For those who think we need a full back before forwards

[NUFC06]

 

 

 

No goals scored in 470 minutes of football at home and the problem is the defence?

 

Its clear as day what the problem is. Our strikers are feeling their way back from injury and we need an attacking creative midfielder. Nothwithstanding questions about the manager, NE5's view of the team is increasingly vindicated.

Left back my arse.

 

Aye Babayaro and Carr will take care of that posistion next season yeah?

 

470 minutes without a goal and you are bringing up a player who isnt even playing! Brilliant and incisive comment.

 

The evidence is there for all to see, we need more attacking options.

 

 

You are spot on my apologies, we don't need a left back when we have Carr then.

 

I'm on about what we need for next seaon. Whats the point of more attacking options when its clear that we are

rubbish in defence

 

I thought Carr had a canny game yesterday. Credit where credit is due. The defence was not the problem yesterday it was a lack of cohesion going forward and no creativity.

 

 

;D

Aye because we didnt lose the game 2:0

Are you on glue or what???

 

 

No. You are clearly a retard for saying that though. Did you go to the game yesterday? Otherwise I cant see how you have the temerity to say that.

 

Only someone with the mental capacity of a 4 year old would base his argument on the result rather than actually the actual game itself. 

 

I dont argue that there is no connection between our midfield and our attack but saying that our defence was not the problem its just crazy

 

Failing to address a fact like 470 minutes without a goal is not just crazy, its stupid.

 

 

 

Why do you think we havent score a goal in 470 minutes?

Because we dont have quality strikers or because our manager is shit and under him we cant play football?

Just answer the question please...

[Howaythelads]

Why do you think we havent score a goal in 470 minutes?

Because we dont have quality strikers or because our manager is s*** and under him we cant play football?

Just answer the question please...

 

As Chez said,

 

Did you go to the game yesterday? Otherwise I cant see how you have the temerity to say that.

 

If not, what do you really know about the overall balance and structure of this football team and where the main problems are?

[NE5]

Isn't it obvious we need defenders and midfielders every bit as much as we need strikers?!

 

We haven't score in fucking ages, mainly because we've only had one fit striker capable of scoring goals all season, with Owen and Ameobi still short of match fitness the situation still hasn't got any better, next season we need another striker to boost the ranks in case injury hits us again.

 

Our midfield is absolutely shocking, are we the only team in the Premiership that play 2 holding men?! wouldn't surprise me if we were, on top of that Dyer is offering fuck all, N'Zogbia is average and massively overrated, Duff was a waste of money and Emre is always injured, Milner is the only bright spark from an attacking point of view from midfield and we've treated the lad like shit.

 

Then we get on to our defense, the only good defender we have is Taylor and he has more bad games than good, Ramage, Gooch, Babayaro, Carr and Moore are possibly the worst group of defenders in the league, our problems have been made worse by Bramble thinking he's Pirlo or something capable of pinging 70 yard balls about the place, only to give it away and put us straight back under pressure, the worst thing is he's been doing it for four fucking years! Our only bright spark has been Solano and he isn't even a defender, his lack of pace will soon be exposed if he's at right back next season.

 

As Gemmill said this club is in a shocking state, no coaching or tactics have gone into this team which is why we're getting shown up against the likes of Reading, Birmingham, Portsmouth etc and buying a striker, midfielder or defender would only paper over the cracks for so long.

 

Btw it's typical NE5 to ignore all this mess was brought on by Shepherd appointing two of the worst managers the Premiership has ever seen, both managers he backed in the beginning, and try and use the whole shambles as a point scoring exercise to try and make out he was right again.

 

Now if you don't mind I'm off to watch Arsenal vs Chelsea, two decent teams worth watching.

 

typical of Baggio and his ilk to think that the current board have ruined all the decades of trophies and success we had before they took control. Those were the days when we always appointed trophy winning managers, kept all our best players, bought all the top players at the right price at the right time and never made a bad signing, ever.

 

 

[NE5]

Why do you think we havent score a goal in 470 minutes?

Because we dont have quality strikers or because our manager is s*** and under him we cant play football?

Just answer the question please...

 

As Chez said,

 

Did you go to the game yesterday? Otherwise I cant see how you have the temerity to say that.

 

If not, what do you really know about the overall balance and structure of this football team and where the main problems are?

 

but, they are all entitled to their opinions, even when it is based on not seeing anything.

 

 

[GM]

Isn't it obvious we need defenders and midfielders every bit as much as we need strikers?!

 

We haven't score in fucking ages, mainly because we've only had one fit striker capable of scoring goals all season, with Owen and Ameobi still short of match fitness the situation still hasn't got any better, next season we need another striker to boost the ranks in case injury hits us again.

 

Our midfield is absolutely shocking, are we the only team in the Premiership that play 2 holding men?! wouldn't surprise me if we were, on top of that Dyer is offering fuck all, N'Zogbia is average and massively overrated, Duff was a waste of money and Emre is always injured, Milner is the only bright spark from an attacking point of view from midfield and we've treated the lad like shit.

 

Then we get on to our defense, the only good defender we have is Taylor and he has more bad games than good, Ramage, Gooch, Babayaro, Carr and Moore are possibly the worst group of defenders in the league, our problems have been made worse by Bramble thinking he's Pirlo or something capable of pinging 70 yard balls about the place, only to give it away and put us straight back under pressure, the worst thing is he's been doing it for four fucking years! Our only bright spark has been Solano and he isn't even a defender, his lack of pace will soon be exposed if he's at right back next season.

 

As Gemmill said this club is in a shocking state, no coaching or tactics have gone into this team which is why we're getting shown up against the likes of Reading, Birmingham, Portsmouth etc and buying a striker, midfielder or defender would only paper over the cracks for so long.

 

Btw it's typical NE5 to ignore all this mess was brought on by Shepherd appointing two of the worst managers the Premiership has ever seen, both managers he backed in the beginning, and try and use the whole shambles as a point scoring exercise to try and make out he was right again.

 

Now if you don't mind I'm off to watch Arsenal vs Chelsea, two decent teams worth watching.

 

typical of Baggio and his ilk to think that the current board have ruined all the decades of trophies and success we had before they took control. Those were the days when we always appointed trophy winning managers, kept all our best players, bought all the top players at the right price at the right time and never made a bad signing, ever.

 

 

What exactly is the point you're making here? I can't see it.

 

Can you explain how your reply to Baggio's post challenges anything in his post (which I thought was a lucidly descriptive and incisively critical post, by the way)?

[Cajun]

Again both goals came yesterday from too much space being afforded down the left side of the pitch. The second one the "left back" (Carr) was in the 18 yard box when Bentley was making a run from his own area right down the wing!

 

Yes we need more creativity in the team but the left side is weak as piss in regards to attacking and defending and unless this is sorted we will have massive problems again! If we ever want to get Duff anything like his past best (given up on N'Zogbia now tbh) he will need a competent player behind him so he is confident enough to play a little more freely and has some support.

[Howaythelads]

Isn't it obvious we need defenders and midfielders every bit as much as we need strikers?!

 

We haven't score in f****** ages, mainly because we've only had one fit striker capable of scoring goals all season, with Owen and Ameobi still short of match fitness the situation still hasn't got any better, next season we need another striker to boost the ranks in case injury hits us again.

 

Our midfield is absolutely shocking, are we the only team in the Premiership that play 2 holding men?! wouldn't surprise me if we were, on top of that Dyer is offering f*** all, N'Zogbia is average and massively overrated, Duff was a waste of money and Emre is always injured, Milner is the only bright spark from an attacking point of view from midfield and we've treated the lad like s***.

 

Then we get on to our defense, the only good defender we have is Taylor and he has more bad games than good, Ramage, Gooch, Babayaro, Carr and Moore are possibly the worst group of defenders in the league, our problems have been made worse by Bramble thinking he's Pirlo or something capable of pinging 70 yard balls about the place, only to give it away and put us straight back under pressure, the worst thing is he's been doing it for four f****** years! Our only bright spark has been Solano and he isn't even a defender, his lack of pace will soon be exposed if he's at right back next season.

 

As Gemmill said this club is in a shocking state, no coaching or tactics have gone into this team which is why we're getting shown up against the likes of Reading, Birmingham, Portsmouth etc and buying a striker, midfielder or defender would only paper over the cracks for so long.

 

Btw it's typical NE5 to ignore all this mess was brought on by Shepherd appointing two of the worst managers the Premiership has ever seen, both managers he backed in the beginning, and try and use the whole shambles as a point scoring exercise to try and make out he was right again.

 

Now if you don't mind I'm off to watch Arsenal vs Chelsea, two decent teams worth watching.

 

typical of Baggio and his ilk to think that the current board have ruined all the decades of trophies and success we had before they took control. Those were the days when we always appointed trophy winning managers, kept all our best players, bought all the top players at the right price at the right time and never made a bad signing, ever.

 

 

What exactly is the point you're making here? I can't see it.

 

Can you explain how your reply to Baggio's post challenges anything in his post (which I thought was a lucidly descriptive and incisively critical post, by the way)?

 

It's not hard to understand, tbh.

 

I'm sightly surprised as you're not as stupid as the other toonspastic wankers. I think you've made a judgement here before actually reading and understanding all of the post.

[Howaythelads]

Again both goals came yesterday from too much space being afforded down the left side of the pitch. The second one the "left back" (Carr) was in the 18 yard box when Bentley was making a run from his own area right down the wing!

 

Yes we need more creativity in the team but the left side is weak as piss in regards to attacking and defending and unless this is sorted we will have massive problems again! If we ever want to get Duff anything like his past best (given up on N'Zogbia now tbh) he will need a competent player behind him so he is confident enough to play a little more freely and has some support.

 

That must be something like 3 or 4 times now.

[GM]

Isn't it obvious we need defenders and midfielders every bit as much as we need strikers?!

 

We haven't score in f****** ages, mainly because we've only had one fit striker capable of scoring goals all season, with Owen and Ameobi still short of match fitness the situation still hasn't got any better, next season we need another striker to boost the ranks in case injury hits us again.

 

Our midfield is absolutely shocking, are we the only team in the Premiership that play 2 holding men?! wouldn't surprise me if we were, on top of that Dyer is offering f*** all, N'Zogbia is average and massively overrated, Duff was a waste of money and Emre is always injured, Milner is the only bright spark from an attacking point of view from midfield and we've treated the lad like s***.

 

Then we get on to our defense, the only good defender we have is Taylor and he has more bad games than good, Ramage, Gooch, Babayaro, Carr and Moore are possibly the worst group of defenders in the league, our problems have been made worse by Bramble thinking he's Pirlo or something capable of pinging 70 yard balls about the place, only to give it away and put us straight back under pressure, the worst thing is he's been doing it for four f****** years! Our only bright spark has been Solano and he isn't even a defender, his lack of pace will soon be exposed if he's at right back next season.

 

As Gemmill said this club is in a shocking state, no coaching or tactics have gone into this team which is why we're getting shown up against the likes of Reading, Birmingham, Portsmouth etc and buying a striker, midfielder or defender would only paper over the cracks for so long.

 

Btw it's typical NE5 to ignore all this mess was brought on by Shepherd appointing two of the worst managers the Premiership has ever seen, both managers he backed in the beginning, and try and use the whole shambles as a point scoring exercise to try and make out he was right again.

 

Now if you don't mind I'm off to watch Arsenal vs Chelsea, two decent teams worth watching.

 

typical of Baggio and his ilk to think that the current board have ruined all the decades of trophies and success we had before they took control. Those were the days when we always appointed trophy winning managers, kept all our best players, bought all the top players at the right price at the right time and never made a bad signing, ever.

 

 

What exactly is the point you're making here? I can't see it.

 

Can you explain how your reply to Baggio's post challenges anything in his post (which I thought was a lucidly descriptive and incisively critical post, by the way)?

 

It's not hard to understand, tbh.

 

I'm sightly surprised as you're not as stupid as the other toonspastic wankers. I think you've made a judgement here before actually reading and understanding all of the post.

 

So why don't you spell it out for me?

[Cajun]

Unless you cheer up I am not going to talk to you gloomy gus!

[Howaythelads]

Isn't it obvious we need defenders and midfielders every bit as much as we need strikers?!

 

We haven't score in f****** ages, mainly because we've only had one fit striker capable of scoring goals all season, with Owen and Ameobi still short of match fitness the situation still hasn't got any better, next season we need another striker to boost the ranks in case injury hits us again.

 

Our midfield is absolutely shocking, are we the only team in the Premiership that play 2 holding men?! wouldn't surprise me if we were, on top of that Dyer is offering f*** all, N'Zogbia is average and massively overrated, Duff was a waste of money and Emre is always injured, Milner is the only bright spark from an attacking point of view from midfield and we've treated the lad like s***.

 

Then we get on to our defense, the only good defender we have is Taylor and he has more bad games than good, Ramage, Gooch, Babayaro, Carr and Moore are possibly the worst group of defenders in the league, our problems have been made worse by Bramble thinking he's Pirlo or something capable of pinging 70 yard balls about the place, only to give it away and put us straight back under pressure, the worst thing is he's been doing it for four f****** years! Our only bright spark has been Solano and he isn't even a defender, his lack of pace will soon be exposed if he's at right back next season.

 

As Gemmill said this club is in a shocking state, no coaching or tactics have gone into this team which is why we're getting shown up against the likes of Reading, Birmingham, Portsmouth etc and buying a striker, midfielder or defender would only paper over the cracks for so long.

 

Btw it's typical NE5 to ignore all this mess was brought on by Shepherd appointing two of the worst managers the Premiership has ever seen, both managers he backed in the beginning, and try and use the whole shambles as a point scoring exercise to try and make out he was right again.

 

Now if you don't mind I'm off to watch Arsenal vs Chelsea, two decent teams worth watching.

 

typical of Baggio and his ilk to think that the current board have ruined all the decades of trophies and success we had before they took control. Those were the days when we always appointed trophy winning managers, kept all our best players, bought all the top players at the right price at the right time and never made a bad signing, ever.

 

 

What exactly is the point you're making here? I can't see it.

 

Can you explain how your reply to Baggio's post challenges anything in his post (which I thought was a lucidly descriptive and incisively critical post, by the way)?

 

It's not hard to understand, tbh.

 

I'm sightly surprised as you're not as stupid as the other toonspastic wankers. I think you've made a judgement here before actually reading and understanding all of the post.

 

So why don't you spell it out for me?

 

Can't be arsed, mate. Just read baggio's post from start to finish and I'm sure you'll see.

[GM]

Isn't it obvious we need defenders and midfielders every bit as much as we need strikers?!

 

We haven't score in f****** ages, mainly because we've only had one fit striker capable of scoring goals all season, with Owen and Ameobi still short of match fitness the situation still hasn't got any better, next season we need another striker to boost the ranks in case injury hits us again.

 

Our midfield is absolutely shocking, are we the only team in the Premiership that play 2 holding men?! wouldn't surprise me if we were, on top of that Dyer is offering f*** all, N'Zogbia is average and massively overrated, Duff was a waste of money and Emre is always injured, Milner is the only bright spark from an attacking point of view from midfield and we've treated the lad like s***.

 

Then we get on to our defense, the only good defender we have is Taylor and he has more bad games than good, Ramage, Gooch, Babayaro, Carr and Moore are possibly the worst group of defenders in the league, our problems have been made worse by Bramble thinking he's Pirlo or something capable of pinging 70 yard balls about the place, only to give it away and put us straight back under pressure, the worst thing is he's been doing it for four f****** years! Our only bright spark has been Solano and he isn't even a defender, his lack of pace will soon be exposed if he's at right back next season.

 

As Gemmill said this club is in a shocking state, no coaching or tactics have gone into this team which is why we're getting shown up against the likes of Reading, Birmingham, Portsmouth etc and buying a striker, midfielder or defender would only paper over the cracks for so long.

 

Btw it's typical NE5 to ignore all this mess was brought on by Shepherd appointing two of the worst managers the Premiership has ever seen, both managers he backed in the beginning, and try and use the whole shambles as a point scoring exercise to try and make out he was right again.

 

Now if you don't mind I'm off to watch Arsenal vs Chelsea, two decent teams worth watching.

 

typical of Baggio and his ilk to think that the current board have ruined all the decades of trophies and success we had before they took control. Those were the days when we always appointed trophy winning managers, kept all our best players, bought all the top players at the right price at the right time and never made a bad signing, ever.

 

 

What exactly is the point you're making here? I can't see it.

 

Can you explain how your reply to Baggio's post challenges anything in his post (which I thought was a lucidly descriptive and incisively critical post, by the way)?

 

It's not hard to understand, tbh.

 

I'm sightly surprised as you're not as stupid as the other toonspastic wankers. I think you've made a judgement here before actually reading and understanding all of the post.

 

So why don't you spell it out for me?

 

Can't be arsed, mate. Just read baggio's post from start to finish and I'm sure you'll see.

 

Erm. I already did. I still fail to see your kid brother's substantive point.

 

Why can't you be arsed? Is it because you think I'm on the wind-up?

 

I genuinely cannot see the relevance of NE5's post reply to Baggio.

 

If it's so self evident, please explain it to me!

[Cajun]

Cheer up HTL...

 

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/2896/htlwn5.jpg

[GM]

Why so quiet HTL?

 

I'd appreciate the courtesy of a response.

[NE5]

Isn't it obvious we need defenders and midfielders every bit as much as we need strikers?!

 

We haven't score in fucking ages, mainly because we've only had one fit striker capable of scoring goals all season, with Owen and Ameobi still short of match fitness the situation still hasn't got any better, next season we need another striker to boost the ranks in case injury hits us again.

 

Our midfield is absolutely shocking, are we the only team in the Premiership that play 2 holding men?! wouldn't surprise me if we were, on top of that Dyer is offering fuck all, N'Zogbia is average and massively overrated, Duff was a waste of money and Emre is always injured, Milner is the only bright spark from an attacking point of view from midfield and we've treated the lad like shit.

 

Then we get on to our defense, the only good defender we have is Taylor and he has more bad games than good, Ramage, Gooch, Babayaro, Carr and Moore are possibly the worst group of defenders in the league, our problems have been made worse by Bramble thinking he's Pirlo or something capable of pinging 70 yard balls about the place, only to give it away and put us straight back under pressure, the worst thing is he's been doing it for four fucking years! Our only bright spark has been Solano and he isn't even a defender, his lack of pace will soon be exposed if he's at right back next season.

 

As Gemmill said this club is in a shocking state, no coaching or tactics have gone into this team which is why we're getting shown up against the likes of Reading, Birmingham, Portsmouth etc and buying a striker, midfielder or defender would only paper over the cracks for so long.

 

Btw it's typical NE5 to ignore all this mess was brought on by Shepherd appointing two of the worst managers the Premiership has ever seen, both managers he backed in the beginning, and try and use the whole shambles as a point scoring exercise to try and make out he was right again.

 

Now if you don't mind I'm off to watch Arsenal vs Chelsea, two decent teams worth watching.

 

typical of Baggio and his ilk to think that the current board have ruined all the decades of trophies and success we had before they took control. Those were the days when we always appointed trophy winning managers, kept all our best players, bought all the top players at the right price at the right time and never made a bad signing, ever.

 

 

What exactly is the point you're making here? I can't see it.

 

Can you explain how your reply to Baggio's post challenges anything in his post (which I thought was a lucidly descriptive and incisively critical post, by the way)?

 

I'm surprised you ask this. Because you aren't an idiot like some people on here, and the majority of people who post on toonspastic.

 

The simple fact is that the post by Baggio is a typical comment he makes, as he constantly appears to lack a grasp of reality, in that he thinks that every other club except NUFC have DOF's, appoint perfect managers, buy the right players for the right fees at the right time, and win loads of trophies as a result.

 

So take the comment as you find it, which basically is a well deserved piss take.

 

At the end of the day, only 4 clubs have qualified for europe more than us over the past decade, which in a nutshell makes his apparent view that Newcastle United cannot do anything right, and all the other top clubs do things better than we do, all the time, to be an absolute and complete load of bollocks.

 

Unless of course you can produce some league positions, and facts to show this to be incorrect.

 

The comment "2 of the worst managers the premiership has seen" is typical of the bollocks he has posted, which i replied to. For starters, count how many clubs have finished below us in the last few years. And consider the fact, that some of his chums on toonspastic backed one of these "worst managers the premiership has seen" for the changes he made at the club until the day he left, and STILL  insist he was right to make such changes.

 

I think you ought to really be challenging such inconsistent and daft views mate, rather than picking up on an actual factual statement by me

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Dave]

Toonspastic.

 

Fucks sake lads, how old are you again?

[Guest TheOrder]

[NE5]

Toonspastic.

 

Fucks sake lads, how old are you again?

 

A fitting description for a site who is run by people with zero integrity.

 

And age doesn't come into it. If you want a site run by adults for adults, the situation would never arise in the first place.

 

 

[GM]

I'm surprised you ask this. Because you aren't an idiot like some people on here, and the majority of people who post on toonspastic.

 

The simple fact is that the post by Baggio is a typical comment he makes, as he constantly appears to lack a grasp of reality, in that he thinks that every other club except NUFC have DOF's, appoint perfect managers, buy the right players for the right fees at the right time, and win loads of trophies as a result.

 

So take the comment as you find it, which basically is a well deserved piss take.

 

At the end of the day, only 4 clubs have qualified for europe more than us over the past decade, which in a nutshell makes his apparent view that Newcastle United cannot do anything right, and all the other top clubs do things better than we do, all the time, to be an absolute and complete load of bollocks.

 

Unless of course you can produce some league positions, and facts to show this to be incorrect.

 

The comment "2 of the worst managers the premiership has seen" is typical of the bollocks he has posted, which i replied to. For starters, count how many clubs have finished below us in the last few years. And consider the fact, that some of his chums on toonspastic backed one of these "worst managers the premiership has seen" for the changes he made at the club until the day he left, and STILL  insist he was right to make such changes.

 

I think you ought to really be challenging such inconsistent and daft views mate, rather than picking up on an actual factual statement by me

 

I'm not interested in dragging up views that Baggio may or may not have held in the past. You know that opinions can change over time according to circumstance, right? I don't know why you have to keep harking back to the same stock arguments time after time. Baggio was talking about the now, primarily. His description of how he sees things with the team just NOW. And there is a lot wrong with the team and the way the club is being run NOW.

[NE5]

I'm surprised you ask this. Because you aren't an idiot like some people on here, and the majority of people who post on toonspastic.

 

The simple fact is that the post by Baggio is a typical comment he makes, as he constantly appears to lack a grasp of reality, in that he thinks that every other club except NUFC have DOF's, appoint perfect managers, buy the right players for the right fees at the right time, and win loads of trophies as a result.

 

So take the comment as you find it, which basically is a well deserved piss take.

 

At the end of the day, only 4 clubs have qualified for europe more than us over the past decade, which in a nutshell makes his apparent view that Newcastle United cannot do anything right, and all the other top clubs do things better than we do, all the time, to be an absolute and complete load of bollocks.

 

Unless of course you can produce some league positions, and facts to show this to be incorrect.

 

The comment "2 of the worst managers the premiership has seen" is typical of the bollocks he has posted, which i replied to. For starters, count how many clubs have finished below us in the last few years. And consider the fact, that some of his chums on toonspastic backed one of these "worst managers the premiership has seen" for the changes he made at the club until the day he left, and STILL  insist he was right to make such changes.

 

I think you ought to really be challenging such inconsistent and daft views mate, rather than picking up on an actual factual statement by me

 

I'm not interested in dragging up views that Baggio may or may not have held in the past. You know that opinions can change over time according to circumstance, right? I don't know why you have to keep harking back to the same stock arguments time after time. Baggio was talking about the now, primarily. His description of how he sees things with the team just NOW. And there is a lot wrong with the team and the way the club is being run NOW.

 

Sorry, but I think you should look at the section where Baggio made a reference to me. Unless of course you think it is alright for him to address me, and for me not to reply ?

 

I don't agree with Baggios view that having a DOF would cure all of Newcastle United's ills. I have said this in the past, and also asked what the situation would be if every club appointed a DOf !!!!!!!!!

 

My view, is that it is only the manager that counts. And whatever the organisation of the club, it doesn't change the fact that there are only 2 major domestic trophies to be won, and discounting anyone who doesn't win one of these as "failures" is, in my opinion, dumb and unrealistic.

 

However, it does show the rise in expecatations that the current board, who took over the club in 1992, have brought to the club. I realise not everyone will understand this, so all I can do is explain it as it is.

 

 

[thomas]

So if they don't take the blame for the appointments, who does?

[toontownman]

Duh the fans of course.. everyone knows fat man and the board listened to the fans and appointed the person they voted number one to take over... Glen Roeder!

 

Not their fault every toon fan wanted the wrong man. tbh I heard Freddy quite fancied Hitzfeld, never mind..

[NUFC06]

Isn't it obvious we need defenders and midfielders every bit as much as we need strikers?!

 

We haven't score in fucking ages, mainly because we've only had one fit striker capable of scoring goals all season, with Owen and Ameobi still short of match fitness the situation still hasn't got any better, next season we need another striker to boost the ranks in case injury hits us again.

 

Our midfield is absolutely shocking, are we the only team in the Premiership that play 2 holding men?! wouldn't surprise me if we were, on top of that Dyer is offering fuck all, N'Zogbia is average and massively overrated, Duff was a waste of money and Emre is always injured, Milner is the only bright spark from an attacking point of view from midfield and we've treated the lad like shit.

 

Then we get on to our defense, the only good defender we have is Taylor and he has more bad games than good, Ramage, Gooch, Babayaro, Carr and Moore are possibly the worst group of defenders in the league, our problems have been made worse by Bramble thinking he's Pirlo or something capable of pinging 70 yard balls about the place, only to give it away and put us straight back under pressure, the worst thing is he's been doing it for four fucking years! Our only bright spark has been Solano and he isn't even a defender, his lack of pace will soon be exposed if he's at right back next season.

 

As Gemmill said this club is in a shocking state, no coaching or tactics have gone into this team which is why we're getting shown up against the likes of Reading, Birmingham, Portsmouth etc and buying a striker, midfielder or defender would only paper over the cracks for so long.

 

Btw it's typical NE5 to ignore all this mess was brought on by Shepherd appointing two of the worst managers the Premiership has ever seen, both managers he backed in the beginning, and try and use the whole shambles as a point scoring exercise to try and make out he was right again.

 

Now if you don't mind I'm off to watch Arsenal vs Chelsea, two decent teams worth watching.

 

typical of Baggio and his ilk to think that the current board have ruined all the decades of trophies and success we had before they took control. Those were the days when we always appointed trophy winning managers, kept all our best players, bought all the top players at the right price at the right time and never made a bad signing, ever.

 

 

What exactly is the point you're making here? I can't see it.

 

Can you explain how your reply to Baggio's post challenges anything in his post (which I thought was a lucidly descriptive and incisively critical post, by the way)?

 

I'm surprised you ask this. Because you aren't an idiot like some people on here, and the majority of people who post on toonspastic.

 

The simple fact is that the post by Baggio is a typical comment he makes, as he constantly appears to lack a grasp of reality, in that he thinks that every other club except NUFC have DOF's, appoint perfect managers, buy the right players for the right fees at the right time, and win loads of trophies as a result.

 

So take the comment as you find it, which basically is a well deserved piss take.

 

At the end of the day, only 4 clubs have qualified for europe more than us over the past decade, which in a nutshell makes his apparent view that Newcastle United cannot do anything right, and all the other top clubs do things better than we do, all the time, to be an absolute and complete load of bollocks.

 

Unless of course you can produce some league positions, and facts to show this to be incorrect.

 

The comment "2 of the worst managers the premiership has seen" is typical of the bollocks he has posted, which i replied to. For starters, count how many clubs have finished below us in the last few years. And consider the fact, that some of his chums on toonspastic backed one of these "worst managers the premiership has seen" for the changes he made at the club until the day he left, and STILL  insist he was right to make such changes.

 

I think you ought to really be challenging such inconsistent and daft views mate, rather than picking up on an actual factual statement by me

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dont you agree that the last 2 managers shouldnt have been given the job?

Dont you agree that our club has gone massively backwards after the sacking of SBR?

Dont you agree that it was Shepherd's fault that he hired Souness at the time and backed him with alot of money?

I think Baggio is blaming Shepherd for the time after the sacking of SBR not before that.

Because after that started the regression of Newcastle United Football Club

[junkhead]

Isn't it obvious we need defenders and midfielders every bit as much as we need strikers?!

 

We haven't score in f****** ages, mainly because we've only had one fit striker capable of scoring goals all season, with Owen and Ameobi still short of match fitness the situation still hasn't got any better, next season we need another striker to boost the ranks in case injury hits us again.

 

Our midfield is absolutely shocking, are we the only team in the Premiership that play 2 holding men?! wouldn't surprise me if we were, on top of that Dyer is offering f*** all, N'Zogbia is average and massively overrated, Duff was a waste of money and Emre is always injured, Milner is the only bright spark from an attacking point of view from midfield and we've treated the lad like s***.

 

Then we get on to our defense, the only good defender we have is Taylor and he has more bad games than good, Ramage, Gooch, Babayaro, Carr and Moore are possibly the worst group of defenders in the league, our problems have been made worse by Bramble thinking he's Pirlo or something capable of pinging 70 yard balls about the place, only to give it away and put us straight back under pressure, the worst thing is he's been doing it for four f****** years! Our only bright spark has been Solano and he isn't even a defender, his lack of pace will soon be exposed if he's at right back next season.

 

As Gemmill said this club is in a shocking state, no coaching or tactics have gone into this team which is why we're getting shown up against the likes of Reading, Birmingham, Portsmouth etc and buying a striker, midfielder or defender would only paper over the cracks for so long.

 

Btw it's typical NE5 to ignore all this mess was brought on by Shepherd appointing two of the worst managers the Premiership has ever seen, both managers he backed in the beginning, and try and use the whole shambles as a point scoring exercise to try and make out he was right again.

 

Now if you don't mind I'm off to watch Arsenal vs Chelsea, two decent teams worth watching.

 

typical of Baggio and his ilk to think that the current board have ruined all the decades of trophies and success we had before they took control. Those were the days when we always appointed trophy winning managers, kept all our best players, bought all the top players at the right price at the right time and never made a bad signing, ever.

 

 

What exactly is the point you're making here? I can't see it.

 

Can you explain how your reply to Baggio's post challenges anything in his post (which I thought was a lucidly descriptive and incisively critical post, by the way)?

 

I'm surprised you ask this. Because you aren't an idiot like some people on here, and the majority of people who post on toonspastic.

 

The simple fact is that the post by Baggio is a typical comment he makes, as he constantly appears to lack a grasp of reality, in that he thinks that every other club except NUFC have DOF's, appoint perfect managers, buy the right players for the right fees at the right time, and win loads of trophies as a result.

 

So take the comment as you find it, which basically is a well deserved piss take.

 

At the end of the day, only 4 clubs have qualified for europe more than us over the past decade, which in a nutshell makes his apparent view that Newcastle United cannot do anything right, and all the other top clubs do things better than we do, all the time, to be an absolute and complete load of bollocks.

 

Unless of course you can produce some league positions, and facts to show this to be incorrect.

 

The comment "2 of the worst managers the premiership has seen" is typical of the bollocks he has posted, which i replied to. For starters, count how many clubs have finished below us in the last few years. And consider the fact, that some of his chums on toonspastic backed one of these "worst managers the premiership has seen" for the changes he made at the club until the day he left, and STILL  insist he was right to make such changes.

 

I think you ought to really be challenging such inconsistent and daft views mate, rather than picking up on an actual factual statement by me

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dont you agree that the last 2 managers shouldnt have been given the job?

Dont you agree that our club has gone massively backwards after the sacking of SBR?

Dont you agree that it was Shepherd's fault that he hired Souness at the time and backed him with alot of money?

I think Baggio is blaming Shepherd for the time after the sacking of SBR not before that.

Because after that started the regression of Newcastle United Football Club

how would you know this stuff man? do you watch the games from the front row??

you can't make such conclusions here unless you do

[NE5]

Isn't it obvious we need defenders and midfielders every bit as much as we need strikers?!

 

We haven't score in fucking ages, mainly because we've only had one fit striker capable of scoring goals all season, with Owen and Ameobi still short of match fitness the situation still hasn't got any better, next season we need another striker to boost the ranks in case injury hits us again.

 

Our midfield is absolutely shocking, are we the only team in the Premiership that play 2 holding men?! wouldn't surprise me if we were, on top of that Dyer is offering fuck all, N'Zogbia is average and massively overrated, Duff was a waste of money and Emre is always injured, Milner is the only bright spark from an attacking point of view from midfield and we've treated the lad like shit.

 

Then we get on to our defense, the only good defender we have is Taylor and he has more bad games than good, Ramage, Gooch, Babayaro, Carr and Moore are possibly the worst group of defenders in the league, our problems have been made worse by Bramble thinking he's Pirlo or something capable of pinging 70 yard balls about the place, only to give it away and put us straight back under pressure, the worst thing is he's been doing it for four fucking years! Our only bright spark has been Solano and he isn't even a defender, his lack of pace will soon be exposed if he's at right back next season.

 

As Gemmill said this club is in a shocking state, no coaching or tactics have gone into this team which is why we're getting shown up against the likes of Reading, Birmingham, Portsmouth etc and buying a striker, midfielder or defender would only paper over the cracks for so long.

 

Btw it's typical NE5 to ignore all this mess was brought on by Shepherd appointing two of the worst managers the Premiership has ever seen, both managers he backed in the beginning, and try and use the whole shambles as a point scoring exercise to try and make out he was right again.

 

Now if you don't mind I'm off to watch Arsenal vs Chelsea, two decent teams worth watching.

 

typical of Baggio and his ilk to think that the current board have ruined all the decades of trophies and success we had before they took control. Those were the days when we always appointed trophy winning managers, kept all our best players, bought all the top players at the right price at the right time and never made a bad signing, ever.

 

 

What exactly is the point you're making here? I can't see it.

 

Can you explain how your reply to Baggio's post challenges anything in his post (which I thought was a lucidly descriptive and incisively critical post, by the way)?

 

I'm surprised you ask this. Because you aren't an idiot like some people on here, and the majority of people who post on toonspastic.

 

The simple fact is that the post by Baggio is a typical comment he makes, as he constantly appears to lack a grasp of reality, in that he thinks that every other club except NUFC have DOF's, appoint perfect managers, buy the right players for the right fees at the right time, and win loads of trophies as a result.

 

So take the comment as you find it, which basically is a well deserved piss take.

 

At the end of the day, only 4 clubs have qualified for europe more than us over the past decade, which in a nutshell makes his apparent view that Newcastle United cannot do anything right, and all the other top clubs do things better than we do, all the time, to be an absolute and complete load of bollocks.

 

Unless of course you can produce some league positions, and facts to show this to be incorrect.

 

The comment "2 of the worst managers the premiership has seen" is typical of the bollocks he has posted, which i replied to. For starters, count how many clubs have finished below us in the last few years. And consider the fact, that some of his chums on toonspastic backed one of these "worst managers the premiership has seen" for the changes he made at the club until the day he left, and STILL  insist he was right to make such changes.

 

I think you ought to really be challenging such inconsistent and daft views mate, rather than picking up on an actual factual statement by me

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dont you agree that the last 2 managers shouldnt have been given the job?

Dont you agree that our club has gone massively backwards after the sacking of SBR?

Dont you agree that it was Shepherd's fault that he hired Souness at the time and backed him with alot of money?

I think Baggio is blaming Shepherd for the time after the sacking of SBR not before that.

Because after that started the regression of Newcastle United Football Club

 

thats quite a lot of questions from someone who has yet to reply as to which angle he views the action that he bases his view of the team on ?

 

Despite being asked by 3 different posters.