St James' Park

[Wallsendmag]

1 minute ago, gjohnson said:

A new stadium is the only realistic option if we want to compete. 

 

Yes a few saddos might have to walk a few hundred metres more for their pint of cheap pissy lager....boo hoo. An extra 20/25k will more than compensate for Billy Hates His Wife so has to come. 

 

We don't live in the frigging wilds...yes transport insn't perfect but if you want to watch a match you'll manage it. Having a pint before the match is nice, but it's not why I go

 

Even if we were moved to the wilds of Gosforth Park or wherever, if I want.a drink after a match I'll still go to town. Its not like it's  on Mars. 

 

Somewhere like Gosforth Park shouldn't even be entering in the equation tbh. If we can't have a new build in either Leazes Park, Castle Leazes, or the Arena site (that is my order of preference) then I'd rather just stay where we are.

[gjohnson]

5 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

 

Somewhere like Gosforth Park shouldn't even be entering in the equation tbh. If we can't have a new build in either Leazes Park, Castle Leazes, or the Arena site (that is my order of preference) then I'd rather just stay where we are.

Just an example...even if it was up there the vast majority would still head back to the town centre for food and drink. Like i say its not like its a massive or difficult journey...hell you could probably walk it in 20 minutes assuming the Carling hasn't shriveled your kidneys

[LFEE]

 

[MagCA]

13 minutes ago, LFEE said:

 

60300 at an extended SJP is a lot of money for not a lot more seats. 

 

70k capacity at a new stadium. 
 

Decision “likely” pushed back until the end of the season. 

[SteV]

52 minutes ago, danswan said:

 

Agreed. I'd like to see one massive fuckoff end of safe standing, pay on turnstile only. Sure, have ID, membership required so idiots can be banned, but bring back the times of being able to just rock up and see a game if you want to enough. And make it affordable, cheap even. 

 

Pros:

 

• No more pockets of singers dotted all over. They can gather together in the same area every week. 
• Kids could, if they really wanted to, see a game. With their mates. A new generation of fans, who would one day graduate to more expensive seats, could be nurtured. 
• The club can truly be part of the community, with nobody excluded.
• Atmosphere would undoubtedly be better, in fact it would be off the charts.
• Early attendance would be pretty much essential, meaning greater revenue inside the ground, so increased matchday revenue on that front. 

Cons (and mitigations):

 

• Less revenue. OK, yeah on paper, but what value would the stadium with the greatest atmosphere in the world bring to the club, as we look to increase our presence on the global stage?
• Turnstile carnage. Definitely scope for his, but with modern technology surely this would easily be countered. I'm picturing some sort of point where you'd NFC your phone to confirm & pay, and then head off to the Stack or wherever to await a notification of which timeslot/turnstile to enter etc. 
• Erm.. sure there are more, but my positive mindset can't think of any. Sure someone will be along shortly to piss on my chips. 

 

Basically it would be a modern day corner/scoreboard type of setup. But stick a roof on to amplify the noise and the place would be rocking.

I don’t disagree with the sentiment, but you do realise that hoping for ‘pay on the day’ in the modern PL world, is as likely as, well, something very unlikely.

[Nucasol]

13 minutes ago, LFEE said:

 

Slightly underwhelming on the SJP redevelopment which is where they’ll land. Feels like if they stick with SJP it’s just reheating Freddie Shepherd’s Gallowgate expansion plan. Hardly the silver bullet to closing the gap on the Sinister Six:

 

Newcastle United are set to engage architects to lead the redesign of St James’ Park or a new build on nearby Leazes Park, and Confidential can reveal the proposed capacities and the industry-leading firm in the running.

London-based KSS have been working with Tyneside architects Ryder and have met with the club. Drawings of how the two options would look have been produced and seen by staff inside St James’.

We understand the plans the club are currently working to would see St James’ expanded to a capacity of 60,300, while a new stadium would hold 70,000 fans. Some of the drawings for a new build are said to have a 'bubble wrap' style design around them. If the club announce they are staying at St James’, we have been told it would mean an increase in capacity of around 8,000.

Some parts of the stadium would not change dramatically in terms of looks - even though there would be extensive work throughout - and the extra seating would be accommodated in a redeveloped Gallowgate End.

We understand a formal announcement regarding the direction the club will take could yet be delayed until closer to the end of the season. But the involvement of KSS would be another coup for the club, following the news that world-renowned architects Populous will design a new training ground, as revealed by Confidential last week. KSS were the brains behind the redevelopment of Anfield’s Main Stand in 2016 and won awards on the back of it. They then led the work on the Anfield Road End last year, with Liverpool's capacity rising from 42,000 in 2016 to 61,300 now. The firm are also training ground specialists and designed the state-of-the-art complexes used by Leicester, Tottenham and Brighton.

Their work on stadiums includes the Ahmed bin Ali Stadium in Qatar, which was used during the 2022 World Cup and was where England beat Wales 3-0 in the group stage. They also designed Le Havre’s Stade Oceane, which has the ‘bubble wrap’ exterior similar to descriptions of how a new stadium for Newcastle could look. KSS said: ‘The pixelated ETFE shell cladding imitates the two core elements of sea and sky and acts as a shining beacon for the city, day and night’.

And of their work on Anfield, KSS state: ‘The architectural design reflects the owners’ request to maintain the traditional four-stand configuration, capture the unique spirit of the venue using club and historical references, and reinforce the intense Anfield spectator experience.’ KSS did not comment when approached by Mail Sport.

[MagCA]

1 minute ago, Nucasol said:

Slightly underwhelming on the SJP redevelopment which is where they’ll land. Feels like if they stick with SJP it’s just reheating Freddie Shepherd’s Gallowgate expansion plan. Hardly the silver bullet to closing the gap on the Sinister Six:

 

Newcastle United are set to engage architects to lead the redesign of St James’ Park or a new build on nearby Leazes Park, and Confidential can reveal the proposed capacities and the industry-leading firm in the running.

London-based KSS have been working with Tyneside architects Ryder and have met with the club. Drawings of how the two options would look have been produced and seen by staff inside St James’.

We understand the plans the club are currently working to would see St James’ expanded to a capacity of 60,300, while a new stadium would hold 70,000 fans. Some of the drawings for a new build are said to have a 'bubble wrap' style design around them. If the club announce they are staying at St James’, we have been told it would mean an increase in capacity of around 8,000.

Some parts of the stadium would not change dramatically in terms of looks - even though there would be extensive work throughout - and the extra seating would be accommodated in a redeveloped Gallowgate End.

We understand a formal announcement regarding the direction the club will take could yet be delayed until closer to the end of the season. But the involvement of KSS would be another coup for the club, following the news that world-renowned architects Populous will design a new training ground, as revealed by Confidential last week. KSS were the brains behind the redevelopment of Anfield’s Main Stand in 2016 and won awards on the back of it. They then led the work on the Anfield Road End last year, with Liverpool's capacity rising from 42,000 in 2016 to 61,300 now. The firm are also training ground specialists and designed the state-of-the-art complexes used by Leicester, Tottenham and Brighton.

Their work on stadiums includes the Ahmed bin Ali Stadium in Qatar, which was used during the 2022 World Cup and was where England beat Wales 3-0 in the group stage. They also designed Le Havre’s Stade Oceane, which has the ‘bubble wrap’ exterior similar to descriptions of how a new stadium for Newcastle could look. KSS said: ‘The pixelated ETFE shell cladding imitates the two core elements of sea and sky and acts as a shining beacon for the city, day and night’.

And of their work on Anfield, KSS state: ‘The architectural design reflects the owners’ request to maintain the traditional four-stand configuration, capture the unique spirit of the venue using club and historical references, and reinforce the intense Anfield spectator experience.’ KSS did not comment when approached by Mail Sport.

It would be a disappointing outcome and frankly a waste of a two-year long feasibility study. 
 

If you can’t change the East stand then what are we doing here?

[Whitley mag]

The line that St James apart from the Gallowgate wouldn’t change significantly is a bit disappointing, if that was the option and it’d cost a billion.

 

I would have thought St James as opposed to the new stadium would have been the bubble wrap option.

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Whitley mag

[Stifler]

1 minute ago, MagCA said:

It would be a disappointing outcome and frankly a waste of a two-year long feasibility study. 
 

If you can’t change the East stand then what are we doing here?

I wouldn’t worry about it, we’ll be getting a new stadium.

[SUPERTOON]

6 minutes ago, MagCA said:

60300 at an extended SJP is a lot of money for not a lot more seats. 

 

70k capacity at a new stadium. 
 

Decision “likely” pushed back until the end of the season. 

The decision will continued to be pushed back imo. 

[MagCA]

Just now, Stifler said:

I wouldn’t worry about it, we’ll be getting a new stadium.

I’m not convinced but let’s see, have to wait until the end of the season now anyway by the sounds of it. 
 

Make a decision, lads. 

[Ketsbaia]

60,000 isn't worth having free conversation about, never mind spending hundreds of millions on    Surely there's no way that'll be the decision.

[Superior Acuña]

For context the Emirates, Anfield, London and Tottenham stadiums are all 60 704 - 62 850.

[Stifler]

1 minute ago, Whitley mag said:

The line that St James apart from the Gallowgate wouldn’t change significantly is a bit disappointing, if that was the option and it’d cost a billion.

 

 LI would have thought St James as opposed to the new stadium would have been the bubble wrap option.

From how I have read it, the bubble wrap option is just 1 possible look for a new stadium. They have invited architects to create proposals, and that is KSS’.

I very much doubt the club would be willing to spend up to £4bn to have a copy and paste of the Allianz arena.

[Stifler]

1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said:

The decision will continued to be pushed back imo. 

It would still be writhing their spring deadline to be honest.

Some Twitter gobshite said March, and everyone ran with it.

[NSG]

Wouldn’t surprise me if they were drop feeding a “SJP renovation would be a bit shit and only a few more seats” line to the press to push people towards the new stadium option.

[LFEE]

1 minute ago, Superior Acuña said:

For context the Emirates, Anfield, London and Tottenham stadiums are all 60 704 - 62 850.

Arsenal extending there’s. To 70k+. Liverpool also not quite finished expanding there’s. 60k big enough for Spurs for a while yet. Especially under Levy 

[Stifler]

3 minutes ago, MagCA said:

I’m not convinced but let’s see, have to wait until the end of the season now anyway by the sounds of it. 
 

Make a decision, lads. 

Me and LFEE were at the NUST meeting last night. Nothing of detail was said, but it was said that the feeling they are getting is that we are moving and the decision is made.

[SUPERTOON]

2 minutes ago, Stifler said:

It would still be writhing their spring deadline to be honest.

Some Twitter gobshite said March, and everyone ran with it.

Didn’t someone at the club say January and then change it to March ?

[Stifler]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

Didn’t someone at the club say January and then change it to March ?

Officially the club have always said Spring.

[Dr.Spaceman]

6 minutes ago, NSG said:

Wouldn’t surprise me if they were drop feeding a “SJP renovation would be a bit shit and only a few more seats” line to the press to push people towards the new stadium option.

 

We've been doing that on here for ages.

[CheikBoom]

It feels like they clubs drip feeding we’re leaving. For 60k I’d rather just build a new stadium within the city

[J7]

9 minutes ago, NSG said:

Wouldn’t surprise me if they were drop feeding a “SJP renovation would be a bit shit and only a few more seats” line to the press to push people towards the new stadium option.

I hope this is the case. There would be little point. The Gallowgate is the only decent part of the ground imo. A new stand would be pretty underwhelming. Has to be a new stadium.

[The Prophet]

I haven't seen the SJP expansion plans, I've read they're ambitious, but I've decided it would be a waste of money.

[JonBez comesock]

Once in a lifetime opportunity 

 

One Cheque 

 

Rchest Owners that can actually spend on infrastructure 

 

2 years feasibility study just to extend the gallowgate and gain 8000 extra seats ??

 

Makes no sense, not cost effective, wouldn’t help PSR 

 

Alsio we don’t even own the land / ground ?

 

All points to New Stadium?

 

If not , it makes zero sense