St James' Park

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, Stifler said:

Yeah, first of all you have the land we need to buy from different parties, with rumours of us recently buying Wellbar Central (Sky offices).

 

You then have the complications of building over Metro station, which is possible, but will cost more. Add on the re-routing of both Strawberry Road, and Barrack Road.

 

Now add on how we are either going to do it in stages, or play elsewhere, likely a bit of both.

 

Then finally, the cost of the new build stadium in anyway.

Are we buying the Wellbar Central or just renting some office space for the growing ops team?

[Stifler]

5 minutes ago, Jack27 said:

Are we buying the Wellbar Central or just renting some office space for the growing ops team?

No idea. I heard that we bought it, but that rumour originated on Facebook. I guess we’ll find out soon enough.

[Iwantcurlyhair2]

I sincerely hope that its a rebuild at current St James or overlapping in to Leases Park but this project is going to run till 2030 or 2032. The whole infrastructure to the north, south and west is gridlocked for an hour after the game. I either park in the college or at my daughters in Fenham and with always staying till the final whistle it can take an hour to get out the car park. Add an additional 20000 and the whole town will grid lock. Gateshead council have wrecked the road layouts from the Tyne Bridge and Swing Bridge and I still can't understand how trains can go over the high level but cars can't so the only options for South and West is the Redeugh and  Scotswood and the traffic lights at Michell Bearings are already being used to drip feed traffic across Scotswood bridge to prevent A1 & Chainbridge Road being too busy which then gridlocks Scotswood Road back in to town. The one way systems along Percy Street and the RVI force all traffic to go on the same routes out of town. Add in the fact that half the parking spaces in car parks are now permit holders only makes it worse. If we can increase match day to similar to Spurs, have another 30 events a year with Oasis, Taylor Swift, Boxing etc. the additional money for the club, and also the city, will be massive. Hotels, restaurants and bars will be back making profits again and the city will be buzzing. Building in part of Leases park and convert the St James Park land to an arena / 'Disney type village' Newcastle Fanzone and it will totally rejuvenate our city and is vitally needed but the council will really need to sort out the roads and car parks. They'll probably solve it by charging a £30 toll to try and make it car free. The infrastructure work will take longer than the stadium. 

 

[Stifler]

The high level bridge has structural issues. It’s not far off needing rebuilt. They made decision a while back on having trains go over it, or cars.

 

Gateshead have fucked things with Askew Road like, but once the motorway comes down, it will be a lot better.

Newcastle has to start making better use of park & rides though.

[gjohnson]

39 minutes ago, Iwantcurlyhair2 said:

I sincerely hope that its a rebuild at current St James or overlapping in to Leases Park but this project is going to run till 2030 or 2032. The whole infrastructure to the north, south and west is gridlocked for an hour after the game. I either park in the college or at my daughters in Fenham and with always staying till the final whistle it can take an hour to get out the car park. Add an additional 20000 and the whole town will grid lock. Gateshead council have wrecked the road layouts from the Tyne Bridge and Swing Bridge and I still can't understand how trains can go over the high level but cars can't so the only options for South and West is the Redeugh and  Scotswood and the traffic lights at Michell Bearings are already being used to drip feed traffic across Scotswood bridge to prevent A1 & Chainbridge Road being too busy which then gridlocks Scotswood Road back in to town. The one way systems along Percy Street and the RVI force all traffic to go on the same routes out of town. Add in the fact that half the parking spaces in car parks are now permit holders only makes it worse. If we can increase match day to similar to Spurs, have another 30 events a year with Oasis, Taylor Swift, Boxing etc. the additional money for the club, and also the city, will be massive. Hotels, restaurants and bars will be back making profits again and the city will be buzzing. Building in part of Leases park and convert the St James Park land to an arena / 'Disney type village' Newcastle Fanzone and it will totally rejuvenate our city and is vitally needed but the council will really need to sort out the roads and car parks. They'll probably solve it by charging a £30 toll to try and make it car free. The infrastructure work will take longer than the stadium. 

 

Driving anywhere in or around town is like a purgatory of bus/taxi lanes and one way systems. Gateshead have obviously been in full collusion to ensure a 15 minute detour round Gateshead for what was a 2 min journey previously. Combined with the inability to park anywhere that wont cost donating a kidney...Long term plan is clearly to have both centres car free.

[Arknor]

11 hours ago, bobbydazzla said:

Can also tell the Hoppings to fuck right off 

 

they can just built it where the worlds fair used to be on the moor behind the hospital.


castle leazes is kinda small and already has flooding issues, I doubt they would let a stadium be built there, there's also an underground stream that leads to leazes park lake

[El Prontonise]

1 hour ago, Iwantcurlyhair2 said:

I sincerely hope that its a rebuild at current St James or overlapping in to Leases Park but this project is going to run till 2030 or 2032. The whole infrastructure to the north, south and west is gridlocked for an hour after the game. I either park in the college or at my daughters in Fenham and with always staying till the final whistle it can take an hour to get out the car park. Add an additional 20000 and the whole town will grid lock. Gateshead council have wrecked the road layouts from the Tyne Bridge and Swing Bridge and I still can't understand how trains can go over the high level but cars can't so the only options for South and West is the Redeugh and  Scotswood and the traffic lights at Michell Bearings are already being used to drip feed traffic across Scotswood bridge to prevent A1 & Chainbridge Road being too busy which then gridlocks Scotswood Road back in to town. The one way systems along Percy Street and the RVI force all traffic to go on the same routes out of town. Add in the fact that half the parking spaces in car parks are now permit holders only makes it worse. If we can increase match day to similar to Spurs, have another 30 events a year with Oasis, Taylor Swift, Boxing etc. the additional money for the club, and also the city, will be massive. Hotels, restaurants and bars will be back making profits again and the city will be buzzing. Building in part of Leases park and convert the St James Park land to an arena / 'Disney type village' Newcastle Fanzone and it will totally rejuvenate our city and is vitally needed but the council will really need to sort out the roads and car parks. They'll probably solve it by charging a £30 toll to try and make it car free. The infrastructure work will take longer than the stadium. 

 

 

I hope they don't do most of this.

 

This is classic car driver think and the reason why our city centres are dying.

[bobbydazzla]

1 hour ago, Iwantcurlyhair2 said:

I sincerely hope that its a rebuild at current St James or overlapping in to Leases Park but this project is going to run till 2030 or 2032. The whole infrastructure to the north, south and west is gridlocked for an hour after the game. I either park in the college or at my daughters in Fenham and with always staying till the final whistle it can take an hour to get out the car park. Add an additional 20000 and the whole town will grid lock. Gateshead council have wrecked the road layouts from the Tyne Bridge and Swing Bridge and I still can't understand how trains can go over the high level but cars can't so the only options for South and West is the Redeugh and  Scotswood and the traffic lights at Michell Bearings are already being used to drip feed traffic across Scotswood bridge to prevent A1 & Chainbridge Road being too busy which then gridlocks Scotswood Road back in to town. The one way systems along Percy Street and the RVI force all traffic to go on the same routes out of town. Add in the fact that half the parking spaces in car parks are now permit holders only makes it worse. If we can increase match day to similar to Spurs, have another 30 events a year with Oasis, Taylor Swift, Boxing etc. the additional money for the club, and also the city, will be massive. Hotels, restaurants and bars will be back making profits again and the city will be buzzing. Building in part of Leases park and convert the St James Park land to an arena / 'Disney type village' Newcastle Fanzone and it will totally rejuvenate our city and is vitally needed but the council will really need to sort out the roads and car parks. They'll probably solve it by charging a £30 toll to try and make it car free. The infrastructure work will take longer than the stadium. 

 

Some paragraphs in the infrastructure of that post would rejuvenate it massively  

[Groundhog63]

Iwantcurlyhair2 in his local.... 

 

 

[bobbydazzla]

41 minutes ago, Arknor said:

they can just built it where the worlds fair used to be on the moor behind the hospital.


castle leazes is kinda small and already has flooding issues, I doubt they would let a stadium be built there, there's also an underground stream that leads to leazes park lake

I was on the moor today, had a yomp with the durg 

 

Can see the old nag race track, can see the old small pox hospital, can see the old aerodrome, so we won’t be the first to plonk a building on there

 

Cow Hill is man made so we’ve already fucked with the landscape. And the east section where the hive of scum & villainy Hoppings goes is ploughed so there’s no grass

 

Just build a fucking massive Magpie Megadome in the middle of the fucker, get some use out of the acreage 
 

Once it’s up and running no one will give a shite about what it used to be like with mud and turds and a few skanky bovines wandering about aimlessly 

 

 

Edited October 6 by bobbydazzla

[gbandit]

Open a steak restaurant there too and rake in the profits

[Stifler]

2 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Open a steak restaurant there too and rake in the profits

Pick your own cow.

[bobbydazzla]

4 minutes ago, gbandit said:

Open a steak restaurant there too and rake in the profits

Rib Wey Aye 

Sir Les Loin 

Filet Miggynon

 

 

 

[DiddyLevine]

38 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

I was on the moor today, had a yomp with the durg 

 

Can see the old nag race track, can see the old small pox hospital, can see the old aerodrome, so we won’t be the first to plonk a building on there

 

Cow Hill is man made so we’ve already fucked with the landscape. And the east section where the hive of scum & villainy Hoppings goes is ploughed so there’s no grass

 

Just build a fucking massive Magpie Megadome in the middle of the fucker, get some use out of the acreage 
 

Once it’s up and running no one will give a shite about what it used to be like with mud and turds and a few skanky bovines wandering about aimlessly 

 

 

 

Leave some space for the magic mushrooms

[bobbydazzla]

9 minutes ago, DiddyLevine said:

Leave some space for the magic mushrooms

Tell me whereabouts on the moor they’re growing and I’ll make sure they’re left well alone 

[Dancing Brave]

[DiddyLevine]

31 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

Tell me whereabouts on the moor they’re growing and I’ll make sure they’re left well alone 

Everywhere 

[Cookie1892]

14 hours ago, Stifler said:

Pick your own cow.

genius

[manorpark]

On 05/10/2024 at 18:28, DiddyLevine said:

On 05/10/2024 at 14:57, manorpark said:

 

All modern-day people.

 

I'm sure we will have had many equivalents (or better) over all the years before these four.

 

On 05/10/2024 at 18:28, DiddyLevine said:

Name them

 

Name them

My point is (as I'm sure you know) that people always seem to pick 'recent people' for their choice of statues for St James' park, when we have had a very long history as a club and each era (out of the many eras) will have had equally famous and outstanding heroes who could/should be considered for statues.

 

For a simple example (one amongst thousands that could have been picked) here is one Newcastle United team from 1948, and in that one randomly picked team there are at least a couple of names that could be chosen, so how many hundreds of other are there?  

 

[The Butcher]

15 hours ago, bobbydazzla said:

Rib Wey Aye 

Sir Les Loin 

Filet Miggynon

 

 

 

Halal the Lads

JT-Bone

Trip Tip / Trip Steak

 

Calvert-Lewin Skirt Steak 

 

[OpenC]

On 05/10/2024 at 16:06, aussiemag said:

Could they put temporary stands up at Kingston park? 

 

There's something being dug out behind the west stand at Kingston Park, but I suspect it's not the foundations for a stand that'll hold 40,000

[AyeDubbleYoo]

2 minutes ago, OpenC said:

 

There's something being dug out behind the west stand at Kingston Park, but I suspect it's not the foundations for a stand that'll hold 40,000

 

Most likely.

 

Seems ambitious given the crowd would probably halve just because of the journey. We'd probably only need about 20k at Kingston Park. 

 

 

Edited October 7 by AyeDubbleYoo

[Lazarus]

Hamburner

 

Halongy and fries

[TheBrownBottle]

1 hour ago, manorpark said:

 

My point is (as I'm sure you know) that people always seem to pick 'recent people' for their choice of statues for St James' park, when we have had a very long history as a club and each era (out of the many eras) will have had equally famous and outstanding heroes who could/should be considered for statues.

 

For a simple example (one amongst thousands that could have been picked) here is one Newcastle United team from 1948, and in that one randomly picked team there are at least a couple of names that could be chosen, so how many hundreds of other are there?  

 

There was a Milburn statue of course, which has been bounced around a few spots in the city.  Though I suppose having a stand named after you is pretty decent (though Harvey’s inside the Milburn has now disappeared).

 

The Robson statue is utterly mystifying to me.  The one at Ipswich makes sense.

 

But then I’m not keen on statues full stop. 

 

The lack of any formal acknowledgment of Keegan - who for me does rank above pretty much everyone in the club’s history, including trophy winners from times past, given the fact that the club might not exist without him and certainly not in its present form - does seem a bit rum, though.

[Big River]

45 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

The lack of any formal acknowledgment of Keegan - who for me does rank above pretty much everyone in the club’s history, including trophy winners from times past, given the fact that the club might not exist without him and certainly not in its present form - does seem a bit rum, though.

 

the great man has gone on record many times stating he doesn't want any of that stuff