St James' Park

[Joseph]

Strong out-of-town energy from young Loki. Please post the coordinates of the home you grew up in?

[loki679]

25.5184119512 12.191221514

 

 

Edited December 5, 2022 by loki679

[Coffee_Johnny]

2 hours ago, loki679 said:

25.5184119512 12.191221514

 

 

 

I’m geographically befuddled, is that Libya or Longbenton? 

[loki679]

19 minutes ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

I’m geographically befuddled, is that Libya or Longbenton? 

 

[Coffee_Johnny]

Not sure that helps on the ol’ befuddlement front Loki Lad! 
 

pssst! Are you a secret agent? 

[tomlynnherrington]

3 hours ago, Joseph said:

It’s mostly out-of-towners who are so keen to move. No real connection to the city, so what does it matter to them? They just want to be able to brag about attendances to their Man Utd supporting mates in Darlington and make sure they and their mute children/missus can get tickets when it suits 

 

This theory is 100% fact by the way.

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[loki679]

7 hours ago, Coffee_Johnny said:

Not sure that helps on the ol’ befuddlement front Loki Lad! 
 

pssst! Are you a secret agent? 

 

Ha!  Dont tell anyone.

 

25.5184119512 12.191221514 = 25 5 18 4 1 19 5 12 12 19 1 22 15 14

[Mr Pups]

On 05/12/2022 at 08:34, Wallsendmag said:

 

Eh? There was a mass pitch invasion at Man Citys last home game of the season as 1000s of fans poured onto the pitch to celebrate, which they were fined for!

aye, forgot about that. Miscreants

[Mr Pups]

I think further proof will be staying at St James' Park is Euro 2028. Even if we submitted plans tomorrow for a new stadium I doubt 5 years is enough time. England is destined to get the Euros with Turkey not favourable and as for Russia being successful in their bid....

It will be a shootout between St James' and the Mackem flea pit. Anyone with half a brain would know which one is more desirable without even considering which offers more hospitality, even beyond the actual stadium (or in layman's terms you could ask which city out the 2 is a shithole?)

Without doubt, St James' park will need upgraded for the tournament and it's evident that is already happening. I love what the owners have done with the exterior of the ground around the GWC near Bobby's statue, especially when it's lit up at night. And of course like many parts of the ground they've replaced shambolic SD graffiti with NUFC prestige. 

I would ask one question, If St James' park is selected, will it receive any funding that would 'assist' the massive cost of expansion? I know its not the WC, but I remember the development of German Stadiums prior to that tournament was huge. 

With the focus on capacity, St James' already meets the criteria for size, but surely it's an opportunity to showcase NUFC on an international stage? and what's better than showing off additions to europe's tallest cantilever right in the middle of the UK's finest most fun city? 

It's got to be said that in Euro 96 crowds were poor especially with overseas fans (was expensive too), but the city has grown since then and bigger capacity would also encourage them to use St James' for the later stages and not just for group games. 

The decision for euro 28 will be made on september 2023, by then work will have been mostly completed on strawberry place allowing the club to press on with expansion options. 

 

A modest 60000 increase will be likely be the way forward for the immediate future and THEN they'll probably decide if a new stadium is required OR press ahead with another 5000. 

 

 

[Nun tumblers]

A new 70k plus staduim just north of SJP should be a priority,with all the planned developments behind the gallowgate, hotels etc how expensive is it going to be to add 8k more seats 2mile up in the air .

 

 

[JonBez comesock]

1 hour ago, Nun tumblers said:

A new 70k plus staduim just north of SJP should be a priority,with all the planned developments behind the gallowgate, hotels etc how expensive is it going to be to add 8k more seats 2mile up in the air .

 

 

I couldn’t disagree more 

 

Absolutely no way would I want to leave St James Park 

 

We don’t need the extra revenue from 10,000 or 20,000 seats 

 

Money comes from sponsorship , commercial, Tv , champions league , etc 

 

If we can get to 60,000 at St James park that’s enough 

 

Bigger crowd / More people doesn’t always mean better atmosphere.

 

Ive been to games at St James park with 25,000 ( Leeds 5-2 , Micky Quinn 4) which have been better than 52,000 at a league game.

Our ground is unique , we need to keep some of our heritage / tradition and turn St James Park into a fortress 

 

Yes it would be great if we can extend the ground and I am all for it , but 70,000 is not needed.

 

60,000 at St James Park , with 15,000 standing area and we are good to go ??

 

 

 

 

[GWN]

It wouldn’t be the same away from the city centre , end of.

[et tu brute]

Just now, GWN said:

It wouldn’t be the same away from the city centre , end of.

I agree on this, I still think a new stadium is they way to go though due to restrictions, financial costs and the fact that there will have to be either closures to big parts of the stadium/ground share for any extension. Going to be interesting to see what they actually decide to progress. 

[Wandy]

50 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said:

I couldn’t disagree more 

 

Absolutely no way would I want to leave St James Park 

 

We don’t need the extra revenue from 10,000 or 20,000 seats 

 

Money comes from sponsorship , commercial, Tv , champions league , etc 

 

If we can get to 60,000 at St James park that’s enough 

 

Bigger crowd / More people doesn’t always mean better atmosphere.

 

Ive been to games at St James park with 25,000 ( Leeds 5-2 , Micky Quinn 4) which have been better than 52,000 at a league game.

Our ground is unique , we need to keep some of our heritage / tradition and turn St James Park into a fortress 

 

Yes it would be great if we can extend the ground and I am all for it , but 70,000 is not needed.

 

60,000 at St James Park , with 15,000 standing area and we are good to go ??

 

 

Are you a current season ticket holder?

[Guybrush]

21 minutes ago, GWN said:

It wouldn’t be the same away from the city centre , end of.

This. Renovation not relocation.

[JonBez comesock]

1 minute ago, Wandy said:

 

Are you a current season ticket holder?

Nope , Just a member 

 

Bought 4 memberships in the summer for the family.

 

I have been able to get tickets for every match so far.

 

Best £90 I’ve spent (2 adult / 2 junior memberships) 

 

If we can add on 10,000 to St James park , I think that’s enough.

 

Liverpool have done ok with 54,000 capacity 

Man City , 60,000?

Arsenal 60,000

 

[Guest]

The solution to our problems 

[Tiresias]

I've said it before and I've said it again, I absolutely do not want us to move St James Park. It is the most perfectly placed stadium in the country. If I had my way I would knock down all the crap new buildings going up around it as well. It is to me brilliant that it is visible from the rest of the town up on the hill. 

 

I am all for rebuilding it, and if a small move I would consider it. 

[Wandy]

15 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said:

Nope , Just a member 

 

Bought 4 memberships in the summer for the family.

 

I have been able to get tickets for every match so far.

 

Best £90 I’ve spent (2 adult / 2 junior memberships) 

 

If we can add on 10,000 to St James park , I think that’s enough.

 

Liverpool have done ok with 54,000 capacity 

Man City , 60,000?

Arsenal 60,000

 

 

Man City have peaked in terms of their potential. They do not have the same potential for crowd sizes as NUFC because they have to share Greater Manchester with MUFC.

 

Liverpool could fill a 70K stadium but FSG don't want to spend the money doing it. Arsenal were hemmed in by the surrounding areas of The Emirates so had to make do with 60k. That stadium is already starting to look dated IMO.

 

70K is the sweet spot for NUFC. Another 8k seats simply allows for those who have walked away to come back. There needs to be another 10k on top of that for the next generation of supporters otherwise we will just have a repeat of the 90s when thousands were unable to go to games.

[Wandy]

17 minutes ago, Jack27 said:

The solution to our problems 

 

This idea is a load of nonsense. You can clearly see that the finished article still massively impedes Leazes Terrace. It's a non starter.

[Wandy]

8 minutes ago, Tiresias said:

I've said it before and I've said it again, I absolutely do not want us to move St James Park. It is the most perfectly placed stadium in the country. If I had my way I would knock down all the crap new buildings going up around it as well. It is to me brilliant that it is visible from the rest of the town up on the hill. 

 

I am all for rebuilding it, and if a small move I would consider it. 

 

I don't know why it keeps being peddled that people want to move SJP away from the city centre. Absolutely nobody has even suggested it. A move 100 yards north is not "moving away". It's simply a tiny relocation of the current stadium and location.

[TRon]

29 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said:

Nope , Just a member 

 

Bought 4 memberships in the summer for the family.

 

I have been able to get tickets for every match so far.

 

Best £90 I’ve spent (2 adult / 2 junior memberships) 

 

If we can add on 10,000 to St James park , I think that’s enough.

 

Liverpool have done ok with 54,000 capacity 

Man City , 60,000?

Arsenal 60,000

 

 

I wasn't even aware that a membership got you priority for buying tickets. I'm pretty sure a lot of people would be unaware that tickets are available other than queueing on match day, if it becomes common knowledge then I think the demand would far outstrip supply.

[Manxst]

14 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

I wasn't even aware that a membership got you priority for buying tickets. I'm pretty sure a lot of people would be unaware that tickets are available other than queueing on match day, if it becomes common knowledge then I think the demand would far outstrip supply.

It does. That’s why the membership access had to be curtailed after a certain number were sold. 

[Wallsendmag]

48 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said:

Nope , Just a member 

 

Bought 4 memberships in the summer for the family.

 

I have been able to get tickets for every match so far.

 

Best £90 I’ve spent (2 adult / 2 junior memberships) 

 

If we can add on 10,000 to St James park , I think that’s enough.

 

Liverpool have done ok with 54,000 capacity 

Man City , 60,000?

Arsenal 60,000

 

 

Liverpool can't be too happy with their current 54k as they are currently in the process of expanding Anfield. It's clear as day that the SJP capacity is inadequate. Even early round League Cup games are selling out!

 

And the club haven't achieved anything yet. One of the things the owners are commited to is growing the fanbase both in this country and abroad. We need a bigger capacity one way or another to help facilitate this. Also they need to be looking ahead. At present there's already a generation of fans can't get to away games because they don't have the loyalty points. It would be a crying shame if the same was happening at home. You can't even buy a membership now.

[Nun tumblers]

When I said just north of SJP where talking 250 yards north .if it ever was a goer you could argue the arena site is a better location,what the toon can become over the next couple of decades SJP has had its day the next generation couldn't give a fig about SJP we need to move with the times.