St James' Park

[El Prontonise]

4 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

It's still on the edge of the city centre.

 

The northern English cities just don't have meaningful green spaces in their urban centres in my experience. Leeds and Manchester in particular are God awful concrete jungles imo.

 

British cities in general I feel are terrible for green spaces in their cities compared to our European counterparts for example.

[Toon1984]

27 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

 

British cities in general I feel are terrible for green spaces in their cities compared to our European counterparts for example.

Never been to London then?

[Disco]

Companies working with the club have been working with the council to use data and background docs from adjacent recent developments to help inform their work according to my sources so it sounds like progress is still happening at whatever rate it is. 

 

Got to wonder if D.Ealesy will slow everything up further though. 

[Bondedcrown]

Strictly speaking St James is as much on the edge of the city centre? 

[midds]

You can sit in the Gallowgate and be about 450m from Grey's Monument. It's about as city centre as it's possible to get tbh

 

It's why Newcastle (A) is many fans' favourite awayday on the calendar. Off the train/bus and bosh - city centre, great food, drinking options, no fucking about with taxis and getting about and it's also a fucking mint city to be in even on the worst of days

[Holloway]

And no 'home fans only' shite 

[TheBrownBottle]

4 hours ago, Fenham Mag said:

Rachel Locke has just lost her argument as it is clear what her intentions are and it's not protecting hedgehogs with that 'Saudi Super Stadium' jibe. 

Nah, that’s not fair like - she’s been involved in this stuff for years, and not just re Leazes Park

 

That doesn’t mean I agree with her - but I don’t think she’s just doing this to fuck the club ovet

[Groundhog63]

4 hours ago, Fenham Mag said:

Rachel Locke has just lost her argument as it is clear what her intentions are and it's not protecting hedgehogs with that 'Saudi Super Stadium' jibe. 

 

Hoy, don't fuck with the Hedgehogs, you fucking West End philistine. 

 

🦔 💩 in ya mush

[et tu brute]

26 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Nah, that’s not fair like - she’s been involved in this stuff for years, and not just re Leazes Park

 

That doesn’t mean I agree with her - but I don’t think she’s just doing this to fuck the club ovet

She's not doing it to protect Leazes Park though, the place is an actual dump now and is getting worse by the day. She also doesn't mention anything about rats running all over the park either. She's not fucking the club over, but feels the necessity to state Saudi super stadium to enforce a point. Nah fuck her

[Stifler]

I love how in her Facebook post sharing the petition she says and insinuates that the FAB have a close relationship with Newcastle City Council. That ‘close relationship’ is limited to 1 FAB member who is a Newcastle City Council Councillor.

 

However she seems to neglect the fact that the very same FAB member is also the chairwoman of Friends of Leazes Park.

[mattypnufc]

In her defence, pointing out the impact to wildlife is a good thing.  The challenges the world faces and the impact it has on the ecosystem is huge, despite this only being a small part of it, any change to such things effects everyone, and everyone should be more aware of such things.  Its equally fine for people to challenge these thoughts, when plans have not been announced.  If the club plan for the Leazes move and offset the impact by creating an equal or better greenspace, then the impact is lessened.  To pre-emptively challenge based on hearsay does no one any favours.  Its fine to raise awareness, but the usage of Saudi Super Stadium shows level of pettiness and damages the challenge overall.  

[et tu brute]

1 minute ago, mattypnufc said:

In her defence, pointing out the impact to wildlife is a good thing.  The challenges the world faces and the impact it has on the ecosystem is huge, despite this only being a small part of it, any change to such things effects everyone, and everyone should be more aware of such things.  Its equally fine for people to challenge these thoughts, when plans have not been announced.  If the club plan for the Leazes move and offset the impact by creating an equal or better greenspace, then the impact is lessened.  To pre-emptively challenge based on hearsay does no one any favours.  Its fine to raise awareness, but the usage of Saudi Super Stadium shows level of pettiness and damages the challenge overall.  

She makes sure she doesn't mention the rats though, which will be having a very negative effect on the park and the wildlife. Obviously doesn't fit her narrative though.

[mattypnufc]

Just now, et tu brute said:

She makes sure she doesn't mention the rats though, which will be having a very negative effect on the park and the wildlife. Obviously doesn't fit her narrative though.

Tbf Rats are still part of the ecosystem, and whether we like them or not, provide food to microorganisms, invertebrates, help with some elements of pest control despite being pests themselves, and other things such as pollination/seeding etc in the circle of the wider ecosystem. They do however need to be managed in terms of numbers. 

[SteV]

3 minutes ago, mattypnufc said:

Tbf Rats are still part of the ecosystem, and whether we like them or not, provide food to microorganisms, invertebrates, help with some elements of pest control despite being pests themselves, and other things such as pollination/seeding etc in the circle of the wider ecosystem. They do however need to be managed in terms of numbers. 

And according to Liverpool Twitter they’ve started speaking Spanish.

[Holloway]

[Nucasol]

6 minutes ago, mattypnufc said:

Tbf Rats are still part of the ecosystem, and whether we like them or not, provide food to microorganisms, invertebrates, help with some elements of pest control despite being pests themselves, and other things such as pollination/seeding etc in the circle of the wider ecosystem. They do however need to be managed in terms of numbers. 

Alreet Attenborough.

[et tu brute]

9 minutes ago, mattypnufc said:

Tbf Rats are still part of the ecosystem, and whether we like them or not, provide food to microorganisms, invertebrates, help with some elements of pest control despite being pests themselves, and other things such as pollination/seeding etc in the circle of the wider ecosystem. They do however need to be managed in terms of numbers. 

Which they aren't being. I've got no sympathy with what she is crapping on about, all done before a plan has even been submitted. Leazes Park is neglected, overgrown, rats all over and no plans for any restoration. The new stadium will see an increased park size than currently and I'm 100% certain the club will ensure that the park is brought to a high standard and will have discussed all implications with wildlife and have plans in place for this also. Sorry to me it is an agenda with the help of the sad mackem cunts signing up. As I said fuck her, she's going to look a mug when the plans are announced 

[PauloGeordio]

 

[manorpark]

21 hours ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

 

I wouldn't consider it in the city centre really, most people aren't going to walk to the town moor for a quick lunch break etc. 

 

 

 

 

Our main City Centre Parks (some laid out in Victorian Style, some not) remain, as always, as Exhibition Park, Town Moor (including Castle Leazes Moor etc etc) and Leazes Park.

 

That is just how it is, we are very lucky to have all of these attached to our urban City Centre.

 

 

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by manorpark

[AyeDubbleYoo]

6 minutes ago, manorpark said:

 

Our main City Centre Parks (some laid out in Victorian Style, some not) remain, as always, as Exhibition Park, Town Moor (including Castle Leazes Moor etc etc) and Leazes Park.

 

That is just how it is, we are very lucky to have all of these attached to our urban City Centre.

 

I know which parks they are, but I don’t consider them usable in the same way as some London parks, for example. In those cases the parks are surrounded by the city, people live and work more around them. The park is more a part of everyday life. I guess also because most people don’t have a garden or any outside space at home. 
 

Maybe it’s just me. 

[manorpark]

9 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I know which parks they are, but I don’t consider them usable in the same way as some London parks, for example. In those cases the parks are surrounded by the city, people live and work more around them. The park is more a part of everyday life. I guess also because most people don’t have a garden or any outside space at home. 
 

Maybe it’s just me. 

 

Yes, I lived next door to Regents Park in London for a number of years, used to play football, cricket and tennis there regularly, so central London Parks are good, but very much so are central Newcastle Parks.

 

A much enhanced Leazes Park, after our 70.000 seater new stadium replaces our old St James' Park, will then then be even better, and certainly much better for the residents of Leazes Terrace.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Yeah definitely, hopefully that’ll be part of the plans and head off any objections about green space. 
 

FWIW I play tennis in Leazes Park and I still think it’s generally nice. At least at that end. 

[Monters]

1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

I know which parks they are, but I don’t consider them usable in the same way as some London parks, for example. In those cases the parks are surrounded by the city, people live and work more around them. The park is more a part of everyday life. I guess also because most people don’t have a garden or any outside space at home. 
 

Maybe it’s just me. 

No I agree in the main - they are all north of the city centre and I've never really classed the Town Moor as a park and exhibition park was mullered for the central motorway and T Dan Smith's alleged corruption.

I will caveat that the city centre is tiny in comparison to most cities and public transport in Newcastle is awful. However if you consider St James' as in the city then Leazes Park definitely is as well but the club could be about to drastically change that - hopefully for the better as I am fully on board the new stadium train.

 

 

Edited 27 minutes ago by Monters

[Fenham Mag]

13 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

Yeah definitely, hopefully that’ll be part of the plans and head off any objections about green space. 
 

FWIW I play tennis in Leazes Park and I still think it’s generally nice. At least at that end. 

 

It would be great to see some sort of sports club open as part of the overall plan, with mixed courts for padel etc. Even throw a few clay courts in to make us fancy like the French and Spanish.

[Wallsendmag]

18 hours ago, mattypnufc said:

In her defence, pointing out the impact to wildlife is a good thing.  The challenges the world faces and the impact it has on the ecosystem is huge, despite this only being a small part of it, any change to such things effects everyone, and everyone should be more aware of such things.  Its equally fine for people to challenge these thoughts, when plans have not been announced.  If the club plan for the Leazes move and offset the impact by creating an equal or better greenspace, then the impact is lessened.  To pre-emptively challenge based on hearsay does no one any favours.  Its fine to raise awareness, but the usage of Saudi Super Stadium shows level of pettiness and damages the challenge overall.  

 

By wildlife she means rats. I walked through that park last year for the first time in about 5 or 6 years and couldn't believe the state they've let it get in. Its main inhabitants these days are rats and druggies.

 

If nobody can be bothered to maintain it and look after it's upkeep, not to mention policing it to chase out the undesirables then what's the point in it being there?

 

Surely a land swap with SJP whereby SJP is turned into a lovely park in itself which people will actually use and walk though en route to SJP like at places like Bayer Leverkusen and Eintracht Frankfurt would be a winner. No doubt PIF would even take care or contribute towards its upkeep.