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why does he stay ???the song hatem ben arfa it's shit He stays for the same reason he came. Now f*** off s*** hustler.

I'd field a full strength team and hope we can get a good lead to take over there. But no matter what happens I'd still take a second string for the away leg, I wouldn't even have the likes of Debuchy, Coloccini, Santon, Cabaye, Sissoko or Cisse on the plane.

Missing the point aren't you? http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php?topic=91466.msg4214606#msg4214606

You know for a fact it will. Aye, Debuchy and Anita are testaments to that. The debuchy hate on here was ridiculous. People wanting Simpson back ffs. For me its a dream come true having two full backs who can actually play the ball... Were some people really saying that? Who were they so I can add them to my ignore list..

I thought they just faded second half. They had been everywhere first half, inspired the lead. We were winning every 50/50. We changed nowt at half time but Villa made a couple of massive changes and came out 3 gears up on what they had been. Looked a different team. In my view, Pardew didn't want to bring off Sissoko but wanted him more involved. He had to do something about midfield. Straight swapping Gutierrez wouldn't have helped that much as he's one of the hardest workers (if disappointing tonight) and Obertan wasn't even on the bench as an option....so he sacrificed Perch to drop Sissoko deeper. It didn't really work out as we were still desparately hoofing. We still have limited options on the bench, despite all the transfer activity. We changed our mentality in the second half after another well timed Pardew team talk, we were panicky from the second they stepped back onto the pitch. Fair enough Villa came out fighting and got a very lucky penalty decision at the worst possible time for us, I'm not going to blame Pardew for absolutely everything. But IMO swapping Gutierrez could certainly have helped that, whenever the ball came near him he fucked up which was part of the reason we couldn't keep the ball or gain any kind of cohesion. Had no idea Obertan was left out (didn't think he was injured??). In that case either Sammy or Anita was Gutierrez could still have improved things.

Does it matter who he hugged after the game? He'd originally left Jonas out but had to reinstate him when Marveaux got injured. Whatever Jonas did or didn't do on the pitch he gave 100% and AP was thanking him for the effort imo. Got no problem with him putting his arm around Gutierrez, its not really his fault that he's a bit shit he is still putting the effort in. Also I hope his starting lineup was Marveaux instead of Guti. Though I've no idea why Gutierrez was the backup plan to Marveaux.

He was out wide first half too...when we dominated the game, took a 2 goal lead and Cisse himself was one of the scorers. Must have been watching a different game to me, mate. Did we not dominate the first half? We did. Cisse played as the central striker first half though. Aye. Went out wide when Shola came on. So he played wide for 20 minutes.....20 minutes where we had one man in their half most the time anyway. Tactical blunder to be sacked for...after a win. Right. If that was the only blunder he made it may have been forgivable. Can't disagree with either of the new 2 going off after barely being involved second half, or that the other new lad came on. So the complaints are Perch came off or Shola/Anita came on. There was no-one else on the bench I particularly fancied coming on. They were less involved due to the way he had us setup to play. Far better to change the way we were playing to allow them to get on the ball then remove them from the pitch and replace them with worse players. Why not leave Perch in midfield and take Jonas off and replace him with Obertan. You get rid of our worst player in the game (as much as I like Gutierrez he was miss controlling everything, giving away dangerous freekicks, he was a liability) and then have some pace to hit them on the break. But instead he takes off Perch for Shola and puts Cisse on the wing with Gutierrez still their fucking everything up. What fucking good was that? Not to mention he then brings on a central defender into defensive midfield when he's only just taken Perch out of that position, he's nuts man!

That's if he could manage it before being taken off for Shola..

Very rarely is anyone 100% responsible for anything. But when you're manager consistently causes your team as many problems as possible it certainly doesn't fucking help!

I said to a few friends after the Reading game we'd be relegated 100% unless Pardew left or we signed some really good players to counter his atrocious management. Luckily we did get some good players in but its still looking difficult with him in charge.

Astonishing. I hope he's just being kind there. Then again nothing he's said there is crazier then his team selections/substitutions so maybe not.

tactics probably the same as the first but they never responded from the whistle in the second half. the players never responded to the higher pressure and tempo. Probably the same? Or looking at all of our other performances under Pardew, were they probably different? Given that we almost always concede initiative if we're winning. looking at today we didn't have the ball enough to see if we'd changed tactics. one thing for definite, cabaye and sissoko had nowhere near the movement looking for the ball and working in the second half, or was that pardews tactic, stand still 35yds out and don't even trail back ? I think this is a point that needs to be understood. Obviously Pardew didn't manage to shore things up at all, but the game fragmented and turned into a situation where almost no gameplan was going to be implementable. If you remove Gutierrez from the pitch at some point that could have gone a long way to sorting things out.

Fucking catastrophe of a manager.

That's right it was Jonas. Depends what you're talking about. Gutierrez blocked the first shot, Yanga-Mbiwa got the last ditch tackle in to stop the second shot. My thoughts on the match. Good first half, then the usual, poor refereeing decisions and Pardew doing his best to help Villa almost fucked us again. Very good result, but again I'm left worried if we can beat anyone else with Pardew sabotaging every match.

Here we go again, lets give Villa every chance eh Pardew?

The early goal has been our problem though recently, when we've scored it we've stopped playing in the second half. As soon as we score Pardew does his best to ensure we can't score again.

Wonder how much we'll still be paying this fucker?

Depends on his character and what they offer him. Of course they'll likely offer him mental money and unless he's truley determined to play first team Football (or they really want him in the starting lineup) he'll go their in that case.

Not if we go 3 at the back Maybe, but never going to happen like

Did you miss the Yanga-Mbiwa signing? No. We could still do with another one. Just like we could still do with another striker. Think three top class centre backs is a bit over the top like. In the summer we need another top class centre back, but not now.

At no point was he bothered enough about his career to sacrifice a penny of the money we're contracted to pay him, why feel sorry for the bloke, he's obviously happy enough doing what he's doing. Though I'm sure once he leaves, and there's no longer any risk of losing so much as a weeks wages in fines, he'll tell us about the hell he's gone through over the past several years

You mustn't have seen Malandro very often.

That's the point isn't it Mr Happy Clappy. Signing a few players is no guarantee that good times are just around the corner. Especially when you limit yourself to one market because of its perceived value for money. MA has thrown the masses a few shiny trinkets to try and avoid relegation and suddenly everybody is losing sight of how we ended up in this position, where we are in the league and how the club is being run. Enjoy the good times if and when they arrive. For now everybody who cares about NUFC would be well advised to keep their eye on the ball. It was complacency that got us into our current plight and complacency is the biggest threat to escaping relegation. We've bought quality players in the positions we needed to improve the first team, a few trinkets.. Aye, and it's called Mike Ashley. I'm not going to waste my time explaining how he's playing the supporters for fools. Anyone who doesn't get it by now isn't going to get it until the end game arrives. You don't like Mike Ashley so signing several very good players desperately needed by the team you support isn't exciting?, no you've lost me.

That's why the 'you obviously want us to spend £50m' s**** doesn't stack up. We're clearly able to afford these deals, and it's to the club's credit that they're so reasonable. It's about recognising when you have to go the extra mile. In the summer the club didn't, and now they are. I just want to know where other clubs are with these players. It's not like we do it one or two players, about 8-9 of our squad we've got for way below their market value. It makes absolutely no sense - a genuinely world class, all action midfielder for under 2 million quid, and we don't give out stupid wages either. The logical assumption would be he's not world class. It's hard to imagine Europe's top clubs were aware a world class player was running down his contract but made no attempt to sign him on the cheap. I don't recall seeing this lad play but five international appearances in four years doesn't scream world class to me. France must have some unbelievable midfielders if a genuinely world class player can hardly get a game. Can't think who they might be mind. Out of interest how many times have you seen him play? He's 23, nobody said he's been world class since he was 19.. OK, when did he become world class? Last week, the 17th June 2010.... About 45 days ago I think.. Seriously, what I'm saying is theirs no point in gauging a players current ability at 23 years old based on looking at his international record over the last 4 years. What does an international record 2, 3 or 4 years ago tell us about the current ability of a 23 year old player? (considering how much players often develop between the ages of 18 and mid 20's). Look at his record this year by all means. Notice I didn't actually say he was world class, just an excellent player worth far more than £2m.

That's why the 'you obviously want us to spend £50m' s**** doesn't stack up. We're clearly able to afford these deals, and it's to the club's credit that they're so reasonable. It's about recognising when you have to go the extra mile. In the summer the club didn't, and now they are. I just want to know where other clubs are with these players. It's not like we do it one or two players, about 8-9 of our squad we've got for way below their market value. It makes absolutely no sense - a genuinely world class, all action midfielder for under 2 million quid, and we don't give out stupid wages either. The logical assumption would be he's not world class. It's hard to imagine Europe's top clubs were aware a world class player was running down his contract but made no attempt to sign him on the cheap. I don't recall seeing this lad play but five international appearances in four years doesn't scream world class to me. France must have some unbelievable midfielders if a genuinely world class player can hardly get a game. Can't think who they might be mind. Out of interest how many times have you seen him play? He's 23, nobody said he's been world class since he was 19.. Anyway I'd agree that world class its a big label to put on him. Certainly seems to be an excellent player though, worth several times more than £2m.