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  On 06/12/2021 at 16:23, Dr Jinx said:

I really hope they manage to get Keegan back in some capacity. Imagine him sitting in the stands beside Amanda watching over a team he can be proud of.

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That sort of thing WILL happen, but not everything can sensibly happen immediately.

 

It is great and it is just gonna keep on getting greater and greater and greater !!!

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  On 06/12/2021 at 18:17, Rocker said:

Shearer bashing irks me.

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Aye, the man is arguably our greatest ever player, he’s one of us, I doubt we will ever see anyone as good as he was in our colours again, despite our so-called wealth after the takeover. 

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  On 06/12/2021 at 18:27, bowlingcrofty said:

Bloke could have signed for any team in the world but wanted to come home. Scored 206 goals and saved us from the shit countless of times.

 

If he’s getting grief then no one is safe.

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Yep. Hard to understand the posts above. ”He’s not Kevin Keegan”. That’s right, he’s not. He’s Alan Shearer from Gosforth who could have played for Man U or Juve and win it all but instead chose to play for Newcastle for 10 years winning fuck all because he loves the club. I mean, come on.

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If KK and Shearer don’t want to work for the club officially in any (paid or otherwise) capacity, I’d still give them honoury titles. KK the player, the manager, the man, is the single most important part of NUFC’s long glorious history and Shearer, our record goalscorer is our greatest ever player IMO. I’d love the club to do an Entertainers style XI vs whoever exhibition friendly match held at SJP every close season too, to raise funds for the Food Bank and or the Sir Bobby Foundation. KK as manager of course!

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  On 06/12/2021 at 18:25, HTT II said:

Aye, the man is arguably our greatest ever player, he’s one of us, I doubt we will ever see anyone as good as he was in our colours again, despite our so-called wealth after the takeover. 

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Totally agree with that, as I mentioned I was the biggest Shearer fan growing up and still am. I just meant I relate more to/am inspired more by keegan now that I’m older. Both of course are absolute legends. 

 

 

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  On 06/12/2021 at 18:50, kingxlnc said:

Totally agree with that, as I mentioned I was the biggest Shearer fan growing up and still am. I just meant I relate more to keegan now that I’m older. Both of course are absolute legends. 

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Oh aye, KK is and always will be the king, my personal hero and idol and ultimate legend over anyone, Shearer or whoever manages or plays for us in a game or era where we are winning silverware. 

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I think why the likes of Shearer and Roy Keane for example are not managerial material is because as players, they didn’t need instructed, coached or man managed, they were their own men and were consummate professionals, players like them would succeed regardless of environment, manager, team or era. They can’t therefore relate to the modern day individual footballer and expect any player to have the same mentality as they had or can’t comprehend those that don’t.
 

Souness was similar and that’s why he and the likes of Shearer and Roy Keane and some other former top players who went into management struggle, because they have a work hard, proper players/s, roll your sleeves up type mindset where the player is responsible for the majority of his game, form etc.. That’s also a lot down to their coaching by their own former managers or the culture of their dressing rooms.
 

KK was similar in having personal mindset, but experienced different types of managers and cultures especially with England and abroad and because he was a personable person as was Sir Bobby, he took to man management and being able to handle egos and the fragile confidences and characteristics of individuals much better and therefore was a much better manager.

 

If Gerrard for example is to be a top manager, he will have learned a lot from Rafa, a manager he didn’t really need to drive him on, to be coached by, to perform, because he was so driven himself. Rafa just understood him and one of the signs he will succeed as a manager is he welcomed Rafa’s style, even if he didn’t always agree or like it. Anything to get that extra percentage, that extra bit out of him and to aid his performances. 

 

 

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Dr Jinx

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I’m not bashing Shearer, he’s still a club legend but I really wish he’d just kept his gob shut about Steve Bruce.

 

Guilt by association as far as I’m concerned, if his love for the club was all that he claims, he’d have had no issue stating facts about his mates but he chose to be an apologist.

 

Keegan has his flaws but a lack of integrity has and never will be one of them.

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  On 06/12/2021 at 19:07, Dr Jinx said:

I’m not bashing Shearer, he’s still a club legend but I really wish he’d just kept his gob shut about Steve Bruce.

 

Guilt by association as far as I’m concerned, if his love for the club was all that he claims, he’d have had no issue stating facts about his mates but he chose to be an apologist.

 

Keegan has his flaws but a lack of integrity has and never will be one of them.

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He did, he just never threw his mate under the bus, understandable really. Points deducted, but he’s still top of the league.

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  On 06/12/2021 at 18:48, Collage said:

Yep. Hard to understand the posts above. ”He’s not Kevin Keegan”. That’s right, he’s not. He’s Alan Shearer from Gosforth who could have played for Man U or Juve and win it all but instead chose to play for Newcastle for 10 years winning fuck all because he loves the club. I mean, come on.

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Great player, shit manager in the little he showed. It's really not a debate :lol: It was just interesting that he was labelled as a potential PFM which caught my attention.

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  On 06/12/2021 at 17:03, Wandy said:

 

Because he's a greedy bastard. Personally I'd have him nowhere near anything to do with the running of the club. Great player for us and that's it. I can think of at least 3 players ahead of Shearer who I idolised more though.

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Agree , great goal scorer but I’ve no time for him 

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I'm not a fan of involving past players in the club at any capacity other than an honorary position or as an ambassador for marketing purposes. I've seen so many club legends of big clubs hurt their glorious reputations after taking over important managerial roles that they are not qualified for.

 

IMO, the club should just honor them with statues, invite them to matches at St. James Park or let them do some sort of charity work representing the club. That's it.

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  On 06/12/2021 at 20:22, HawK said:


Great player, shit manager in the little he showed. It's really not a debate :lol: It was just interesting that he was labelled as a potential PFM which caught my attention.

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Didn’t say anything about him as a manager, I agree he’s probably not very good. Don’t get the bashing of a club legend though.

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  On 06/12/2021 at 20:54, GWN said:


lve a personal reason which I won’t discuss on here , I can say he’s an arrogant prick at times in private. 

 

 

 

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All human mate. When I met him he was sound, signed my shirt I had for him, and even encouraged me to take a picture as I was shitting bricks. 

 

As for the signage. It's lovely to see it removed. 

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  On 06/12/2021 at 18:27, bowlingcrofty said:

Bloke could have signed for any team in the world but wanted to come home. Scored 206 goals and saved us from the shit countless of times.

 

If he’s getting grief then no one is safe.

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He come because he thought NUFC would win more trophies than MUFC. The decision was completely devoid of sentiment. I can bet you any money that if he could go back in time, knowing what the future held by signing for us, then he would sign for Man Utd. Rightly so too, as time has shown that he made the wrong decision. 

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  On 06/12/2021 at 20:56, Rich said:

I'd be arrogant as fuck if I was the greatest striker in Premier League history and a multi-millionaire, like. Hope he's shagged GWN's wife.

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My wife is suffering from a terrible cancer , there’s absolutely no fucking need to post this , joking or not , you know nothing about the meaning of m6 post yet you had to say that ? 

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  On 06/12/2021 at 18:48, Collage said:

Yep. Hard to understand the posts above. ”He’s not Kevin Keegan”. That’s right, he’s not. He’s Alan Shearer from Gosforth who could have played for Man U or Juve and win it all but instead chose to play for Newcastle for 10 years winning fuck all because he loves the club. I mean, come on.

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Sorry, but you are very naive to believe he chose to shun trophies to come back home. Keegan convinced him that NUFC would be more successful than Man U going forward. No wonder he was so pissed off with KK for jumping ship. I would have been too.

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