Guest optimistic nit Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 none of which have cemented themselves in the first team or showed to be anything special. some of them could be prem standard, but we have seen nothing so far to judge that this is the case. i rate a youth team on how many good players it produces, which has been either 0 or 1 in recent years depending on how you rate taylor. if those three and godsmark and lua lua can make it then my opinion will change, but until this happens it wont. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 we have krul, miler and taylor here. our academy is not great, although we do have a few prospects. we have only one academy player in the starting XI, and he is inconsistent at best. I think it's fair to say we have one of the best academies in the country. We came 4th in the FA Youth Cup behind Liverpool, Man Utd and Arsenal, the three biggest clubs in the country. Don't forget the likes of Carroll, Huntington and Edgar. Kazenga must have something about him making the bench at such a young age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 we have krul, miler and taylor here. our academy is not great, although we do have a few prospects. we have only one academy player in the starting XI, and he is inconsistent at best. I think it's fair to say we have one of the best academies in the country. We came 4th in the FA Youth Cup behind Liverpool, Man Utd and Arsenal, the three biggest clubs in the country. Don't forget the likes of Carroll, Huntington and Edgar. Kazenga must have something about him making the bench at such a young age. Has just been handed a professional contract apparently blueyes.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Mark Hughes really is a prick. What an absolutely selfish human being. This is a huge tournament and it would have been a great stage to see Bentley on and could only have done him good in his bid to show how valuable he could be to the first team. England had an outstanding team and it would have been really exciting to see them win as I though they were the favourites. This stunt just starts things off on a bad note and they've essentially lost their best player. I really dislike Hughes and I am so happy he never came close to getting the Newcastle job. Can you imgaine if he was in charge and he pulled Milner and Taylor out! Bentley will regret not going and I think it will affect his chances for the first team. If Ashley Young or Milner come back as the player of the tournament and England win, everyone will be pushing for them to get in the first team. Hope this backfires big time. Hughes is mental. Agree with that, it's bollocks. Totally agree with Pearce on the matter too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Spectrum Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Mark Hughes really is a prick. What an absolutely selfish human being. This is a huge tournament and it would have been a great stage to see Bentley on and could only have done him good in his bid to show how valuable he could be to the first team. England had an outstanding team and it would have been really exciting to see them win as I though they were the favourites. This stunt just starts things off on a bad note and they've essentially lost their best player. I really dislike Hughes and I am so happy he never came close to getting the Newcastle job. Can you imgaine if he was in charge and he pulled Milner and Taylor out! Bentley will regret not going and I think it will affect his chances for the first team. If Ashley Young or Milner come back as the player of the tournament and England win, everyone will be pushing for them to get in the first team. Hope this backfires big time. Hughes is mental. Agree with that, it's bollocks. Totally agree with Pearce on the matter too. I find it hard to agree with Pearce. I'm a bitter, bitter man, and I can't stand the cretinous oaf. He's right on this matter tho. But hey, stopped clock is right twice a day He was saying Hughes tried to pull Bentley out on wednesday. Seems like he is the one behind this. Not on at all. I'd insult him, but he's a former Manchester United player. I'm not sure I need to bother. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Luque Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 we have krul, miler and taylor here. our academy is not great, although we do have a few prospects. we have only one academy player in the starting XI, and he is inconsistent at best. I think it's fair to say we have one of the best academies in the country. We came 4th in the FA Youth Cup behind Liverpool, Man Utd and Arsenal, the three biggest clubs in the country. Don't forget the likes of Carroll, Huntington and Edgar. Kazenga must have something about him making the bench at such a young age. Has just been handed a professional contract apparently blueyes.gif Troisi looks quite good too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kmdnufc Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Come on everyone, join in, there's only three of us. Or, someone start a thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest optimistic nit Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 you still haven't posted your team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted June 8, 2007 Share Posted June 8, 2007 Mark Hughes really is a prick. What an absolutely selfish human being. This is a huge tournament and it would have been a great stage to see Bentley on and could only have done him good in his bid to show how valuable he could be to the first team. England had an outstanding team and it would have been really exciting to see them win as I though they were the favourites. This stunt just starts things off on a bad note and they've essentially lost their best player. I really dislike Hughes and I am so happy he never came close to getting the Newcastle job. Can you imgaine if he was in charge and he pulled Milner and Taylor out! Bentley will regret not going and I think it will affect his chances for the first team. If Ashley Young or Milner come back as the player of the tournament and England win, everyone will be pushing for them to get in the first team. Hope this backfires big time. Hughes is mental. Agree with that, it's bollocks. Totally agree with Pearce on the matter too. I find it hard to agree with Pearce. I'm a bitter, bitter man, and I can't stand the cretinous oaf. He's right on this matter tho. But hey, stopped clock is right twice a day He was saying Hughes tried to pull Bentley out on wednesday. Seems like he is the one behind this. Not on at all. I'd insult him, but he's a former Manchester United player. I'm not sure I need to bother. Bentley and/or his agent is a prick to allow this to happen. Out of spite I hope this hinders him ever playing for the full england team. How the fuck can you pull out of a major tournament for your country ?? Tired FFS. Bet his parent are really proud of him tonight Be class if we won it anyway but doubly so for Bentley to hjave to watch the celebrations on the telly.. COME ON U21's !!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skryp2nit3 Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Surely England must have the most number of players being first teamers at their respective clubs? Still wouldnt win the competition mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Italy & Portugal will be favourites, closely followed by ourselves. Israel are supposed to be highly fancied as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stozo Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Will Krul be starting for the Dutch on Sunday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Will Krul be starting for the Dutch on Sunday? No. It will be Boy Waterman the AZ Alkmarr keeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newcastle Fan Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Will Krul be starting for the Dutch on Sunday? No. It will be Boy Waterman the AZ Alkmarr keeper. Fantastic name But he's 23. why is he playing in the U-21 champs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 I guess because he was 21 when qualification started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roland Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Will be Waterman last tournament. Btw, all NL players are first team players at their club, except for Maduro and Krul/Vermeer. But the NL team is not as good as last year. off topic: there is a chance that krul will be loaned out to Roda JC, number 6 of last season in the NL league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delima Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 I think it's fair to say we have one of the best academies in the country. We came 4th in the FA Youth Cup behind Liverpool, Man Utd and Arsenal, the three biggest clubs in the country. Don't forget the likes of Carroll, Huntington and Edgar. I think it is unfair to draw this conclusion based on this info. Many Premierhsip academies have produced some really good players. Everton have Richard Dunne, Leon Osman, Tony Hibbert, Francis Jeffer, Michael Ball, Wayne Rooney. Man City have Micah Richards, Ishmael Miller, Michael Johnson, Nedum Onuoha, Stephen Ireland. West Ham have Rio Ferdinand, Frank Lampard, Joe Cole, Michael Carrick, Stephen Bywater. Leeds have Alan Smith, Jonathan Woodgate, Harry Kewell, Paul Rosinson, Aaron Lennon. Coventry City have Calum Davenport, Chris Kirkland, Gary McSheffrey. Aston Villa got Wayne Hendersson, Peter Whittingham, Liam Ridgewell, Steven Davies, Luke Moore, Gabriel Agbonlahor, Gary Cahill, Craig Gardner. Middlesbrough got Andrew Taylor, Anderw Davies, Chris Brunt, James Morrison, Josh Walker, Adam Johnson. Southampton got Theo Walcott and Gareth Bale. Newcastle United got Steven Taylor. We still have a long way to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Magpiecn Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 I think it's fair to say we have one of the best academies in the country. We came 4th in the FA Youth Cup behind Liverpool, Man Utd and Arsenal, the three biggest clubs in the country. Don't forget the likes of Carroll, Huntington and Edgar. I think it is unfair to draw this conclusion based on this info. Many Premierhsip academies have produced some really good players. Everton have Richard Dunne, Leon Osman, Tony Hibbert, Francis Jeffer, Michael Ball, Wayne Rooney. Man City have Micah Richards, Ishmael Miller, Michael Johnson, Nedum Onuoha, Stephen Ireland. West Ham have Rio Ferdinand, Frank Lampard, Joe Cole, Michael Carrick, Stephen Bywater. Leeds have Alan Smith, Jonathan Woodgate, Harry Kewell, Paul Rosinson, Aaron Lennon. Coventry City have Calum Davenport, Chris Kirkland, Gary McSheffrey. Aston Villa got Wayne Hendersson, Peter Whittingham, Liam Ridgewell, Steven Davies, Luke Moore, Gabriel Agbonlahor, Gary Cahill, Craig Gardner. Middlesbrough got Andrew Taylor, Anderw Davies, Chris Brunt, James Morrison, Josh Walker, Adam Johnson. Southampton got Theo Walcott and Gareth Bale. Newcastle United got Steven Taylor. We still have a long way to go. Edgar's ok too,just wasnt given enough time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes1986 Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 I remember earlier this season when Taylor was having a bad time, a few people on here were saying Ramage is better than Taylor after Ramage had a rare good game in the UEFA Cup You couldn't make it up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 There was a short spell last season where Ramage and Taylor played together, and Ramage was alright. But he's still shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 9, 2007 Share Posted June 9, 2007 Mark Hughes really is a prick. What an absolutely selfish human being. This is a huge tournament and it would have been a great stage to see Bentley on and could only have done him good in his bid to show how valuable he could be to the first team. England had an outstanding team and it would have been really exciting to see them win as I though they were the favourites. This stunt just starts things off on a bad note and they've essentially lost their best player. I really dislike Hughes and I am so happy he never came close to getting the Newcastle job. Can you imgaine if he was in charge and he pulled Milner and Taylor out! Bentley will regret not going and I think it will affect his chances for the first team. If Ashley Young or Milner come back as the player of the tournament and England win, everyone will be pushing for them to get in the first team. Hope this backfires big time. Hughes is mental. You wouldn't want him to be our manager because he would put the club ahead of the national side? What's wrong with him wanting Bentley to rest now and have a proper pre-season? He's already established himself as a good Premiership player unlike alot of the other lads (including Taylor), this tournament is less important for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Slobodan Rajkovic (Serbia) The strapping centre-back has an agreement to join Chelsea from OFK Belgrade, allegedly for a huge fee of about £3.8m. Will need more full international caps before obtaining a work permit. Ryan Babel (Holland) The host country will have great expectations of Ajax's latest Dutch-Surinamese star. A member of the senior squad for two years, he can play through the middle or towards the left. Giuseppe Rossi (Italy) After scoring 30 goals in as many games for Manchester United reserves, the powerful little forward had a productive loan spell at Parma under Claudio Ranieri that should stand him in good stead for this event. Giampaolo Pazzini (Italy) Unheralded Fiorentina striker is in the record books for scoring the first goal (after 29 seconds) and the first hat-trick at the new Wembley in the U-21 friendly against England. That Rossi chaps seems canny. http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/internationals/article2640374.ece Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Rossi could have done well here but Roeder didn't have a clue how to use him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Slobodan Rajkovic (Serbia) The strapping centre-back has an agreement to join Chelsea from OFK Belgrade, allegedly for a huge fee of about £3.8m. Will need more full international caps before obtaining a work permit. Ryan Babel (Holland) The host country will have great expectations of Ajax's latest Dutch-Surinamese star. A member of the senior squad for two years, he can play through the middle or towards the left. Giuseppe Rossi (Italy) After scoring 30 goals in as many games for Manchester United reserves, the powerful little forward had a productive loan spell at Parma under Claudio Ranieri that should stand him in good stead for this event. Giampaolo Pazzini (Italy) Unheralded Fiorentina striker is in the record books for scoring the first goal (after 29 seconds) and the first hat-trick at the new Wembley in the U-21 friendly against England. That Rossi chaps seems canny. http://sport.independent.co.uk/football/internationals/article2640374.ece That Palladino kid is also outstanding, and Aquialani in the midfield is pretty special. Italy should win IMO blueyes.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kmdnufc Posted June 10, 2007 Share Posted June 10, 2007 Ramage is worse than Bramble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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