Wullie

Presumably their ploy is to make him think we're just like Liverpool by looking as totally fucking embarrassing as those on RAWK. They're certainly going the right way about it.

Has someone pinched KI's account?

Can't wait until he's dead.

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Danny Mills on 5Live claiming Martinez' team is too much like Kevin Keegan's Newcastle.

Getting canny cringe all this like.

We don't like. Seen them relegated countless times, no big deal. Would have seen plenty more if we hadn't got ourselves in the habit of giving them points every time we play.

Walsall.

The idea of the modern SJP actually singing about anything en masse, whether it be Rafa, Pardew or Ashley is preposterous tbh. It's like when you read all week after the latest disaster, "it'll be poisonous on Saturday, the atmosphere will be toxic" then you get the match on and assume the sound's knackered on your laptop. The only thing that ever gets a noise going at home these days is a dodgy refereeing decision.

Did the Spirit of Shankly put Rafa off Liverpool? Think it's quite insulting to the bloke to think that fan unrest would put him off. He's not stupid.

I really dislike the trend of moving stadiums out of town. I understand the reasons behind it but it's quite sad.

Who are the big four?

Sleepwalking is too kind, that implies it's not effectively intentional. This has been deliberate mismanagement to save money in the hope that everything will be fine. I would say it's been more like drink-driving to relegation.

Here's me being told that it is always sacrilege to want NUFC to lose.

Touche.

He spent money and hired Rafa because he didn't want us to get relegated and lose a fortune. That's the only time he ever acts. I don't understand why this needs spelling out. "He's changed" ffs. Are you on the wind up?

Look, I have been to 4 games this year (previously had a season ticket for 16 years). The reasoning I gave myself at that time, other than the fact that I had a baby and my priorities changed somewhat, was that maybe just maybe if enough people stopped going something might change. But then the realisation set in... No one has yet given me a reasonable explanation of how not showing up is going to change anything? He wouldn't man. That's not how businessmen work. If and when he decides to sell, it will be when the value of the club is at it's highest he can make it. If you're talking about emptying the stadium every week, seeing us relegated further divisions, in the hope of eventually reclaiming our club and rising back up like some kind of metaphorical phoenix, is that REALLY worth the risk? Genuine question. He will never sell the club in the Premier League, the rewards for mediocrity are now too great. Worth the risk to me as I certainly won't be back while Ashley's there. Number one priority to me is to be able to go back, and feel proud to support them, instead of guilty. Whether that's in the Premier League or the Conference, I honestly don't care a jot.

If the stadium was empty every week, he would soon do one. There's no advertising opportunities to be had from an empty Championship ground, and that's all he's here for.

Everyone has exactly the same rights and reasons to complain if they want to. Just because you don't go to the games (and I have only been to a few this season myself - both through lack of interest, other more important things to do etc) it does not automatically give you more right to complain. Just because you feel like you're doing something to "make a stand". The whole argument is so fucking high and mighty man. It's embarrassing. I didn't want to pack in my season ticket and sacrifice ten years worth of loyalty points, I did it because it was the right thing to do, because funding Mike Ashley is damaging to Newcastle United. How the fuck is it "high and mighty" to believe that people who keep paying top dollar for a shit product (that they know is shit and which admits its ambition is to be shit) can't complain when they receive a shit product? But again thats you're opinion, people have differing opinions, for some people it might not be as easy, they've supported a team since birth, and they want to continue to do that, they want to go to the game and support the team. It's not simply a product to them, it's something people have a connection to, that they hold dear to there heart, so they go to the game with the hope so seeing something memorable, that they can tell there kids one day. Yeah, cheers. I was unsure of the concept of being a football supporter before now. Thats it instead of having a discussion, go ahead and make shitty little digs How am I supposed to respond to that? I know what it means to support a club funnily enough - that's why I don't give money to Mike Ashley to fund him running the fucker into the ground.

Everyone has exactly the same rights and reasons to complain if they want to. Just because you don't go to the games (and I have only been to a few this season myself - both through lack of interest, other more important things to do etc) it does not automatically give you more right to complain. Just because you feel like you're doing something to "make a stand". The whole argument is so fucking high and mighty man. It's embarrassing. I didn't want to pack in my season ticket and sacrifice ten years worth of loyalty points, I did it because it was the right thing to do, because funding Mike Ashley is damaging to Newcastle United. How the fuck is it "high and mighty" to believe that people who keep paying top dollar for a shit product (that they know is shit and which admits its ambition is to be shit) can't complain when they receive a shit product? But again thats you're opinion, people have differing opinions, for some people it might not be as easy, they've supported a team since birth, and they want to continue to do that, they want to go to the game and support the team. It's not simply a product to them, it's something people have a connection to, that they hold dear to there heart, so they go to the game with the hope so seeing something memorable, that they can tell there kids one day. Yeah, cheers. I was unsure of the concept of being a football supporter before now.

You're not "supporting something that's shit" though are you. You're supporting your club, your team, the team you grew up with, the ideal of going to a game and potentially seeing something amazing that you will be talking about all week, the potential of creating some lasting memories, the potential of meeting new people and creating friendships etc etc. Regardless of Mike Ashley / Lee Charnley there are still A LOT of things about this football club worth supporting. If you want to bail out and believe that that's the best route forward to affect change, then go for it. But don't criticise others for not sharing your view. Football is, after all, about a lot more than just how the team is doing. You're absolutely right, football is more than the team. So they're also funding the Wonga shirts, the vandalised stadium, the disability discrimination. There is nothing to be proud of about the club as it exists today.

Everyone has exactly the same rights and reasons to complain if they want to. Just because you don't go to the games (and I have only been to a few this season myself - both through lack of interest, other more important things to do etc) it does not automatically give you more right to complain. Just because you feel like you're doing something to "make a stand". The whole argument is so fucking high and mighty man. It's embarrassing. I didn't want to pack in my season ticket and sacrifice ten years worth of loyalty points, I did it because it was the right thing to do, because funding Mike Ashley is damaging to Newcastle United. How the fuck is it "high and mighty" to believe that people who keep paying top dollar for a shit product (that they know is shit and which admits its ambition is to be shit) can't complain when they receive a shit product?

Of course fans aren't "to blame" but anyone who continues to fund it has zero reason to complain. None. They know what their money is going towards and they give him it anyway. The fan base as a collective can accelerate his departure by not turning up en masse but they have made a choice to do the opposite and keep him here.

This summer is the real test imo.