BottledDog

Nobodys getting on a high horse, just a discussion. Can you see any long term benefits in employing this approach? ashley moves on? Or gives him more of a reason to stay. Some really great discussion in this thread lads, what a read. Of course he'll stay if he can continually turn investments of £0m to £5m into £8m to £10m profit he'll just produce a conveyor belt of players sold for profit. Trouble is that NUFC ssupporters will be paying £500+ every season to watch nothing more than a talent drain. We'll have no real opportunity to break the top 8 because it'll be those Clubs that are asset stripping our team. My concerns exactly. Call it pessimism, but in my opinion it's the reality we now face. If we turn players who cost nothing into £8m to £10m profit continually, the club will be making some unbelievably impressive buys, be employing a mightily impressive coaching staff, and providing a great enviroment on the pich to allow talent to shine, while being successful enough to attract the next bunch of recruits. Call me optimistic, but if that's the reality we now face, then I'm not concerned at all. I'd be delighted. /My opinions on this though are more in line with IanW's a few posts back for the record. The asset stripping arguement is utterly unsustainable which conflicts directly with the policy Ashey is apparently trying to lay down for the club. Carroll, Milner and Basong all realised an instant profit and where immediately sold. Tell me NUFC would not be a better Club with all three stil in B&W shirt. If it isn't the fact they were sold its the timing that is the killer as none have been replaced in the same window. Not too bothered about the other two but still massively smarting over Carroll as he is a bit of a one off and it's likely whoever comes in won't make up for that for me sadly. I'm not going to argue that the club will cash in if big offers come in, that's the reality financially at the moment. But we're still not making money from the likes of Milner and Bassong, just stemming losses, and long term we'll never be able to keep producing wunderkids if we keep selling them off an continually flirt with relegation. The club should have the nous to see that, and I'm willing to see how we do this summer in showing a willingness to keep hold of players and invest in the team if we stay up before getting edgy over a policy of buying players whoes values should increase enough to make a profit. It is a fundamentally welcome policy that all clubs surely aim for, especially if we get to a point like Tottenham where we can see that profit realised long term on the pitch rather that have to always sell to 'bigger' clubs.

When he does make it back, I can see myself bricking it everytime someone goes in on him from now on. It's not a feeling I'm looking forward to tbh.

He lives on the edge. The kind of risky outside the box thinking this club needs.

Nobodys getting on a high horse, just a discussion. Can you see any long term benefits in employing this approach? ashley moves on? Or gives him more of a reason to stay. Some really great discussion in this thread lads, what a read. Of course he'll stay if he can continually turn investments of £0m to £5m into £8m to £10m profit he'll just produce a conveyor belt of players sold for profit. Trouble is that NUFC ssupporters will be paying £500+ every season to watch nothing more than a talent drain. We'll have no real opportunity to break the top 8 because it'll be those Clubs that are asset stripping our team. My concerns exactly. Call it pessimism, but in my opinion it's the reality we now face. If we turn players who cost nothing into £8m to £10m profit continually, the club will be making some unbelievably impressive buys, be employing a mightily impressive coaching staff, and providing a great enviroment on the pich to allow talent to shine, while being successful enough to attract the next bunch of recruits. Call me optimistic, but if that's the reality we now face, then I'm not concerned at all. I'd be delighted. /My opinions on this though are more in line with IanW's a few posts back for the record. The asset stripping arguement is utterly unsustainable which conflicts directly with the policy Ashey is apparently trying to lay down for the club.

Not a twiter fella, any chance someone can test his reslove and see if he might come north again?

I wouldn't say it's particularly awesome that we're offering such a pitiful deal that he's unhappy with. At least Wallace's account puts that offer just as a starting point in the negotiations and an agreement was pretty much there, and could well be there in the summer bar some dancing. Good to get another view of the talk in.

Don't think popping out for a couple of hours and not drinking any alcohol counts as partying like a rock star. A Christian rock star maybe. if you believe thier statement of course, which i certainly don't. Ian W is a very credulous chap. I envy that characteristic. Also known as incredibly naive. TBF I do believe them, after being caught red handed they wouldn't come out and apologise only to lie to everyone. They didn't look drunk or tired or anything in the photo (though I was concentrating on the abs obviously). I'm not cynical by nature though, must admit. That's had me caught out buy Mike Ashley a number of times. Personnally don't see any reason to doubt them tbh. I don't think it's naive to think that it wouldn't be 5 minutes before someone who was at the place to pipe up that they were drinking if they were. It may well be that Ireland and co are not the sharpest of tools, but they would have to be flatlining (as would the whoever set up the official apology) to lie about something like that.

Not on my nelly. He's not going to sign a new contract ... Well lets hope not eh, best not to jinx it.

What about the road though? Would run under the stand presumably. Just cannot see them ever getting arond to extending it though. Massive cost for a few extra seats.

Not on my nelly.

Arf.

"To have someone here who hates me is just amazing. I know he hates me. If he was someone important to me, I would try to talk to him and see what the problem is. But he's not. So we don't talk" - If this is how Manuel Almunia felt about Jens Lehmann in 2008, he'll be delighted that the out-of-work goalkeeper, 82, is in talks to rejoin Arsenal -Fiver

Unfortunately? /Ah apologies, forgot. Any stability, and lets face it, relative success that Pardew remaining in charge for a good while to come would in all likelyhood mean, runs compleately contradictory to your anarchic nature. Amirite?

Fair play to you for that. But, for starters, I'm one who'd be utterly stunned if we didn't spend any money in the summer.

To many you's, we's, and 'every single fan' in that. Stick with the I's in the last para please.

4-5 signings - http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/5665/7/exclusive-pardew-targets-five-newcastle-summer-signings

Good 8min interview here - http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/5665/7/exclusive-pardew-targets-five-newcastle-summer-signings Bizzarre goodbye though. "Have a good work guys!"?

Blatant admission of tapping up by Warnock. Yup. "That's why I chased him for so long and talked to him so many times. Pestered him, in fact."

Revolutionary? I cant' imagine many have said that it was that, but it is certainly a more defined policy. Of course we have bought young players in the past, the difference now is that there is a greater reluctance to spend big on players over the age of 25. Good, sensible stuff imho.

Ah, fair enough. Yeah, that's what I thought, but if he can bulk up a bit on his steak and beans then we may have another tricky full back who can cross a ball, really like what I've seen of the lad so far.

Potential replacement? Useful backup?