madras Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 it's football that lost it's soul but i'm addicted. i don't recall complaints when shirt advertising was brought in or the gallowgate became whatever the hell it's now called. Shirt advertising replaced nothing, the Gallowgate name changed when the Gallowgate was replaced with a new stand which was given a new name. of course it replaced stuff, a big blue star replaced black and white stripes on the front of the shirt. whatever the new name is for the gallowgate replaced gallowgate on my season ticket (which is basically all the stadium name change is) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I am fully behind the name change in a purely professional business basis. Football is a business like it or not, so all decisions need to be based on such. The re-naming, as long as the club secures the appropriate funding, is the correct decision Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 of course it replaced stuff, a big blue star replaced black and white stripes on the front of the shirt. whatever the new name is for the gallowgate replaced gallowgate on my season ticket (which is basically all the stadium name change is) The black and white stripes weren't replaced, the blue star was positioned on a black stripe in the centre of the shirt, below the unbro and club badge. As for the Gallowgate, did we have season tickets before it was rebuilt? Also, the Gallowgate was replaced, St James' hasn't been so it's not the same. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I am fully behind the name change in a purely professional business basis. Football is a business like it or not, so all decisions need to be based on such. The re-naming, as long as the club secures the appropriate funding, is the correct decision Rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I am fully behind the name change in a purely professional business basis. Football is a business like it or not, so all decisions need to be based on such. The re-naming, as long as the club secures the appropriate funding, is the correct decision and change it back if it doesn't. i think most are of the opinion though that they have no intention of trying to find a new name sponsor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicko2ndbest Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I am fully behind the name change in a purely professional business basis. Football is a business like it or not, so all decisions need to be based on such. The re-naming, as long as the club secures the appropriate funding, is the correct decision Rubbish. Ironic having read your musings! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlito Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I am fully behind the name change in a purely professional business basis. Football is a business like it or not, so all decisions need to be based on such. The re-naming, as long as the club secures the appropriate funding, is the correct decision To me, the name St. James' Park is a part of our club's character and soul, and should have been left well alone. In my opinion our investment in the first team will always remain as it is now because MA is a proven liar. He'd sell his own mother for the right price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Ironic having read your musings! It's irony all round then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I am fully behind the name change in a purely professional business basis. Football is a business like it or not, so all decisions need to be based on such. The re-naming, as long as the club secures the appropriate funding, is the correct decision So how long does it have to be in Sports Direct Arena limbo without securing the appropriate funding before you conceed it was the incorrect decision? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Anybody who thinks a football club is just like any other business clearly don't know what they are talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Anybody who thinks a football club is just like any other business clearly don't know what they are talking about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 of course it replaced stuff, a big blue star replaced black and white stripes on the front of the shirt. whatever the new name is for the gallowgate replaced gallowgate on my season ticket (which is basically all the stadium name change is) The black and white stripes weren't replaced, the blue star was positioned on a black stripe in the centre of the shirt, below the unbro and club badge. As for the Gallowgate, did we have season tickets before it was rebuilt? Also, the Gallowgate was replaced, St James' hasn't been so it's not the same. How much of the current St James Park is original? Taking the logic that the Gallowgate has been replace, then surely the current stadium has been in place since around 1999/2000 in its total form? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Anybody who thinks a football club is just like any other business clearly don't know what they are talking about. Try running it without customers, employees, paying taxes etc etc. The only difference to most businesses (but not all) is the emotional attachment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 How much of the current St James Park is original? Taking the logic that the Gallowgate has been replace, then surely the current stadium has been in place since around 1999/2000 in its total form? The land that the ground is built on is St James' Park, it's older than the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 How much of the current St James Park is original? Taking the logic that the Gallowgate has been replace, then surely the current stadium has been in place since around 1999/2000 in its total form? The land that the ground is built on is St James' Park, it's older than the club. I'm sure it wasn't called SJP 2000 years ago....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Anybody who thinks a football club is just like any other business clearly don't know what they are talking about. Try running it without customers, employees, paying taxes etc etc. The only difference to most businesses (but not all) is the emotional attachment That is a massive, massive difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I'm sure it wasn't called SJP 2000 years ago....... I'm sure the club isn't 2000 years old, stop playing up to your stereotype. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 I'm sure it wasn't called SJP 2000 years ago....... I'm sure the club isn't 2000 years old, stop playing up to your stereotype. You're playing to yours as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCONA Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Don't anyone kid themselves.. Newcastle united is an investment to him. He hasn't cleared our debt out of goodwill, he's cleared it because after he bought nufc it was his debt. If he gave 2 shits about what fans opinions are he wouldn't be messing with the stadium name as he has done. And the only chance of the name SJP being restored is if either someone else buys nufc or if us fans continue to kick up enough fuss to make it not worth his effort Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 The worry I have is the permanence. 5 years time and it's stll named after some shit corporate sponsor. Growing fans still going to staunchly be calling it s jp? Rather not be open to chance of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 He owns the club, He spent blah blah blah and we buy a product from him - that's how he see's it. If we don't like the product we should look at other brands on offer for a similar price - hell he will probably start price matching next. "If you can see a premier league game for less than here we will match that price" He is a businessman plain and simple and looks for additional revenue streams where possible, there is no room for sentiment in business despite what the customers are passionate about. I personally fucking hate the ripping down of signs and changing our identity but its his business and I buy a product and will likely continue to do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 What annoys me is that when he sells the club he new owner/the club has to pay him back £10million a year for 10 years because of the interest free loan he gave to the club. On top of this though he's getting his free £10million a year shit all over the stadium. Surely that should be deducted? But no of course it won't be. He is and will get a hell of a lot of money back for the owning of this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 What annoys me is that when he sells the club he new owner/the club has to pay him back £10million a year for 10 years because of the interest free loan he gave to the club. On top of this though he's getting his free £10million a year shit all over the stadium. Surely that should be deducted? But no of course it won't be. He is and will get a hell of a lot of money back for the owning of this club. That doesn't make sense mate tbh. Ashley as it stands has still lost an astonishing amount of money which is his own stupid fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 What annoys me is that when he sells the club he new owner/the club has to pay him back £10million a year for 10 years because of the interest free loan he gave to the club. On top of this though he's getting his free £10million a year s*** all over the stadium. Surely that should be deducted? But no of course it won't be. He is and will get a hell of a lot of money back for the owning of this club. That doesn't make sense mate tbh. Ashley as it stands has still lost an astonishing amount of money which is his own stupid fault. He has paid the debts off for the club. Not through his own personal gesture, but to keep the club afloat. I'm sure he has it written in that the club will repay him this debt. So when he leaves the club will pay him the total of £100 million quid. On top of this add up all the penny pinching and net spend over the years and the free hoardings/naming rights of the stadium. At the minute he might be out of pocket, but by the time he leaves he will have advertised his company worldwide for x amount of years. and will get a hell of a lot of money back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie_b Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 And the difference between what he paid for the club and what he will get when he sells it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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