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Is anyone free Thursday next week?

Between 4pm-7pm there is a public consultation (at the Sandman hotel) regarding the new proposed development on the Strawberry land (St James’ Park Metro station).

I think it’s very important for as many fans as possible to go and make sure that we don’t want a development that will prevent a FULL expansion of the Gallowgate end (not a smaller or partial expansion), and the Metro station.

Greg[/member] any chance you could make it? I know this is the sort of stuff that you do for a living.

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  On 30/04/2019 at 22:11, Stifleaay said:

Is anyone free Thursday next week?

Between 4pm-7pm there is a public consultation (at the Sandman hotel) regarding the new proposed development on the Strawberry land (St James’ Park Metro station).

I think it’s very important for as many fans as possible to go and make sure that we don’t want a development that will prevent a FULL expansion of the Gallowgate end (not a smaller or partial expansion), and the Metro station.

Greg[/member] any chance you could make it? I know this is the sort of stuff that you do for a living.

 

Stifleaay[/member]

Ive just been talking about this with our Commercial Real Estate team at work.  Our land lord has already informed us the plans are to be one 18 floor tower and one 20 (iircc).  Also the developers are Ashley's son in law.

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  On 02/05/2019 at 10:44, Northerngimp said:

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Is anyone free Thursday next week?

Between 4pm-7pm there is a public consultation (at the Sandman hotel) regarding the new proposed development on the Strawberry land (St James’ Park Metro station).

I think it’s very important for as many fans as possible to go and make sure that we don’t want a development that will prevent a FULL expansion of the Gallowgate end (not a smaller or partial expansion), and the Metro station.

Greg[/member] any chance you could make it? I know this is the sort of stuff that you do for a living.

 

Stifleaay[/member]

Ive just been talking about this with our Commercial Real Estate team at work.  Our land lord has already informed us the plans are to be one 18 floor tower and one 20 (iircc).  Also the developers are Ashley's son in law.

It his son in laws father. I have suspected it for a while, but I have not been able to confirm it.

The same guy owns a company called ‘Lazarus developments’ which owns a number of bars in Newcastle. The company is based in Doncaster.

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  On 02/05/2019 at 10:47, Stifleaay said:

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Is anyone free Thursday next week?

Between 4pm-7pm there is a public consultation (at the Sandman hotel) regarding the new proposed development on the Strawberry land (St James’ Park Metro station).

I think it’s very important for as many fans as possible to go and make sure that we don’t want a development that will prevent a FULL expansion of the Gallowgate end (not a smaller or partial expansion), and the Metro station.

Greg[/member] any chance you could make it? I know this is the sort of stuff that you do for a living.

 

Stifleaay[/member]

Ive just been talking about this with our Commercial Real Estate team at work.  Our land lord has already informed us the plans are to be one 18 floor tower and one 20 (iircc).  Also the developers are Ashley's son in law.

It his son in laws father. I have suspected it for a while, but I have not been able to confirm it.

The same guy owns a company called ‘Lazarus developments’ which owns a number of bars in Newcastle. The company is based in Doncaster.

 

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  On 02/05/2019 at 10:49, Northerngimp said:

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Is anyone free Thursday next week?

Between 4pm-7pm there is a public consultation (at the Sandman hotel) regarding the new proposed development on the Strawberry land (St James’ Park Metro station).

I think it’s very important for as many fans as possible to go and make sure that we don’t want a development that will prevent a FULL expansion of the Gallowgate end (not a smaller or partial expansion), and the Metro station.

Greg[/member] any chance you could make it? I know this is the sort of stuff that you do for a living.

 

Stifleaay[/member]

Ive just been talking about this with our Commercial Real Estate team at work.  Our land lord has already informed us the plans are to be one 18 floor tower and one 20 (iircc).  Also the developers are Ashley's son in law.

It his son in laws father. I have suspected it for a while, but I have not been able to confirm it.

The same guy owns a company called ‘Lazarus developments’ which owns a number of bars in Newcastle. The company is based in Doncaster.

 

Grim

I stood up and told people at Magpie group meetings. I have tried to tell the Chronicle who just don’t listen. Greg tried to get the Guardian to do an expose on it, they never did.
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  On 02/05/2019 at 10:51, Stifleaay said:

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Is anyone free Thursday next week?

Between 4pm-7pm there is a public consultation (at the Sandman hotel) regarding the new proposed development on the Strawberry land (St James’ Park Metro station).

I think it’s very important for as many fans as possible to go and make sure that we don’t want a development that will prevent a FULL expansion of the Gallowgate end (not a smaller or partial expansion), and the Metro station.

Greg[/member] any chance you could make it? I know this is the sort of stuff that you do for a living.

 

Stifleaay[/member]

Ive just been talking about this with our Commercial Real Estate team at work.  Our land lord has already informed us the plans are to be one 18 floor tower and one 20 (iircc).  Also the developers are Ashley's son in law.

It his son in laws father. I have suspected it for a while, but I have not been able to confirm it.

The same guy owns a company called ‘Lazarus developments’ which owns a number of bars in Newcastle. The company is based in Doncaster.

 

Grim

I stood up and told people at Magpie group meetings. I have tried to tell the Chronicle who just don’t listen. Greg tried to get the Guardian to do an expose on it, they never did.

Jesus man.

 

So Ashley flogs land that NUFC own and then makes sure it stays within the family.  :undecided:

 

 

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  On 02/05/2019 at 10:53, Northerngimp said:

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Is anyone free Thursday next week?

Between 4pm-7pm there is a public consultation (at the Sandman hotel) regarding the new proposed development on the Strawberry land (St James’ Park Metro station).

I think it’s very important for as many fans as possible to go and make sure that we don’t want a development that will prevent a FULL expansion of the Gallowgate end (not a smaller or partial expansion), and the Metro station.

Greg[/member] any chance you could make it? I know this is the sort of stuff that you do for a living.

 

Stifleaay[/member]

Ive just been talking about this with our Commercial Real Estate team at work.  Our land lord has already informed us the plans are to be one 18 floor tower and one 20 (iircc).  Also the developers are Ashley's son in law.

It his son in laws father. I have suspected it for a while, but I have not been able to confirm it.

The same guy owns a company called ‘Lazarus developments’ which owns a number of bars in Newcastle. The company is based in Doncaster.

 

Grim

I stood up and told people at Magpie group meetings. I have tried to tell the Chronicle who just don’t listen. Greg tried to get the Guardian to do an expose on it, they never did.

Jesus man.

 

So Ashley flogs land that NUFC own and then makes sure it stays within the family.  :undecided:

Basically. In my searching I found that one of the companies his father in law has (Michael Murray, same name as his son, hence why you might have thought he sold it to his son in law), Ashley is actually the largest shareholder.
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  On 02/05/2019 at 11:01, Stifleaay said:

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Is anyone free Thursday next week?

Between 4pm-7pm there is a public consultation (at the Sandman hotel) regarding the new proposed development on the Strawberry land (St James’ Park Metro station).

I think it’s very important for as many fans as possible to go and make sure that we don’t want a development that will prevent a FULL expansion of the Gallowgate end (not a smaller or partial expansion), and the Metro station.

Greg[/member] any chance you could make it? I know this is the sort of stuff that you do for a living.

 

Stifleaay[/member]

Ive just been talking about this with our Commercial Real Estate team at work.  Our land lord has already informed us the plans are to be one 18 floor tower and one 20 (iircc).  Also the developers are Ashley's son in law.

It his son in laws father. I have suspected it for a while, but I have not been able to confirm it.

The same guy owns a company called ‘Lazarus developments’ which owns a number of bars in Newcastle. The company is based in Doncaster.

 

Grim

I stood up and told people at Magpie group meetings. I have tried to tell the Chronicle who just don’t listen. Greg tried to get the Guardian to do an expose on it, they never did.

Jesus man.

 

So Ashley flogs land that NUFC own and then makes sure it stays within the family.  :undecided:

Basically. In my searching I found that one of the companies his father in law has (Michael Murray, same name as his son, hence why you might have thought he sold it to his son in law), Ashley is actually the largest shareholder.

 

Its unreal, he's totally asset stripped NUFC of a valuable asset and we have morons on TV telling us he is good for NUFC. :lol: :lol:

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  On 30/04/2019 at 22:11, Stifleaay said:

Is anyone free Thursday next week?

Between 4pm-7pm there is a public consultation (at the Sandman hotel) regarding the new proposed development on the Strawberry land (St James’ Park Metro station).

I think it’s very important for as many fans as possible to go and make sure that we don’t want a development that will prevent a FULL expansion of the Gallowgate end (not a smaller or partial expansion), and the Metro station.

Greg[/member] any chance you could make it? I know this is the sort of stuff that you do for a living.

 

Would be a complete waste of anyone's time, unfortunately. It's going to happen and nothing will be done to stop it. It's a new stadium or bust going forward if NUFC want to expand. Ashley has won, we are f*cked and it has all happened with barely a whimper of complaint from anyone within the city. Geordie pride eh?

 

This where the likes of the Magpie Group should have been directing their energy, instead of pointless chants outside of SJP & Sports Direct on Northumberland Street. Days to go until Rafa's probable last ever home game and not a peep out of them for months. They have shown themselves to be utterly inept at effecting any kind of change.

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  On 02/05/2019 at 12:02, Wandy said:

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Is anyone free Thursday next week?

Between 4pm-7pm there is a public consultation (at the Sandman hotel) regarding the new proposed development on the Strawberry land (St James’ Park Metro station).

I think it’s very important for as many fans as possible to go and make sure that we don’t want a development that will prevent a FULL expansion of the Gallowgate end (not a smaller or partial expansion), and the Metro station.

Greg[/member] any chance you could make it? I know this is the sort of stuff that you do for a living.

 

Would be a complete waste of anyone's time, unfortunately. It's going to happen and nothing will be done to stop it. It's a new stadium or bust going forward if NUFC want to expand. Ashley has won, we are f*cked and it has all happened with barely a whimper of complaint from anyone within the city. Geordie pride eh?

 

This where the likes of the Magpie Group should have been directing their energy, instead of pointless chants outside of SJP & Sports Direct on Northumberland Street. Days to go until Rafa's probable last ever home game and not a peep out of them for months. They have shown themselves to be utterly inept at effecting any kind of change.

 

Out of interest what did you offer up in the way of forcing change?

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  On 02/05/2019 at 12:07, LFEE said:

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Is anyone free Thursday next week?

Between 4pm-7pm there is a public consultation (at the Sandman hotel) regarding the new proposed development on the Strawberry land (St James’ Park Metro station).

I think it’s very important for as many fans as possible to go and make sure that we don’t want a development that will prevent a FULL expansion of the Gallowgate end (not a smaller or partial expansion), and the Metro station.

Greg[/member] any chance you could make it? I know this is the sort of stuff that you do for a living.

 

Would be a complete waste of anyone's time, unfortunately. It's going to happen and nothing will be done to stop it. It's a new stadium or bust going forward if NUFC want to expand. Ashley has won, we are f*cked and it has all happened with barely a whimper of complaint from anyone within the city. Geordie pride eh?

 

This where the likes of the Magpie Group should have been directing their energy, instead of pointless chants outside of SJP & Sports Direct on Northumberland Street. Days to go until Rafa's probable last ever home game and not a peep out of them for months. They have shown themselves to be utterly inept at effecting any kind of change.

 

Out of interest what did you offer up in the way of forcing change?

 

Gave up my season ticket, will not set foot in SJP till Ashley has gone. Absolutely refused to buy anything from SD. Attended all Magpie Group meetings & events. Phoned radio phone-ins. Had numerous arguments with friends & family to try to convince them to boycott matches. Enlightened them on the scandal of how Ashley is quietly asset stripping us and how they are actively supporting it by continuing to turn up at SJP and renewing their season tickets.

 

Any ideas of what else I could have done?

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So as well as no extension of the stadium it will no longer form part of the skyline because of these Ashley towers ?

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  On 02/05/2019 at 13:28, chopey said:

So as well as no extension of the stadium it will no longer form part of the skyline because of these Ashley towers ?

Not just that, but the Metro will not be able to be expanded west wards from SJP. This is pretty much the only way to extend it, without developing lines separately from the current lines.
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  On 02/05/2019 at 13:30, Stifleaay said:

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So as well as no extension of the stadium it will no longer form part of the skyline because of these Ashley towers ?

Not just that, but the Metro will not be able to be expanded west wards from SJP. This is pretty much the only way to extend it, without developing lines separately from the current lines.

The metro has been there for 30 years without being expanded westwards, it's a non issue.

 

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  On 02/05/2019 at 13:30, Stifleaay said:

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So as well as no extension of the stadium it will no longer form part of the skyline because of these Ashley towers ?

Not just that, but the Metro will not be able to be expanded west wards from SJP. This is pretty much the only way to extend it, without developing lines separately from the current lines.

 

Non issue, it'll never be expanded west.

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  On 02/05/2019 at 14:33, Matt said:

Has Ashley sold the land already to the developers? I remember reading it somewhere that he had, but can't find it.

Sold it to his parent in law who is a developer.
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  On 02/05/2019 at 14:27, neesy111 said:

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So as well as no extension of the stadium it will no longer form part of the skyline because of these Ashley towers ?

Not just that, but the Metro will not be able to be expanded west wards from SJP. This is pretty much the only way to extend it, without developing lines separately from the current lines.

 

Non issue, it'll never be expanded west.

 

It is in the thinking to be, as is a whole host of other areas also. Wouldn't happen for 20 plus years anyway and would take a massive amount of money in a form of a grant from the government. Having in recent times paid huge amounts for the upgrade of the system (still ongoing) and the new Metro Fleet (upcoming), I don't think the government will see expansion as a priority anytime soon.

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  On 02/05/2019 at 16:10, godzilla said:

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So as well as no extension of the stadium it will no longer form part of the skyline because of these Ashley towers ?

Not just that, but the Metro will not be able to be expanded west wards from SJP. This is pretty much the only way to extend it, without developing lines separately from the current lines.

 

Non issue, it'll never be expanded west.

 

It is in the thinking to be, as is a whole host of other areas also. Wouldn't happen for 20 plus years anyway and would take a massive amount of money in a form of a grant from the government. Having in recent times paid huge amounts for the upgrade of the system (still ongoing) and the new Metro Fleet (upcoming), I don't think the government will see expansion as a priority anytime soon.

 

Not even that, the best extension to the west end would be via central station

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  On 02/05/2019 at 18:36, neesy111 said:

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So as well as no extension of the stadium it will no longer form part of the skyline because of these Ashley towers ?

Not just that, but the Metro will not be able to be expanded west wards from SJP. This is pretty much the only way to extend it, without developing lines separately from the current lines.

 

Non issue, it'll never be expanded west.

 

It is in the thinking to be, as is a whole host of other areas also. Wouldn't happen for 20 plus years anyway and would take a massive amount of money in a form of a grant from the government. Having in recent times paid huge amounts for the upgrade of the system (still ongoing) and the new Metro Fleet (upcoming), I don't think the government will see expansion as a priority anytime soon.

 

Not even that, the best extension to the west end would be via central station

No it wouldn’t. The Chronicle and Nexus came up with that story right after I told the Chronicle about how the Metro would be prevented from expanding and asked Nexus for a comment about why they hadn’t insisted on it when NCC said in the planning documents that the plans would only be approved if Nexus approved.

 

St Jame’s Park Metro station was built with an extension in mind, either via tunnels, or for the tunnels to rise up to street level and from tram-trains to operate.

Central station offers no way for Metro’s to be connected to the current system. The best they could get is a tram-train system going along Scotswood road, however the section of the line needed to do that has platforms that are used by trains to Manchester Airport and Liverpool at a frequency that wouldn’t allow for Metro to use them, and a frequency that is set to be increased. There is nowhere else where the Metro’s could use the main part of central station because of capacity issues.

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  On 02/05/2019 at 18:36, neesy111 said:

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So as well as no extension of the stadium it will no longer form part of the skyline because of these Ashley towers ?

Not just that, but the Metro will not be able to be expanded west wards from SJP. This is pretty much the only way to extend it, without developing lines separately from the current lines.

 

Non issue, it'll never be expanded west.

 

It is in the thinking to be, as is a whole host of other areas also. Wouldn't happen for 20 plus years anyway and would take a massive amount of money in a form of a grant from the government. Having in recent times paid huge amounts for the upgrade of the system (still ongoing) and the new Metro Fleet (upcoming), I don't think the government will see expansion as a priority anytime soon.

 

Not even that, the best extension to the west end would be via central station

 

You have to think about the engineering side though and the most practicable and cheapest way of building the infrastruture and laying the track. The initial thoughts are that it would go through St James, Quayside and up to Team Valley and the Metrocentre. They will go with whatever is cheapest IF it ever comes to fruition. Look at the Sunderland extension, used existing Network Rail infrastructure as it was the cheapest option, even though many people argued that the best long term solution would be to go via the Metro Centre and Washington. This has resulted in potential long term profits in this extension being minimised to a pretty large extent.

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Highlighted today’s developments and pretty much the confirmation that Ashley has sold the land to his parent in law. This is information that I have emailed them plenty of times and begged them to publish it or look into it more. They have never responded to me, instead they made a bullshit article saying how the Metro could be extended from Central Station.

Today I made public tweet about this information, one reporter from the Chronicle told me that it was fake news. I told him that I had spend months researching this and even told them about it numerous times. He gave me his email in order to pass on details to him. I have told him to stick it, I’ll fight for my city on my own.

Anyone who thinks the Chronicle is out for the benefit of our area is deluded, bunch of scum bags.

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  On 02/05/2019 at 12:15, Wandy said:

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Is anyone free Thursday next week?

Between 4pm-7pm there is a public consultation (at the Sandman hotel) regarding the new proposed development on the Strawberry land (St James’ Park Metro station).

I think it’s very important for as many fans as possible to go and make sure that we don’t want a development that will prevent a FULL expansion of the Gallowgate end (not a smaller or partial expansion), and the Metro station.

Greg[/member] any chance you could make it? I know this is the sort of stuff that you do for a living.

 

Would be a complete waste of anyone's time, unfortunately. It's going to happen and nothing will be done to stop it. It's a new stadium or bust going forward if NUFC want to expand. Ashley has won, we are f*cked and it has all happened with barely a whimper of complaint from anyone within the city. Geordie pride eh?

 

This where the likes of the Magpie Group should have been directing their energy, instead of pointless chants outside of SJP & Sports Direct on Northumberland Street. Days to go until Rafa's probable last ever home game and not a peep out of them for months. They have shown themselves to be utterly inept at effecting any kind of change.

 

Out of interest what did you offer up in the way of forcing change?

 

Gave up my season ticket, will not set foot in SJP till Ashley has gone. Absolutely refused to buy anything from SD. Attended all Magpie Group meetings & events. Phoned radio phone-ins. Had numerous arguments with friends & family to try to convince them to boycott matches. Enlightened them on the scandal of how Ashley is quietly asset stripping us and how they are actively supporting it by continuing to turn up at SJP and renewing their season tickets.

 

Any ideas of what else I could have done?

 

Don’t give up hope and encourage others positively. I know it can be frustrating though :thup:

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