AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 7 minutes ago, OpenC said: I feel like the cows would be happier cows 25 miles north in rural Northumberland. City cows will miss the ready access to artisan cafes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) fair, and equally artisan cafes may miss the ready access to hipster unpasteurised town moor milk Edited March 13 by OpenC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 17 minutes ago, OpenC said: It's already got a fuck off dual carriageway across it, and a golf course. It's not like it's been too carefully preserved so far I feel like the cows would be happier cows 25 miles north in rural Northumberland. The big hill is just spoil from digging the central motorway in the 60s. There was open cast mining on part of it up to the 40s. And from an ecological point of view it's just a giant monoculture of grass for cow grazing. Its absurd to think of it as a natural landscape just because it's empty and open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 16 minutes ago, OpenC said: fair, and equally artisan cafes may miss the ready access to hipster unpasteurised town moor milk Now you're getting it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I only ventured to the Town Moor a couple of times during my years up in Newcastle so I'm not well-placed to comment but will do anyway because this is the internet... but from a distance it seems to me that its big weakness (as a piece of public open space) is that it's severed from its surroundings by main roads along every inch of its perimeter. Some of them will be less busy than others obviously but it nevertheless means that the site doesn't appear well-connected to any other leisure networks (the sheer size of it is responsible for that too). So rather than being one 'bit' of a wider dog-walk, for instance, it's basically a destination in and of itself, and probably an undesirable one because it's surrounded by roads. If there was any notion to maximise its potential then it should start with getting more out of it as a piece of public open space rather than building on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 #announceaforestandaccompanyingwetlands Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Yeah, actually I've basically never walked on the town moor because I think of it as too far away. That's not really geographical distance, it's more accessibility. But on the other hand the people who use it for running and cycling etc do seem to love it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 35 minutes ago, OpenC said: fair, and equally artisan cafes may miss the ready access to hipster unpasteurised town moor milk Straight from the udder to the grande salted caramel mocha. Wouldn't have mine any other way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 54 minutes ago, OpenC said: It's already got a fuck off dual carriageway across it, and a golf course. It's not like it's been too carefully preserved so far I feel like the cows would be happier cows 25 miles north in rural Northumberland. Would be even happier in the safe standing section. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomYam Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 59 minutes ago, LFEE said: All about money and very little of it about. There was a load of trees planted recently by us in one part (can’t remember where exactly) however some of the nearby residents cut them down overnight “allegedly” due to them not wanting their views blocked. Will be interesting if NUFC do move from their current site to say somewhere like the Arena site as that would eventually cost the Freeman a huge chunk of their income. Not sure if we are protected by the long term Leasehold length agreed or if they can just cut and run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomYam Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Interesting point about the Freemen's potential loss of income - not thought about that or any consequences. I seem to remember there were some 'issues' between the council and NUFC in the '60s, '70s and '80s. Would need to delve into the history books to recall... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arknor Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) 1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: But on the other hand the people who use it for running and cycling etc do seem to love it. in 1965 the council/freemen of the cows proposed a competition for the moor and this won £2000 Instead of "the town fair" stick a football stadium in and it would be magnificent https://newcastle-arts-centre.co.uk/forgotten-green-plan-for-newcastle/ Hoppings can use the crappy bit of land next to the golf course Edited March 13 by Arknor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 (edited) I walk on the town moor quite often. Mainly cos the durg loves it. For most of the year if you stray off the paved paths you're up to your knees in clarts. And 68% of it is covered in cow shite. And the Hoppings is absolutely rank. There's been a smallpox hospital there and a racecourse with a grandstand and also an aerodrome. So why can't we borrow a corner and have a decent footy stadium, eh ? Edited March 13 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Anyone suggested moving the moor cow pat by cow pat to Beamish yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 The easiest and best thing they could do would be to allow selection of seats like you could before if you gain in the ballot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie Broon Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 This discussion seems to assume that the Freemen would stand in the way of a stadium on part of the Town Moor. The Freemen supported the Castle Leazes proposal in 1997, so there's nothing to suggest they wouldn't again, or on a different part of the Town Moor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 48 minutes ago, tgarve said: The easiest and best thing they could do would be to allow selection of seats like you could before if you gain in the ballot Unfortunately that’s now far from easy with the introduction of the ballot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 27 minutes ago, SteV said: Unfortunately that’s now far from easy with the introduction of the ballot. How- you could select seats last season? and that basically was a ballot also Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, tgarve said: The easiest and best thing they could do would be to allow selection of seats like you could before if you gain in the ballot It would be better but I’m not sure it would make things amazing. The vast majority of people in SJP sit in the same seat every game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 2 minutes ago, tgarve said: How- you could select seats last season? and that basically was a ballot also Because you’ve got people applying to the ballot in groups now. So let’s say a dad is successful in getting three tickets in the ballot for him and his two kids. Then there’s a window at X time when you’re supposed to go on and select your seats. Dad is busy at the time this window opens and can’t get on until later. By which time there’s no three seats left together. How’s that going to work for him? I do agree that they need to come up with some kind of way to let people have at least partial selection of where they sit. However, it’s not as simple as saying ‘just do what they did last season’ (assuming they’re keeping the ballot). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgarve Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 Just now, SteV said: Because you’ve got people applying to the ballot in groups now. So let’s say a dad is successful in getting three tickets in the ballot for him and his two kids. Then there’s a window at X time when you’re supposed to go on and select your seats. Dad is busy at the time this window opens and can’t get on until later. By which time there’s no three seats left together. How’s that going to work for him? I do agree that they need to come up with some kind of way to let people have at least partial selection of where they sit. However, it’s not as simple as saying ‘just do what they did last season’ (assuming they’re keeping the ballot). True I feel like you could apply in groups before but maybe I’m wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 minute ago, tgarve said: True I feel like you could apply in groups before but maybe I’m wrong It wasn't a ballot last season. It was purely 1st come 1st served. I managed to get us 4 seats together for the final home game of last season v Leicester in the back row of the Gallowgate courtesy of having 4 linked accounts and 9 different browsers open when tickets went on sale. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 1 hour ago, Jackie Broon said: This discussion seems to assume that the Freemen would stand in the way of a stadium on part of the Town Moor. The Freemen supported the Castle Leazes proposal in 1997, so there's nothing to suggest they wouldn't again, or on a different part of the Town Moor. There’s no reason that they’d block a Castle Leazes application given that they didn’t previously, but there’s nothing to suggest that they would support building on a different part of the Moor, either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) Great article and photos of the Town Moor racecourse (until 1881) and grandstand. There was also the Newcastle Exhibition (on Exhibition Park in 1927). It would be interesting if the Exhibition Park/Jesmond end could ever be used and a green land transfer is given back for Leazes Terrace. Surely there’s be plenty of the Moor still left (it is massive like!) https://www.northeastheritagelibrary.co.uk/sports-archive/4022/town-moor-racecourse Edited March 14 by TheGuv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arknor Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheGuv said: There was also the Newcastle Exhibition (on Exhibition Park in 1927 North East Coast Exhibition 1929 The green field on the left side is where the RVI now is and that small patch of trees in the top left corner is the bottom of castle leazes moor. the road Infront of those trees is Richardson Road. Planes looking from Jesmond 2:50 starts going a bit racist with "African Village" OMG If they can build that massive thing they can sure stick a footy ground on it, not like it's a natural landscape is it Edited March 14 by Arknor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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