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Have there been any plans to expand the metro from St James' ?

 

There is plans to the west end, quayside, team valley and metro centre. Be years of even if they do come into play, which depends on mass finance from the government. There are other plans in consideration also for other areas.

I'd have though the west end plans would've been from Central station.

 

If you see at my post above, you have to take into account the engineering side and what is more what is most practicable and cheapest way of building the infrastruture and laying the track for any possible extension. If you built it from Central the knock on effect in terms of mass disruption to the city centre and the probable effects on the national rail network at Central for an extended period of time would imho not be allowed.

 

You have to lay track, signalling, points overhead line etc. and in terms of an engineering, commerce, local and political aspects this would be a nightmare and I just can't see it happening. That's why the potential plans in place go a totally different direction.

There was little disruption to heavy rail during the original building of central station metro. Throw in the easily accessible corridor west of the Central, that would make more sense using the existing track bed that's now a cycle path as opposed to going through Arthur's hill ?

 

This was discussed and found not to be feasible. The disruption would be heavy as the original work was mainly adjacent to the national rail and running parallel in the direction to Gateshead and Monument. Going to the West End wouldn’t be. It would also stop all Metro services into the city centre and heavily disrupt bus services also. It’s not only Nexus who make these findings, the feasibility studies were done in conjunction with Network Rail and the Council. Going via St James (which apart from events at St James) has one of the lowest patronage on the system would be the most feasible and have far less impact by a massive margin. You then have to look at the effect on commerce in the city centre.

I'd like to see their workings out on this as theres already existing line down to Forth yard. It would  mean joining that up with the Central metro line. Work on St James' metro will be easier but the rest of the line , even a link from there to the riverside branch would seem to be more hassle than joing up to Central station metro.

 

And where would they join up with the Central metro line then, bearing in mind you have trains coming from Gateshead and Monument every 7 minutes?

Underground junction under what is now car parking to west of Central station so metros could leave the station as they do now.Similar could be asked of the St James' plan, where would they go after if they were going west or joining on to riverside branch ?

There are plans to build on the car park.
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Can we not just build a stadium the same as Tottenhams on top of Eldon Square ?

 

A sky stadium floating above Eldon sq. with golden escalators.

 

Is it feasible that a sky stadium would float so high that it'd leave the atmosphere ?

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Apparently it will allow for expansion of the Gallowgate, however not indication of that is a full expansion (in line with level 7) or not.

Also an expansion would still take SJP close to the new buildings, and in my view it’s important that before they are given the go ahead, any potential lack of light etc wouldn’t be a problem for the planning committee for if we did get a new owner and expanded SJP.

 

Also a lack of clarity on what this means for any possible Metro expansion.

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That is absolutely fucking disgusting. There is not a chance that the Gallowgate could be extended with those buildings in such close proximity, and especially not an extension of Level 7.

 

This has got to be fucking stopped man. It's even more important than getting Ashley out.

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Have these mock-ups come from the developer, then? As in, it's now completely out of the club's hands? Has anything been submitted from a planning point of view, yet?

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