toontownman

Heres to limping to half time, if we are lucky enough to keep it at 0-1, then a full blooded effort after the annual half time bollocking, void of any creativity in the last third. Oh throw in a couple of stupid subs, like Owen for Jonas, Cacapa for Martins.

further highlights the whole sorry affair of which we are involved. worst still when i would now give bruce a glancing thought for the managers job. less than six months ago it would have been laughable.

Maybe the title needs changing to what Should it take. seems increasingly more likely we will hire him full time Regardless over whether its the right thing or not .

I dont understand everyone assuming its enrique, jfk was only praising him and saying how important he was a couple of days ago.

Fuck me we are really up shit creek. i could give two shits whether ashley stays or sells i just want a permenant manager in and some solidarity, we are a mess and if its not sorted before xmas we are done.

Think how many goals he would have had if he was at arsenal the past three years.

Should be playing in the reserves, is well off the pace and far from aclimatised to the league. Isnt going to get a game ahead of ameobi anytime soon.

Might aswell pick martinez if we are going young up and comers in england. Rikjaard for me but im dreaming, also spelt his name wrong i think.

OUT OF THE RELEGATION ZONE! for now...

GET IN!

Just keep the ball for fuck sakes, dont pump it down to loose it.

What the fuck are we doing to ourselves? Great stuff from Colo.

4 fucking minutes where the hell did that come from?

Why is Geremi running like the Gimp?

OH FOR FUCK SAKE.

Just aswell we have the fittest squad in the league or we would really be in trouble.

God I wish we would stop trying to be fancy and just pass the ball around and retain it.

Who?

Are any of our players awake?

De ja vu anyone? Fucking Taylor.

Fucking typical, we have no fucking idea how to defend a lead. The game should have been dead long before half time. Now we will sweat it out, be nervous as fuck for the last 20 minutes and more than likely shoot ourselves in the foot. That or we will score and everything will be fine.

Good job, just what we needed. We need to calm the fuck down though the majority of our passing is woeful, I'm sure thats exactly what Kinnear is telling them though. We show the opposition WAY too much respect but nerves are unavoidable given our current form and situation. A quick third after the break and we can relax a bit and start enjoying it. Some great work when we are not messing it up, looks good for the future though if we can just get the confidence to relax a bit and enjoy our football.

Anyone know if he is back training? still alive??

Given, Beye, Taylor, Colo, Enrique, Jonas, Barton, Butt, Duff (N'Zog), Ameobi, Martins For me. Need to keep Taylor and Colo consistent through the rough times if we really want to build them up together, Enrique in for Bassong, he offers more coming forward I believe JFK thinks so too given the evidence of his subbing on Saturday, we will have the home support and will look to go attacking so dropping Bassong wouldnt upset me. I dont have much time for Butt although I think Guthrie isnt quite there yet and right now we need as much experience as we can get. Im undecided on Duff although I think he has more bottle than N'Zog who would work much better in a team with confidence. We need to go get the three points and build some confidence.

Can't hurt to venture some qualified thoughts - you weren't over the moon, I take it. I was pretty happy with him, myself. Barely put a foot wrong but I'm feeling a little uneasy about the hype of our new players on very little evidence (other than Coloccini who I think is proven class), simply because when they underperform slightly or make one rick, that then gets pushed to the other extreme and they're s***/not adapting/not developing/whatever. So you're not saying he looks possibly good now so that you can take the moral high ground when someone starts saying he looks bad if/when he makes a mistake? That approach never bloody works, man, it won't be remembered - might as well just go with the flow No I just think making any judgement of a Premier League centre half against a poor Championship side is inevitably going to be flawed and people inevitably build themselves up for disappointment. He played very well tonight and that's as much as anyone can say. I think some of the stuff written about Jonas and Guthrie has been daft too. They've both looked quality but it's what they do season after season that matters and I think a lot of people will end up disappointed because early on, everyone judges a player as a whole over a couple of games. If Michael Owen has a shitter, no-one mentions it and it's not a problem because he won't next week because he's a good player and has been for a long time. If Jonas has a shitter next week or Coloccini makes an error that costs us a goal, it'll be panic stations on here (OH NO THEY WON'T ADAPT!) and it's ridiculous. Thought I'd bump this on the back of the slagging that Kinnear, Bassong and Guthrie are getting. Build 'em up, knock 'em down. Tbh.