TheBrownBottle Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, TBG said: Is the Arena site even big enough? Seems extremely narrow if the Arena is to also to stay there. I think the idea was that the arena goes for a burton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Isn't the Arena basically being replaced by something near the Sage/Baltic? Or is that development not going ahead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 The Arena is going when the new Sage is complete. The whole area is allocated for redevelopment, not just where the Arena is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Arena is going as far as I’m aware. Just buy up all this land. It’ll be enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanage Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: Arena is going as far as I’m aware. Just buy up all this land. It’ll be enough. Erm most of that is on a massive slope . Non starter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Just build it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCK Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 massive slopes? We'll play down hill second half. Tradition carrying over. Perfect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 13 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: Yep, with you 100%. Soft landscaping of the current SJP - effectively extending Leazes Park - always sounded good to me. John Hall wanted to use the existing SJP for Newcastle / Gosforth Rugby Club when we owned them if I remember right? Maybe a vastly reduced SJP could be used for the women’s side + youth teams etc I think the womans side and youth teams will get a smaller arena at the new training centre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Space for Magpie Land to be built under the elevated part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 (edited) The whole area is allocated for mixed redevelopment. The problem is it's difficult to deliver a masterplanned scheme because remediation costs are huge in areas, and the land ownership is a patchwork quilt (see within that document). So each landowner likely wants to maximise their own bit of the site. It's why there has been so limited progress to deliver it so far. The fact it's on a slope barely matters, re-contouring it to deliver a stadium is perfectly feasible considering the level of remediation and groundwork that would be required anyway. I don't want a modern stadium over there personally, but if PIF wanted to I don't think they'd have much issue convincing land owners to sell up all and consolidating the site - they certainly wouldn't have any resistance developing it from the authorities. Edited December 7, 2023 by ponsaelius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 22 minutes ago, Orphanage said: Erm most of that is on a massive slope . Non starter Simple cut & fill exercise. Not an issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancrate1892 Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said: I think the idea was that the arena goes for a burton No Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Arena site would be pure and utter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomYam Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, TBG said: Is the Arena site even big enough? Seems extremely narrow if the Arena is to also to stay there. There's a lot of empty land, as well as vacant or tertiary commercial/light industrial units adjacent to or in the vicinity of the Arena. If the desire was there to purchase pretty much every parcel of land all the way to Newcastle Business Park, it would get done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 In the whole Leazes/Town Moor plan; imagine if the compromise was the existing SJP was converted to small public football ground where the local community could play; it had a massive nod to NUFC etc and generations of residents could “forever” play on the sacred turf; where their heroes played and where their families fell in love with the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFC Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 10 hours ago, Miggys First Goal said: Arena is going as far as I’m aware. Just buy up all this land. It’ll be enough. Opening game abandoned after Newcastle run out of balls after Fabian Schar boots the lot into the Tyne and Graeme Jones suggests playing without a ball ala Mike Bassett England Manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izakaya Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Is that old trainline running past the arena site still in use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Just now, Izakaya said: Is that old trainline running past the arena site still in use? No. Most of it is used as a car park now, what’s left of the line ends just past the arena. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrone Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 23 hours ago, Miggys First Goal said: Arena is going as far as I’m aware. Just buy up all this land. It’ll be enough. A new bridge over to Gateshead side also, plenty of land there for a car park/fans area, with easy links to A1 I'll give me vote to the old arena area for a new stadium, the old ground/land will end up used for student accommodation regardless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigValley Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 What about the river on the picture? What if the river floods and it goes up over a 1 meter or more. I am from Norway and can not see the picture good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 12 minutes ago, BigValley said: What about the river on the picture? What if the river floods and it goes up over a 1 meter or more. I am from Norway and can not see the picture good enough. We'd be fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrone Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 13 minutes ago, BigValley said: What about the river on the picture? What if the river floods and it goes up over a 1 meter or more. I am from Norway and can not see the picture good enough. Big floats Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanage Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 On 07/12/2023 at 11:06, ponsaelius said: The fact it's on a slope barely matters, re-contouring it to deliver a stadium is perfectly feasible considering the level of remediation and groundwork that would be required anyway. The slope ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 8 hours ago, Izakaya said: Is that old trainline running past the arena site still in use? Technically yes but I don't think anythings been that far down for years. The portion of it to about the Redheugh bridge is regularly used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 4 hours ago, BigValley said: What about the river on the picture? What if the river floods and it goes up over a 1 meter or more. I am from Norway and can not see the picture good enough. Is it feasible the river could rise so high that it would leave the atmosphere ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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