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Ferdinands unfortunate he's born in a country where a classy interception is seen as a lesser peice of defending than a pointlessly vigourous sliding tackle.

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                              Given

 

G. Neville    Terry    Materazzi      A. Cole

 

 

 

          Gerrard    Vieira    Scholes

 

 

 

                          Rooney

 

 

                Klose              Henry

 

 

 

 

Subs:

 

Buffon

Zambrotta

R. Ferdinand

Gattuso

Lampard

C. Ronaldo

Drogba

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materazzi - you people really surprise me at times!

 

                          buffon

 

zambrotta  nesta  canavarro  lahm

 

              gerrard    vieira

 

  messi          kaka        henry

                 

                  eto'o

 

subs:

cech

a. cole

terry

c. ronaldo

ronaldinho

drogba

luca toni

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Why is it that Gerrard regularly gets called one of the best midfielders in the world, yet consistently on the bigger stages hes looked vastly inferior to those who are considered his "equals"?

 

When on the same pitch as the likes of Xavi, Deco, Kaka, Riquelme, etc, Gerrard is simply shiite in comparison.

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                              Given

 

G. Neville     Terry    Materazzi      A. Cole

 

 

 

           Gerrard     Vieira     Scholes

 

 

 

                           Rooney

 

 

                 Klose              Henry

 

 

 

 

Subs:

 

Buffon

Zambrotta

R. Ferdinand

Gattuso

Lampard

C. Ronaldo

Drogba

 

another joke presumably?  only 3 players from outside the EPL in the starting 11. have you ever seen any european football????!!!!!

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Why is it that Gerrard regularly gets called one of the best midfielders in the world, yet consistently on the bigger stages hes looked vastly inferior to those who are considered his "equals"?

 

When on the same pitch as the likes of Xavi, Deco, Kaka, Riquelme, etc, Gerrard is simply shiite in comparison.

 

Henry is the same on the big occasion he chokes, like CL/World Cup/Euro champs finals

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I'll just name some players, as I don't know if I could narrow it to a starting XI or squad of 16.

 

Buffon/Cech

 

Terry/Cannavaro/Nesta/Puyol/Gallas/Zambrotta/Ramos(at RB)/Toure/Heinze

 

Ronaldo/Gattuso Pirlo(Combo)/Gerrard/Ronaldinho/Kaka/Xavi

 

van Nistelrooy/Henry/Drogba(On Current form)/Eto'o/Crespo

 

Pretty much my deduction, although it's hardly an XI.

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Why is it that Gerrard regularly gets called one of the best midfielders in the world, yet consistently on the bigger stages hes looked vastly inferior to those who are considered his "equals"?

 

When on the same pitch as the likes of Xavi, Deco, Kaka, Riquelme, etc, Gerrard is simply shiite in comparison.

 

not when he plays for Liverpool he isn't, he is their equal. in the england team he is not in a set-up that suits him, nor surrounded by players who can compensate for his faults.

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Why is it that Gerrard regularly gets called one of the best midfielders in the world, yet consistently on the bigger stages hes looked vastly inferior to those who are considered his "equals"?

 

When on the same pitch as the likes of Xavi, Deco, Kaka, Riquelme, etc, Gerrard is simply shiite in comparison.

 

not when he plays for Liverpool he isn't, he is their equal. in the england team he is not in a set-up that suits him, nor surrounded by players who can compensate for his faults.

 

It's really unfortunate, because the reason consistently fantastic preformers like Gerrard get slated sometimes is because their consistency makes the occasional choke-up all the more memorable. That's definitely the case here. I honestly don't even remember the specific game in which Gerrard showed himself to be "inferior" to his continental counterparts, but perhaps there has been one or two occasions that are skewing people's views.

 

The man's won the Champions League, for pete's sake. I guess we'll find out the truth come March when he squares off again Barca.

 

I honestly believe that out of all English footballers, only Gerrard, Ferdinand, and maybe Rooney would walk into just about any side in the world. You may quote me on this.

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materazzi - you people really surprise me at times!

 

Why not? He's an absolutly brilliant defender.

 

Are people so mentally scarred by that 5 minute youtube video?

 

That Zidane rubbish aside, he played a massive part in Italy winning the world cup both defence and attacking wise (He holds the record in Italy for the most goals in a season by a defender). He makes a few nasty tackles and is an out and out WUM but its all in the game as far as I'm concerned.

 

If people can get past their dislike of the person they can surley accept he is a top class defender.

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                              Given

 

G. Neville     Terry    Materazzi      A. Cole

 

 

 

           Gerrard     Vieira     Scholes

 

 

 

                           Rooney

 

 

                 Klose              Henry

 

 

 

 

Subs:

 

Buffon

Zambrotta

R. Ferdinand

Gattuso

Lampard

C. Ronaldo

Drogba

 

You seriously think Given is the best goalkeeper in the world?

 

Anyway my team would be:

 

                                  Buffon

  G.Neville    Puyol          Cannavaro    Zambrotta

 

  C.Ronaldo  Gerrard    Essien      Ronaldinho

 

                    Eto        Henry

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                                      Buffon

 

                      Puyol  Cannavaro  Terry    A.Cole (though his recent form has been shite)

 

                                              Gerrard

 

                          C.Ronaldo                      Ronaldinho

 

                                              Kaka

 

                              Klose                      Luque,jk...  Etoo/Henry

 

 

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Ferdinand. :lol:

 

Honestly, people who don't recognize that Ferdinand are class are just bending over backwards to slate England players tbh.

 

THe opinion of the silent majority, no doubt about that. The people who slate Ferdinand's talent are the loudest naturally!

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How people can have players in these stupid imaginary line up's that have never proven themselves at International level puzzles me. It's like sticking Rat Boy Phillips in there a couple of years ago based on domestic performances. David Villa should never be in these line ups gents.

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.............Van Der Sar...............

Puyol..Terry..Materazzi...Lahm

................Viera.......................

.......Gerrard...Deco.................

C.Ronaldo.............Ronaldiniho

................Eto'o.......................

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Why is it that Gerrard regularly gets called one of the best midfielders in the world, yet consistently on the bigger stages hes looked vastly inferior to those who are considered his "equals"?

 

When on the same pitch as the likes of Xavi, Deco, Kaka, Riquelme, etc, Gerrard is simply shiite in comparison.

 

Idiot if you seriously think that..... Gerrard IS world class.

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                     Buffon

 

Zambrotta Nesta Terry Grosso

                   

            Gerrard    Fabregas

C Ronaldo                 Ronaldinho

                Eto'o   Henry

 

Would be an awesome attacking team.

 

                      Cech

Gallas Ferdinand Puyol Heinze

                    Vieira

              Deco    Essien

    Kaka                        Rooney

                   Drogba

 

Would make a powerful team.

 

EDIT : Cant believe I left out Toure. I'll have him in place of Heinze.

 

Puyol Toure Ferdinand Gallas.

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                              Given

 

G. Neville     Terry    Materazzi      A. Cole

 

 

 

           Gerrard     Vieira     Scholes

 

 

 

                           Rooney

 

 

                 Klose              Henry

 

 

 

 

Subs:

 

Buffon

Zambrotta

R. Ferdinand

Gattuso

Lampard

C. Ronaldo

Drogba

 

You seriously think Given is the best goalkeeper in the world?

 

Anyway my team would be:

 

                                  Buffon

   G.Neville     Puyol           Cannavaro     Zambrotta

 

   C.Ronaldo   Gerrard    Essien      Ronaldinho

 

                     Eto        Henry

 

Kudos for not putting any Spuds players in, and it must have hurt to list Henry ;)

 

In fact, apart from the two centre midfielders (two of Xavi/Pirlo and Kaka/Deco for mine) that's one of the best line-ups listed thus far...

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                              Given

 

G. Neville    Terry    Materazzi      A. Cole

 

 

 

          Gerrard    Vieira    Scholes

 

 

 

                          Rooney

 

 

                Klose              Henry

 

 

 

 

Subs:

 

Buffon

Zambrotta

R. Ferdinand

Gattuso

Lampard

C. Ronaldo

Drogba

 

another joke presumably?  only 3 players from outside the EPL in the starting 11. have you ever seen any european football????!!!!!

 

No, it's not a joke, usually I watch 2-3 italian and at least 1-2 spanish matches + every Champions League matches I can in Hungary. And I think this 11 is the strongest in the world.

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                              Given

 

G. Neville    Terry    Materazzi      A. Cole

 

 

 

          Gerrard    Vieira    Scholes

 

 

 

                          Rooney

 

 

                Klose              Henry

 

 

 

 

Subs:

 

Buffon

Zambrotta

R. Ferdinand

Gattuso

Lampard

C. Ronaldo

Drogba

 

You seriously think Given is the best goalkeeper in the world?

 

Anyway my team would be:

 

                                  Buffon

  G.Neville    Puyol          Cannavaro    Zambrotta

 

  C.Ronaldo  Gerrard    Essien      Ronaldinho

 

                    Eto        Henry

 

 

Yes, I seriously think he is as good as Buffon or Cech, if not better.

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