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My friend (which i've mentioned on here several times like) should of made it, but was forced into giving it up for the sake of the family business. He was better than Chopra, by a mile. His son, if good enough will only get the best of everything to help him succeed in football, as his father knows how he missed out, and also how much football means in the UK and the world.

Family issues. Their families do not see sports as offering any kind of career. Right in a way, but stops young Asians really going for it. Many Asian athlete or budding athlete will tell you pretty much the same. Maybe, but Cricket is more than encouraged... The career aspect is a moot point anyway because football is a recreational sport first and foremost, then a spectator sport and lastly a career for the lucky few who are good enough to earn a living from it. Asian kids in the main simply aren't playing football under the recreation umbrella, not that they or anyone has to of course, but there isn't even a handful to name that have went from playing the game as a recreation, watching as a spectator, then playing the game for a living, Chopra is the only one really. Asian fans are increasing, so they are interested in football from a spectator perspective, but there are not many playing at Grassroots level while at professional level... we come back to Chopra. Why? Racism can be a cause, but I don't think it is a big one and again, even so, that shouldn't stop anyone, afterall it didn't stop black kids in the 60s and back then, attitudes towards minorities were shocking. Either way it needs looked into because a potential talent stream is being lost to the game. Sorry like but all the Asians round here do is play football all day every day when they are not working. (I sometimes play with them but the unfitter i get, the bigger tit i make of myself, also my age group go less, new lads play now, which shows generations are in to football) Seriously, just go to Marden Bridge and they've got ever pitch booked when the league is not on. Also these lads play all day every Sunday, and i mean 9am till 7pm. You bring up a good point about cricket, but in Asia cricket is a BIG fuking thing. BIG. My friends dad at nearly 70 still throws a cricket ball about in the back lane, its something inherited, the the father-son tradition we have for football.

What makes you think pool are after him? I think Pool will spend a lot to get D.Villa Just in the ballpark for a new striker imo. Will be replacing at least Fowler, Bellamy has given himself more time with that goal. Chelsea could go for him, cant see Sheva staying past this season. We however, unless we offload Owen to Liverpool or mistakingly cash in on Martins, will not able to raise the £15m+ needed to sign him. I wish, but i doubt it.

Could be Liverpool bound. Got the money we certainly dont.

http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=450361&CPID=23&clid=178&lid=10&title=Barca+stars+back+Ronnie

Family issues. Their families do not see sports as offering any kind of career. Right in a way, but stops young Asians really going for it. Many Asian athlete or budding athlete will tell you pretty much the same.

Taylor - Gooch & Bramble on the right. Rest Milner or Nobby for a game. See it Titus can keep it up on the right.

No, not really. I am glad to see that you acknowledge that you should not have added the FACT the statement of opinion. I would hope that you would reconsider that opinion and reflect on how you arrived at that belief. It would be good for you. Why would it? It's not going to affect my life in the slightest, and its fuking true. So one fact, yet you made a list of things i said as facts not opinions, you really cant add up or are making this up as you go along.

Spot on, 100%

Tried telling certain people this throughout the thread, your spot on opinion or near as damn it FACT mackems.gif is lost on certain individuals. again? Is it not a fact there are more black players in the game these days than back in the 80s? Are you stupid or thick? There are facts and there are the conclusions that are drawn from those facts. The fact that there are more players now than there were in the past does not support the other statements that you are offering as FACTS. ie. that anti-racism campaigns are proof of a lack of racism in club boardrooms that blacks are too lazy to apply for the correct badges that blacks can't be arsed to do the work that racism doesn't exist, isn't that bad, is just an excuse and on and on. I was laughing at your habit of throwing out an opinion (often a ill-considered, prejudiced one) and thinking, apparently, that it is validated by typing the word FACT in uppercase. Apart from there are more black players now than then backed with the word FACT (in fact i was agreeing with someone elses opinion and said near as damn it fact) "Its called hard work and taking a chance, huge barrier everyone faces, the race card is an easy way out as they simply cant be arsed." Is the only time i mentioned the word FACT, which TBF i shouldn't of, it was an opinion, but a right one. So really, your point is invalid, again. Not got some American shite to throw in the mix? No?

Tried telling certain people this throughout the thread, your spot on opinion or near as damn it FACT mackems.gif is lost on certain individuals. again? Is it not a fact there are more black players in the game these days than back in the 80s? Are you stupid or thick or are you going to fire more bullshit about America at me in a thread about the game in the UK?

Tried telling certain people this throughout the thread, your spot on opinion or near as damn it FACT is lost on certain individuals.

http://europeancups.altervista.org/rankings/team%20ranking%202006.htm Next season we'll be even better as one of our seasons without euro football gets knocked off the end.

UEFA ranking system. You get points for winning games or even just appearing in Europe, the more points the higher the team is placed. It matters when clubs are drawn at the start of euro campaigns. Its what seeds teams. Jose kicked off when he won the title yet got seeded behind Manu & Liverpool, Liverpool were ahead as they'd been play CL football for the last 4-5 years, chelsea had once or twice. Its also usually counted for over the last 5 years. We've got two years with poor or no co-ef at all.

Not "people" I notice, just "white people". I object to being stereotyped and discriminated against because of the colour of my skin. I think there's a word for that.

Does anyone like him? Yet the BBC will continue to show his face every time there is a match on.

WHat's that a list of btw? Average crowd I think Must be EPL crowd, certainly isn't our UEFA attendances. But shh....

Nice stats, where did you find em?

Fuking hell! No wonder Barca are ready to offload him.

I seriously wondered how the fuk we were going to get rid of him, i honestly thought we'd have to pay up his contract at one stage.

Yes, you can. A few years ago, perhaps twenty years ago know an interview was broadcast on American television with a man named http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Campanis in which this boardroom insider claimed that blacks lacked the necessarily requirements to be baseball managers. Read it for an education. Al Campanis worked for the Los Angeles Dodgers- the team that broke the race barrier in American baseball and first hired a black player, Jackie Robinson, in 1947. The club was long renowned and celebrated as the club that did the most to bring equal opportunities to everyone regardless of their race. His statements were so shocking precisely because he worked for the Dodgers and not, say, the Cincinnati Reds-- a club that might be compared to Everton. True. But comparing yourself with Spain doesn't really do you any favors. If an American politican in 1960s American tried to claim there was no racism in this country by pointing at South Africa, would you believe him? All good, but the highlighted which is disingenuous, dishonest, and, in my opinion, willfully ignorant. Here we witness a general decline into bullshit. Sad really No arguments to refute, just ugly bullshit And you reply with bullsiht examples from the fuking States? Get a grip, did you not read the thread title of "English football should be ashamed"? Or just whatever suits. Keep up the crap work.

Which is fair enough, your HM must be sick as fuk right now though.

Like i said before, how many black players were there in the 80's compared to now? Back then i'd quite imaging racism existed in the levels were talking about here (board room) but when you see all the big teams full of black or mixed players then you can hardly suggest those running the clubs are racists and don't want black managers. Most clubs, if not all run huge anti-racism campaigns which cost money and time (why would a racist board sanction this?) and the UK probably is the best place for a black player to play his football, many African players have stated this over the years, and find it hard to deal while playing in Europe with the open racism as they've forgotten the level of abuse that can happen elsewhere. It still does happen here, but its dealt with, and severe but fair punishment is handed down. More and more black players are making it as footballers, and when that career ends more and more will become coaches or at least try, more will become managers and then those who are good enough will succeed at the highest level. But that could take a while. If black people want to pull the racism card as an excuse to make them more determined to succeed, then i hope that works for them. But the ones who pull it as they simply cannot be arsed to take the course and take a chance and compete in an even harder job than they've just finished doing can piss off, you fool no one.

Part of the problem is that black players who want to become managers have seen the barriers, and consequently don't even bother doing the courses. So, you'll probably find that they are under represented there. Its called hard work and taking a chance, huge barrier everyone faces, the race card is an easy way out as they simply cant be arsed. Are you saying that black people are lazy? Anyone who uses that excuse is lazy. So, we know that a disproportionately large number of black players don't enter managerial course because they are lazy (more so than white players). Interesting view you hold there. If they are all using race as an excuse... But there not, not at all. Some go for it, some cant be bothered, some generally will be useless beyond Souness, then there are some who'll just hide their failings by pulling out the race card. 'I was good, i was a mint footballer why wont they give me a job? Is it coz i haven't got qualifications? Is it because i have no experience? Is it because i'm black? Hmm, that black thing works quite well, i'll use that.'