David Icke - Son of God

Well it's clearly not f***ing working Not on here so much, but every time I go to SJP I'm staggered by how many people seem to get their information from the tabloid media alone and believe what they read verbatim. This place exists in a world of its own. The anti-Pardew stuff proves that. Was it 82% of supporters in the Ronny poll who were either very happy or happy with him? http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/big-toon-survey-alan-pardew-6508505 I'm aware of the poll Dave. My point was more the fact it's a open poll which anyone can vote in, even Sunderland fans. Congratulations, in a thread where we've got supporters claiming we've leaked details of us rejecting a bid because we really want £8-10m less for a player than he has been publicly valued suggestion that there is a Mackem-led conspiracy to paint us as satisfied with our manager via the rigging of internet polls is by far and away the most fucking mental thing posted so far.

There's reasons to be fed up but we don't really have a track record of flogging our stars for anything other than astronomical sums. Demba Ba, Shay Given, Jose Enrique, Habib Beye, Fraser Forster, N'Zog, Perch - none of them went for astronomical sums. In fact, take Carroll out of the equation and they've probably performed about average - some players leaving for more than they were worth and some less. Given I can give you, that was a terrible deal, but the others we had our hands tied to some degree. Ba had his clause, Enrique was running his contract down, Beye was shot and we'd just been relegated, N'Zogbia had been acting like a massive fucking prick for quite some time and Perch, as much as I love the bloke, I'd hesitate to call him a 'star'. I'm still fucking staggered Forster's turned into a decent goalkeeper as whenever I saw him he looked absolutely awful

Well it's clearly not f***ing working Not on here so much, but every time I go to SJP I'm staggered by how many people seem to get their information from the tabloid media alone and believe what they read verbatim. This place exists in a world of its own. The anti-Pardew stuff proves that. Was it 82% of supporters in the Ronny poll who were either very happy or happy with him?

There's reasons to be fed up but we don't really have a track record of flogging our stars for anything other than astronomical sums.

Well it's clearly not fucking working Not on here so much, but every time I go to SJP I'm staggered by how many people seem to get their information from the tabloid media alone and believe what they read verbatim. This place exists in a world of its own. The anti-Pardew stuff proves that.

Pretty standard practise isn't it? Notify other interested parties that one club has made roads to actually sign the player; try to start a bidding war. If the bid was at all close to what the club know to value him at then I could see the logic. It's no where near what the club want though. I can't imagine it's got Arsenal, Man United etc. scrambling around looking for their cheque books worried that they're going to be beaten to his signature. It's £4m more than they were gonna get in the summer. Nobody knows what their valuation is. What this information will do imho will have Arsenal/Man Utd etc wondering if they 'just' bid £16m, would it be enough. Then they'll be told someone else has already bid more.............they'll still think £18m is a bargain because all they've heard, read and been told all month is that he's worth £25m. "What this information will do imho will have Arsenal/Man Utd etc wondering if they 'just' bid £16m, would it be enough." I doubt it because... "all they've heard, read and been told all month is that he's worth £25m." I don't know what we would stand to gain from leaking the info. I can see what PSG get and why Cabaye and his agent would make it public but I don't think saying "hey, we've received a derisory offer for an unsettle player" does anything for NUFC. YOU think it's derisory. Maybe they don't. What's to say that they wouldn't take £15m and they are therefore making this 'bid' public in order to achieve that? Why, if you'd take £15m for a player, would you reject a bid of £14m completely out of hand? I'm not a businessman but that makes no sense to me. It doesn't really send the right signals. This is all speculative bullshit with absolutely no grounding in reality. All we know is a club made a bid for a player that they've been interested in for quite some time and we rejected it because it didn't come anywhere close to matching the public valuation we've placed on his head. It doesn't seem particularly difficult to understand nor does it seem particularly far-fetched.

Well it's clearly not fucking working

Pretty standard practise isn't it? Notify other interested parties that one club has made roads to actually sign the player; try to start a bidding war. If the bid was at all close to what the club know to value him at then I could see the logic. It's no where near what the club want though. I can't imagine it's got Arsenal, Man United etc. scrambling around looking for their cheque books worried that they're going to be beaten to his signature. It's £4m more than they were gonna get in the summer. Nobody knows what their valuation is. What this information will do imho will have Arsenal/Man Utd etc wondering if they 'just' bid £16m, would it be enough. Then they'll be told someone else has already bid more.............they'll still think £18m is a bargain because all they've heard, read and been told all month is that he's worth £25m. "What this information will do imho will have Arsenal/Man Utd etc wondering if they 'just' bid £16m, would it be enough." I doubt it because... "all they've heard, read and been told all month is that he's worth £25m." I don't know what we would stand to gain from leaking the info. I can see what PSG get and why Cabaye and his agent would make it public but I don't think saying "hey, we've received a derisory offer for an unsettle player" does anything for NUFC.

Pretty standard practise isn't it? Notify other interested parties that one club has made roads to actually sign the player; try to start a bidding war. If the bid was at all close to what the club know to value him at then I could see the logic. It's no where near what the club want though. I can't imagine it's got Arsenal, Man United etc. scrambling around looking for their cheque books worried that they're going to be beaten to his signature.

Why does there always have to be a conspiracy? What do we achieve by leaking the info that we flatly rejected a bid of £14 million? Surely that would only put clubs off who would then see our valuation as unrealistic.

Calm the fuck down Paully's hints make it pretty bloody obvious who it is.

Jesus Christ Seriously, how far do you have to be up Alan Pardews arse to post this sentence with a straight face? It's a reasonable question. I think we'd struggle to find a better manager who would work under the restrictions placed on Pardew and meet Ashley's liking. "Restrictions". There'd be tons of managers who'd give their right bollock to work with that squad and manage the players we've signed the last 3-4 years. "and meets Ashley's liking". Quite crucial that bit. The idea that we sack Pardew and instantly upgrade is plain fucking wrong, particularly if what I've been told about our first choice replacement should Pardew leave is true

Jesus Christ Seriously, how far do you have to be up Alan Pardews arse to post this sentence with a straight face? It's a reasonable question. I think we'd struggle to find a better manager who would work under the restrictions placed on Pardew and meet Ashley's liking.

In short, you'd replace him with somebody better? That's a no brainer.

No chance, he's far too devious to not know what he and Mike are achieving together. Just because the bloke wears glasses occasionally, you're not going to fool me into thinking he's clever enough to be knowingly devious like that. The guy's is a good manager in the greater scheme of things, but strikes me as a decent unsubtle reactionary, and not someone with the nous of a Mourinho or a Ferguson to be playing mind games (even on the supporters).

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Sack them all Andy.

Does Cabaye have a tattoo on his thigh too? Definitely a ready made replacement.

Being schooled by another club in the art of being a complete fucking basket case #AshleyOut

it is possible he is trying to annoy us into saying fuck this shit I think his Dad's threatened to ground him.

Montepellier making us look professional. Us for fucks sake "You know that thing I said three hours ago? It's not true. Did it for teh lolz."

Imagine Nicollin and Kinnear in the same room. Fucking hell.

Yeah, people seem to be forgetting that he actually wants to leave. We've got a player who went on strike the first few weeks of the season because we wouldn't accept a paltry offer from Arsenal. I don't think you can put this down to lack of ambition.

Probably Giggs @antnparis Accord PSG-Newcastle pour Yohan #Cabaye (26 millions d'euros) selon Canal+. Le transfert sera acté si Cabella rejoint les Magpies.

He's my fucking muse.