Ronaldo Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Can't believe people don't think we need another defender. We've only really got the relatively untested Kadar as cover for Enrique, Colo and Steven Taylor. We've got 5 defenders in the squad fit for championship football, of course we need another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 It would be an unbelievable signing even on loan considering, if he's available then i doubt it if some prem relegation scrappers wouldn't be after him also. Lets hope Colo or Taylor aren't going out the door and this is cover. I'd shift Taylor at full-back if this actually did happen. Then he would give us some extra umph (aye I said that) going forward as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Davies is better than Taylor in the centre, that's certainly what i'd do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Davies is better than Taylor in the centre, that's certainly what i'd do. I haven't seen enough of him in all honesty over the past few years, and I don't know if his injuries have hampered him at all. Looked an excellent prospect for West Brom though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Davies is better than Taylor in the centre, that's certainly what i'd do. Yep, sounds good to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 How come he is so out of favour at Villa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 It would be an unbelievable signing even on loan considering, if he's available then i doubt it if some prem relegation scrappers wouldn't be after him also. Lets hope Colo or Taylor aren't going out the door and this is cover. I'd shift Taylor at full-back if this actually did happen. Then he would give us some extra umph (aye I said that) going forward as well. I'd rather not shift either of our own players to make way for a player just looking to get fit and return to his club. If I was pushed i'd move Colo to RB over Taylor. Taylor is here to stay, Colo is passing through and Taylor doesn't deserve to be moved out of position whatsoever, he's been just as good as Colo this season. Taylor needs settled games in the centre, finally for the first time in his career he's got the same manager for a season (not sure about that but i bet its not far off) and a constant partner. If Colo is staying next season he also needs games till the end of the season to get him ready for next year (if we do go up) so accommodating a player over them would be wrong imo. Plus we've signed Simpson, and same goes to him, he really does need games to get himself up to speed for the next season, regardless of division. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Liam Liam O Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 S Taylor Davies Colo Enrique That's a mid table premiership standard defence imo. Aye it looks about the same as yours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 S Taylor Davies Colo Enrique That's a mid table premiership standard defence imo. Aye it looks about the same as yours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 It would be an unbelievable signing even on loan considering, if he's available then i doubt it if some prem relegation scrappers wouldn't be after him also. Lets hope Colo or Taylor aren't going out the door and this is cover. I'd shift Taylor at full-back if this actually did happen. Then he would give us some extra umph (aye I said that) going forward as well. I'd rather not shift either of our own players to make way for a player just looking to get fit and return to his club. If I was pushed i'd move Colo to RB over Taylor. Taylor is here to stay, Colo is passing through and Taylor doesn't deserve to be moved out of position whatsoever, he's been just as good as Colo this season. Taylor needs settled games in the centre, finally for the first time in his career he's got the same manager for a season (not sure about that but i bet its not far off) and a constant partner. If Colo is staying next season he also needs games till the end of the season to get him ready for next year (if we do go up) so accommodating a player over them would be wrong imo. Plus we've signed Simpson, and same goes to him, he really does need games to get himself up to speed for the next season, regardless of division. Taylor has only ever been consistently good when played at RB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnypd Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 loan with an option for a permanent deal would be fantastic really. i'd also move Taylor to RB if this comes off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Davies on loan would be brilliant. Not sure about option to buy, he cost Villa £10m, he'd only be coming here to get fitness and games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 It would be an unbelievable signing even on loan considering, if he's available then i doubt it if some prem relegation scrappers wouldn't be after him also. Lets hope Colo or Taylor aren't going out the door and this is cover. I'd shift Taylor at full-back if this actually did happen. Then he would give us some extra umph (aye I said that) going forward as well. I'd rather not shift either of our own players to make way for a player just looking to get fit and return to his club. If I was pushed i'd move Colo to RB over Taylor. Taylor is here to stay, Colo is passing through and Taylor doesn't deserve to be moved out of position whatsoever, he's been just as good as Colo this season. Taylor needs settled games in the centre, finally for the first time in his career he's got the same manager for a season (not sure about that but i bet its not far off) and a constant partner. If Colo is staying next season he also needs games till the end of the season to get him ready for next year (if we do go up) so accommodating a player over them would be wrong imo. Plus we've signed Simpson, and same goes to him, he really does need games to get himself up to speed for the next season, regardless of division. Taylor has only ever been consistently good when played at RB. Whereas Colo's only ever looked half decent in England playing against sub standard CCC strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Colo has proved over a long period that he's an accomplished defender, Taylor hasn't, yet. Point to one bad season in the premiership for Colo whilst completeing ignoring Taylor's five. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Taylor has seriously never had, anywhere near, as bad a season as Colo did last year. Colo looked like a total imposter for 80% of it. Taylor's gone through fits and spurts of being absolute turd, but he's never been as consistently bad as Coloccini was last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Colo has proved over a long period that he's an accomplished defender, Taylor hasn't, yet. Point to one bad season in the premiership for Colo whilst completeing ignoring Taylor's five. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Taylor has seriously never had, anywhere near, as bad a season as Colo did last year. Colo looked like a total imposter for 80% of it. Taylor's gone through fits and spurts of being absolute turd, but he's never been as consistently bad as Coloccini was last year. Spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 It would be an unbelievable signing even on loan considering, if he's available then i doubt it if some prem relegation scrappers wouldn't be after him also. Lets hope Colo or Taylor aren't going out the door and this is cover. I'd shift Taylor at full-back if this actually did happen. Then he would give us some extra umph (aye I said that) going forward as well. I'd rather not shift either of our own players to make way for a player just looking to get fit and return to his club. If I was pushed i'd move Colo to RB over Taylor. Taylor is here to stay, Colo is passing through and Taylor doesn't deserve to be moved out of position whatsoever, he's been just as good as Colo this season. Taylor needs settled games in the centre, finally for the first time in his career he's got the same manager for a season (not sure about that but i bet its not far off) and a constant partner. If Colo is staying next season he also needs games till the end of the season to get him ready for next year (if we do go up) so accommodating a player over them would be wrong imo. Plus we've signed Simpson, and same goes to him, he really does need games to get himself up to speed for the next season, regardless of division. I'm more concerned about the club than the development of one player. Especially if it improves us as a team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 It would be an unbelievable signing even on loan considering, if he's available then i doubt it if some prem relegation scrappers wouldn't be after him also. Lets hope Colo or Taylor aren't going out the door and this is cover. I'd shift Taylor at full-back if this actually did happen. Then he would give us some extra umph (aye I said that) going forward as well. I'd rather not shift either of our own players to make way for a player just looking to get fit and return to his club. If I was pushed i'd move Colo to RB over Taylor. Taylor is here to stay, Colo is passing through and Taylor doesn't deserve to be moved out of position whatsoever, he's been just as good as Colo this season. Taylor needs settled games in the centre, finally for the first time in his career he's got the same manager for a season (not sure about that but i bet its not far off) and a constant partner. If Colo is staying next season he also needs games till the end of the season to get him ready for next year (if we do go up) so accommodating a player over them would be wrong imo. Plus we've signed Simpson, and same goes to him, he really does need games to get himself up to speed for the next season, regardless of division. I'm more concerned about the club than the development of one player. Especially if it improves us as a team. Fair enough, but not looking after the development of players has seen us where we are, a shite team which tried to buy its way out of trouble till the bubble burst. The likes of Milner & Zoggy continue to develop elsewhere while young talents worth anything choose any other club possible than have their careers end prematurely here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Taylor has seriously never had, anywhere near, as bad a season as Colo did last year. Colo looked like a total imposter for 80% of it. Taylor's gone through fits and spurts of being absolute turd, but he's never been as consistently bad as Coloccini was last year. Well..... Squad members good enough for top ten (individual quality): Fabricio Coloccini - has his moments but excellent aerially and positionally Squad members not good enough for top ten (individual quality): Steven Taylor - crap, barely good enough for this league This is about 60% into last season, doesn't appear that you considered him an imposter at that point. Unfortunately, his iffy form in the last 2 months, Shearer dropping him and our relegation has clouded your judgement. Agree with you point on Taylor though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I'm literally aghast at how you've managed to dig that up. Do you have a log or something? I must have been talking out of my arse on that particular occassion. I still stand by my last post, like. He's never had a season where he's been as consistently shite as Colo was last year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 Ronaldo,have you ever thought of getting a job with the Benefit Fraud Squad? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 It would be an unbelievable signing even on loan considering, if he's available then i doubt it if some prem relegation scrappers wouldn't be after him also. Lets hope Colo or Taylor aren't going out the door and this is cover. I'd shift Taylor at full-back if this actually did happen. Then he would give us some extra umph (aye I said that) going forward as well. I'd rather not shift either of our own players to make way for a player just looking to get fit and return to his club. If I was pushed i'd move Colo to RB over Taylor. Taylor is here to stay, Colo is passing through and Taylor doesn't deserve to be moved out of position whatsoever, he's been just as good as Colo this season. Taylor needs settled games in the centre, finally for the first time in his career he's got the same manager for a season (not sure about that but i bet its not far off) and a constant partner. If Colo is staying next season he also needs games till the end of the season to get him ready for next year (if we do go up) so accommodating a player over them would be wrong imo. Plus we've signed Simpson, and same goes to him, he really does need games to get himself up to speed for the next season, regardless of division. I'm more concerned about the club than the development of one player. Especially if it improves us as a team. Fair enough, but not looking after the development of players has seen us where we are, a shite team which tried to buy its way out of trouble till the bubble burst. The likes of Milner & Zoggy continue to develop elsewhere while young talents worth anything choose any other club possible than have their careers end prematurely here. It's getting a mixture of both, plus Taylor's best games have been at full-back for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Heneage Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 http://vogons.zetafleet.com/files/orly.jpg We need a smilie like that but with Ronaldo's face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 21, 2010 Share Posted January 21, 2010 I remember that post well because York was pretty much spot on with it. He's a good poster and I didn't expect that rubbish on the other page. Taylor could be an OK central defender in the premiership but has never looked like one to me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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