself if we’d ever had a manager with a unisex first name. Then I remembered Eddie Monsoon out of Ab Fab. If we’re allowing shortened forms, then we’ve had a few: Sam Charlie Chris Terry Willie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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