Dinho lad

1. Dortmund has had trouble all season, while they seemed to be turning it around their team isn't much better than Juventus and they still got away with a chance from Turin. Good win for Juve no doubt, not debating that. For the 2nd leg they lost a bit in form in the league. They were playing okish football but were unable to produce anything of note going forward. Obviously they had the same problem against Juve, but it was also a great goal from Tevez and then defensive errors which made the score 3-0. 2. Obviously you are right you don't win on papers, but at the same time expectations are different when you're team is stronger. 3. It's obviously here where we differ in ideas, if I only looked at results and not performances I would probably think Allegri is some kind of genius, unfortunately his team is less convincing than Conte despite the players they have. Obviously I haven't followed Juventus intensely this season but they haven't impressed when I have. He has relied heavily on Tevez offensively, just like he did with Zlatan at Milan. Let's not forget that my main point is that this Juventus side is worse than the one under Conte. 4. What Mole posted above. As for the league being weaker, it's not true, the league is weaker now. They went unbeaten in a season under Allegri's Milan side which included Zlatan and Thiago Silva as their star player. Clearly the two best players in the Serie A at the time. I respect your opinion, I don't agree with it. I think Allegri has done what is expected from his squad. I'm not the only one who has this ''simple'' opinion though. I'm basing my opinion of Allegri on the one league win and another pending one. Also a respectable semifinal, minimum, finish. You're basing it on the fact that Dortmund have been "shit" and on the fact that he has world class players at his disposal. Get away, I'm not going to waste any further time on you.

Just got back home..... I see we have lost again.

First of all - get your facts right about Dortmund. They won 3 in a row prior to the first leg and were unbeaten in the next four before the 2nd leg. And oh, they conceded no goals in those four games. Just to remind you, the result was 3-0 to Juventus, in Dortmund. It is true that Juventus are expected to be here, but I have never claimed that Allegri's is a "special" manager, he's just a good manager who can get better. Secondly - How many games are played on fucking paper? Fuck all, obviously. Monaco were meant to be easy on paper for Arsenal. That argument is shit and certainly doesn't wash. Thirdly - Vidal, Pogba and Tevez are world class? Yes, they are! But so is Ronaldo, Bale, Ramos, Messi, Suarez, etc. What's your fucking point? That managers in charge of good players shouldn't be rated highly? Or maybe they need to win the CL before they should be rated highly?! In that case, who is a good fucking manager? Apart from Mourinho with Porto, name one manger that has won a strong competition with a group of players that don't have a world class core? Fourthly - Conte's were more convincing in the league than Allegri's? Interesting that you mention "the league" here! What's Conte's record in the CL like? Not that I think he's a bad manager, but I think it's obvious why you only mentioned his record in the league. And anyway, Juve being more convincing in the league under Conte could be because the league was weaker, no? Not saying it was and not saying it wasn't. It's just an example to show that it is not as simple as that. Talking about simple, your whole opinion about this certainly was.

Invalid now.

Such a s*** manager, that Allegri guy. I still don't think he's anything special. They've had a relatively easy way to the semi's playing teams that on paper are weaker than them and also playing Dortmund which was out of form. Vidal, Pogba, Tevez are absolutely top class and that's not down to Allegri. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz...... Nothing to add I see, glad we agree then. Allegri is doing all the work.

Such a s*** manager, that Allegri guy. I still don't think he's anything special. They've had a relatively easy way to the semi's playing teams that on paper are weaker than them and also playing Dortmund which was out of form. Vidal, Pogba, Tevez are absolutely top class and that's not down to Allegri. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz......

Such a shit manager, that Allegri guy.

Another no. (But maybe when Mcmanaman was younger.)

cunts.

It's not an easy league to get out of. Particularly this season. I think SM would be able to get us Europa League football on regular basis, provided he is adequately backed.

http://media.giphy.com/media/1pW5BWTbmKmm4/giphy.gif I like this new defeatist attitude Mike. what movie or TV show is that from?

Fuck off ITV for showing this!

Fuck off ITV you cunts, I hope the roof collapses on their heads.

That's unusual of you, Ian.

No. Both look like dicks, yes. But... no.

Looks like middle-aged, as well.

"Good luck to him"?? Fuck off and die, lawrenson!

Jonas for manager.

Useless shitheads.

Love van Gaal!

Mourinho manager of the year?

All them are putting up a fight still, though. None of them are miles away. Hull are definitely down.

Yep, but for some reason the likes of Anita and Abeid get away with it on here.