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You obviously do care though I don't but you do have a problem I would say. Maybe I just find you a little patronising, but I don't exactly lose sleep over it Anyway, both Senderos and Taylor are average. it isn't easy to avoid patronising clueless people sometimes I've never said you're clueless have I?

Frustrating isn't he. How come he manages freekicks but not corners?

I hadn't realised he turned them down because they were being a bit slow, as you'll see from the order of the posts. Clearly you know the full intimate details of the deals though, so I'll bow down to your superior knowledge. We won't sign him though, so it's a pointless debate. EDIT: Still not admitting that your Emre/Parker argument doesn't stand up then?

Great pitch isn't it. Looks fantastic from behind the goal. Don't think there's a straight line on the entire pitch.

You obviously do care though I don't but you do have a problem I would say. Maybe I just find you a little patronising, but I don't exactly lose sleep over it Anyway, both Senderos and Taylor are average.

You obviously do care though

Wow, you're difficult. I made the point that we have no idea why he turned Spurs down, but you claimed that because Parker and Emre turned them down, he'd come here. Why did you say that you "don't see why he'd come here"? Because he rejected Spurs? Erm, because I don't see why he'd come here, because he's already turned one club in this country down, and clubs in the capital usually get the player. You still don't see the difference in the Parker and Emre deals do you? We were in direct competition AT THE TIME when trying to sign them. We offered better deals than Spurs did AT THE TIME. This situation is completely different. He won't be sat there thinking "hmm, I don't fancy Spurs, might just wait a while and see if Newcastle come in for me".

Owen on the edge of our box defending? Not exactly where we want him, even in his new deep role.

Sun's annoying. Awful ground by the way, but at least the away end has a roof now. Been soaked too many times there for my liking.

Wow, you're difficult. I made the point that we have no idea why he turned Spurs down, but you claimed that because Parker and Emre turned them down, he'd come here.

No idea how good this link is, but it claims he rejected Spurs because he wants a move to Athletico Madrid: http://www.transfermarketweb.com/?action=read&idsel=13911

mackems.gif How is that amusing exactly? Don't bite mate, he's really not worth it. bitter ? Why not prove I'm wrong then, or show you know more about the club than me ? Prove you wrong that Taylor is or isn't better than Senderos? Isn't that a matter of opinion? It's your pathetic use of that smiley which I'm referring to. Makes you look like a 12 year old. well, its a smiley, because I think your silly comments - as above "not really worth it" make you sound like a little girl You're bitter alright, f**k knows what at, but such comments do you no favours I feel that some new posters need warning about you So how exactly would you like me to prove your "opinion" wrong, as you seem to think it's a matter of fact? "Warning" oh dear. Who are you, The fairy godmother ? I meant prove you know more about the club than me, as you chose to butt in and respond to me when you are hardly on here and I never mentioned or even thought of you. Because you don't. Fucking hell man, is that what's important to you? Do you just want us all to say that you know more about the club than anyone else? Laughable I'm afraid. Yep, you know more about the club than I do, and you've been to far more games. Well done. Unfortunately for you, that does not automatically make your opinion right about our players, which you've proved by claiming that Taylor is a top class defender.

which tiago? juve one? that one is s***... ranieri want to get rid of him soon He turned Spurs down, so don't see why he'd come here. He's far from s*** though. Oh here we go. Didn't Emre and Parker turn down spurs for us? What's with the rolled eyes like? I assumed he turned Spurs down because he wanted to stay at Juve. Are you saying it was because he had the chance of signing for us in summer? what you are saying?...... he has no future at juve.... definitely that for sure No, I'm saying he does not want to come back to this country. He actually wants to go to Spain, and that's where he's going.

Errr.. Resale value of Michael Owen in 2012: 1M Resale value of talented player deemed worth 12M in 2008 after 4 more years of development in 2012: ? I´m off the opinion that there are players out there that would offer us more than Owen does at the moment and would make more sense economically as well. They represent slight gambles, and you don´t know whether they would come here unless you tried, but it´s not a given in my opinion that keeping an ageing and degressing player on over the top wages makes financial sense.. That's fair enough but I don't really care about resale values; if they're doing the business why would we want to sell them? It's like saying 'let's replace Beye now because in three years time we won't be able to sell him for much' - who cares? BTW £12m was a conservative estimate. Who would we get for that, Crouch? Dave, that is conservative to try and keep the discussion going, i think both you and i know that Owens replacement would cost 20mil+, so i am definately in the KEEP camp. Jesus, I'm all for a bit reasoning and you know, disagreements don't need to be settled and all, but 20m?? Are you serious? Just think of what Owen actually offers us and see if whether that's worth 20m; it blatantly doesn't. If the economics doesn't really matter then I think there are loads of strikers out there who can replace Owen on the field (i.e. footballing ability-wise). The problem being is he would need to be a proven Premiership striker, as even paying over the odds for one of the best strikers in Europe (as Chelsea did) doesn't always work. Who in the premiership could we sign who would be better than Owen in your opinion?

which tiago? juve one? that one is s***... ranieri want to get rid of him soon He turned Spurs down, so don't see why he'd come here. He's far from s*** though. Oh here we go. Didn't Emre and Parker turn down spurs for us? What's with the rolled eyes like? I assumed he turned Spurs down because he wanted to stay at Juve. Are you saying it was because he had the chance of signing for us in summer?

Derby really have been fantastic haven't they. Wonder if Allardyce will forget that we're the only team to lose to them next time he claims he was the right man for the job?

which tiago? juve one? that one is shit... ranieri want to get rid of him soon He turned Spurs down, so don't see why he'd come here. He's far from shit though. Turned them down over wages didn't he? Not sure. Has Martin Jol posted in the intimate secrets of the rejection yet?

which tiago? juve one? that one is shit... ranieri want to get rid of him soon He turned Spurs down, so don't see why he'd come here. He's far from shit though.

mackems.gif How is that amusing exactly? Don't bite mate, he's really not worth it. bitter ? Why not prove I'm wrong then, or show you know more about the club than me ? Prove you wrong that Taylor is or isn't better than Senderos? Isn't that a matter of opinion? It's your pathetic use of that smiley which I'm referring to. Makes you look like a 12 year old. well, its a smiley, because I think your silly comments - as above "not really worth it" make you sound like a little girl You're bitter alright, f**k knows what at, but such comments do you no favours I feel that some new posters need warning about you So how exactly would you like me to prove your "opinion" wrong, as you seem to think it's a matter of fact?

mackems.gif How is that amusing exactly? Don't bite mate, he's really not worth it. bitter ? Why not prove I'm wrong then, or show you know more about the club than me ? Prove you wrong that Taylor is or isn't better than Senderos? Isn't that a matter of opinion? It's your pathetic use of that smiley which I'm referring to. Makes you look like a 12 year old.

mackems.gif How is that amusing exactly? Don't bite mate, he's really not worth it.

He's not a team player. He's always running down blind alleys and giving the ball away in the process. Dyer was better at what N'Zogbia thinks he's best at. Agree with that completely.

You'll not have to wait that long if we end the season where we are now because it will be a better position in the league than the season before. I just wonder how that one would be put down as a negative? What position did we finish in Fred's first season as sole chairman?

Good shout, but that would mean taking Gerrard off the list, which is against the law.

Wouldnt want to sign him tbh. Why not?