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Now compare their premier league numbers when Murphy was 23 years old. If we're after Elanga, it's because we feel his ceiling is lot higher than we currently have.

No saves? Worrying.

I think Mitchell's days were numbered from the moment he delivered his first speech

Bet he gets some decent boot deals

I liked him at first. He had reached the top level by an unconventional route, and seemed to bring something different. However, I don't think he adjusted to the different level of competition that he was facing - perhaps because he thought he was already the finished article and didn't need to. This season, he lost composure under pressure and started arguing with supporters, the media and officialdom. What's more, there have been questions as to whether his training methods were contributing to his team's injury problems. I didn't get the impression that he was working closely with his backroom staff. Eddie clearly works in a team framework and seeks other opinions, but that seemed absent with Ange. Another curious thing was that he didn't seem to communicate with his players on the pitch. I've often wondered whether managers shouting and gesticulating on the touchline was really effective, but Ange seemed to go in the opposite direction, as though making a particular point of not doing that. At times, Spurs looked like they needed some tactical adjustments, but they didn't come.

Sounds like one from the PR side

Be nice to hear the return of sunlunds at butlins we're going to brugge

Or us tearing up in Jan

its ok om laptop, yours still has Man U in

Joel Bland speaking and littlemans reply? Would send me into a death spiral.

Consider it payment for the Champions League place. Cheers.

Real Madrid will be doing the same with Carreras. Just need someone to buy Greenwood now.

I get what you're saying, and I would rather we were signing someone who was a bit better on the technical side. Mbeumo would have been great, but maybe we just have to face the fact that the players who are most in demand at any given time won't be available to us yet. If Elanga does sign, then I think either Gordon or Barnes will leave, and I reckon it will be Gordon. I agree that we have difficulty in breaking down teams who come to defend because our players generally aren't technical enough when it comes to passing and controlling the ball through tight spaces. Maybe Grealish on loan, playing as a number 10 would help.

This. I think the player is fine, if that’s who we’ve settled on. It’s the time it’s going to take to do this deal. We’ve done business with Forest quite a bit so I think there’ll be a good relationship, I just can’t see them being willing sellers

I genuinely can't believe anyone could watch Murphy look so nervous and tentative on the ball in general play, and how easily he gets pushed off the ball when he tries to go by players, and compare him to Elanga. Really very very strange comparing the two.

Don’t think my liver could cope with a Germany and a Belgium trip. 😂

Fair point.

We've played most of the big boys now to be fair. Obviously Bayern and Real the exceptions. After that Napoli and Ajax maybe.

It's the exact same points being mentioned again too. All pace. Just a transition player. His fbref passing is poor. Too expensive. Not good enough for where we need to get to etc. If he joins we'll soon see.

Well, so Murphy is better based on data but, slower. My main concern is that we pay upwards of 50M and bench him in favour of Murphy. He spent a chunk of time on Forest’s bench last season. He doesn’t appear very disciplined or that good technically. 🤷‍♂️

Still think this one has a long way to run, with our limited budget and other needs, I can’t see us paying 50 million.

Another thing, we’re in fairly desperate need of someone who can take a free kick and Elanga put in some great ones last season.