Kid Icarus Posted Wednesday at 23:26 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:26 Just now, r0cafella said: We don't buck trends though, let's be honest here. We haven't beaten the cartel to any senior players. We always got the scraps left behind not competed with them. We've got to them before they've had time to act. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted Wednesday at 23:27 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:27 Maybe this is a smoke screen to get Pardo or Nusa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Wednesday at 23:27 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:27 1 minute ago, Kanj said: Munoz isn’t close to Pedro, Ekitke or Sesko either by the way. He’s not even as heralded as Yan Diomande. Eh? It's not about comparing him. It's about value at the profile they all want. The Diomande comparison is interesting because he costs twice as much and Liverpool aren't in a position to pay that and do the rebuild despite what the daft media print. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted Wednesday at 23:28 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:28 Just now, Kid Icarus said: We've got to them before they've had time to act. Exactly which broadly means not penny pinching when it comes to doing a deal with the selling club and making sure the Agent is happy. Get either of them wrong and it’s then public knowledge and we lose the player. No shit, we’re better off overpaying by 10% for every signing and just signing one less player per window tbh… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Wednesday at 23:28 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:28 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: We've got to them before they've had time to act. Who did we get before they had time to act? Isak was linked with arsenal for years before we got him. They obviously passed particularly after that last season in Spain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted Wednesday at 23:28 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:28 Just now, r0cafella said: Who did we get before they had time to act? Isak was linked with arsenal for years before we got him. They obviously passed particularly after that last season in Spain. Tonali. And, in hindsight, that was probably because he was damaged goods and we didn’t know… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted Wednesday at 23:28 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:28 4 minutes ago, Kanj said: @oldtype are you actually being serious about the fiduciary responsibilities of football agents? It’s one of the most unregulated forms of work. Isak’s rep not teach you anything? The fucking guy was banned from certain clubs. Agents act in the best interests of agents. It’s the oldest trick in the book. It’s bent as fuck. I do often make the mistake of assuming that others in the professional services industry actually take their ethical obligations seriously. But regardless, no we shouldn't be in the business of effectively bribing agents to act against their client's interest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted Wednesday at 23:29 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:29 Just now, Minhosa said: Tonali. And, in hindsight, that was probably because he was damaged goods and we didn’t know… You're answering your own question here. There was a reason we were able to sign him. And we paid for it in the form of losing out on a year of service. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted Wednesday at 23:29 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:29 PIF I tell you how you fix this - can you go and get Barcola now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted Wednesday at 23:30 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:30 (edited) Not gonna lie I didn't really know a whole pile about him but it was good to see us trying to get our business done early. Of course another one of these fucking six clubs just swoops in though. Gonna be another long summer of this shite I fear. Honestly this shit should make the club close the door on cunts like City and Spurs trying to get Tonali. If you wanna go, go to mainland Europe, fuck selling to one of those wankers. Edited Wednesday at 23:31 by Decky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Wednesday at 23:30 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:30 Just now, Minhosa said: Tonali. And, in hindsight, that was probably because he was damaged goods and we didn’t know… Nobody was in for Tonali though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_cowell141 Posted Wednesday at 23:30 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:30 3 minutes ago, Kanj said: Maybe this is a smoke screen to get Pardo or Nusa? Wishful thinking, I fear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted Wednesday at 23:30 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:30 I think I need to read another Mark Douglas piece about the long-term strategy firmly in place this summer etc etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted Wednesday at 23:30 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:30 3 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: We've got to them before they've had time to act. This is literally impossible. The only way to do so is to buy developing players before the cartel are even interested, which is what we did with Hall and Livramento. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted Wednesday at 23:30 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:30 Just now, oldtype said: You're answering your own question here. There was a reason we were able to sign him. And we paid for it in the form of losing out on a year of service. Not the case with Bruno or Hall or Tino or Pope though was it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Wednesday at 23:31 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:31 These prices when we get our Tonali bag are going to be crazy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted Wednesday at 23:31 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:31 Just now, oldtype said: This is literally impossible. The only way to do so is to buy developing players before the cartel are even interested, which is what we did with Hall and Livramento. Bruno is literally the perfect example of what he’s saying. Arsenal wanted him. We moved more quickly. Or maybe his agent should’ve just waited…. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted Wednesday at 23:32 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:32 8 minutes ago, Kanj said: @oldtype are you actually being serious about the fiduciary responsibilities of football agents? It’s one of the most unregulated forms of work. Isak’s rep not teach you anything? The fucking guy was banned from certain clubs. Agents act in the best interests of agents. It’s the oldest trick in the book. It’s bent as fuck. Amen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted Wednesday at 23:32 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:32 I think there’s a lot of young left wingers out there getting linked with moves, and I have no idea if Muñoz is really a bigger prospect than Moreira, Godts, or Abde. His highlights didn’t really blow me away, not that that means much. If the window drags on and more of these players get snatched I’ll start to worry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted Wednesday at 23:32 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:32 Maybe we should have a third list from which to monitor. Concerned as we really could do without a setback and we’ve got one about 5 mins into the window. Worth remembering that none of us will never know the real reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted Wednesday at 23:33 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:33 Just now, Minhosa said: Not the case with Bruno or Hall or Tino or Pope though was it? Yes, because two of those players we bought when they were developing prospects that weren't drawing interest from any cartel clubs (Hall we literally bought from one). Pope was never good enough for any of those clubs to be interested. I don't even recall how much interest there was in Bruno out there when he moved but the fact that we really need to grasp at straws to find even one or two examples of us (or any other non-cartel club for that matter) beating a cartel club to a signing tells you how hard it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted Wednesday at 23:33 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:33 Just now, Kimbo said: I think there’s a lot of young left wingers out there getting linked with moves, and I have no idea if Muñoz is really a bigger prospect than Moreira, Godts, or Abde. His highlights didn’t really blow me away, not that that means much. If the window drags on and more of these players get snatched I’ll start to worry. As I mentioned last summer, we can eat when the big fish are done feeding and get what they leave behind. Abde might be a goer especially as he's just got injured but he's more expensive Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted Wednesday at 23:34 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:34 Just now, Theregulars said: Maybe we should have a third list from which to monitor. Concerned as we really could do without a setback and we’ve got one about 5 mins into the window. Worth remembering that none of us will never know the real reason. I mean, it's June. It sucks that this happened but it's not as if we're in August and bidding 55m for Yoan Wissa again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted Wednesday at 23:35 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:35 I wish I had the willpower not to look at anything until the start of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted Wednesday at 23:35 Share Posted Wednesday at 23:35 Literally just about to go to bed, just before I’m about to put my phone on charge I get an Athletic notification about this. What a fucking embarrassment that this has happened again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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