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Some people can see the bigger picture. Last time I was all up for protests ect, which ended up helping us down into the Championship. I've learnt from that, it apears some people haven't. Can we stop this ridiculous bollocks. The protests didn't relegate us. Please take the time to read properly because I can't be bothered with pointless arguments in my current state! I said HELPING us down, it caused even more termoil which made everything worse both on and off the pitch.

We are nothing but a vessel to him. He has his logo on OUR Gallowgate end. He tried to rename OUR stadium sportsdirect.com@StJames' Park He has his logos on boards all around OUR stadium and city. I'm not with the cowards who think we should bend over and take it from this cunt anymore. It's time to make a stand. Great point. He's just using us to promote his other business. Doesn't care if we stay up or go down, as long as we hover in between. Precisely. Going down is beneficial for him. How much has he saved over the last 18 months or so with the likes of Martins, Owen, Viduka, Geremi etc off the wage bill? Please tell me you're joking Using that Dowie pic has just given me a horrible idea of our next manager

Some people can see the bigger picture. Last time I was all up for protests ect, which ended up helping us down into the Championship. I've learnt from that, it apears some people haven't.

They're making exactly the same mistakes as last time, sacking managers and causing termoil at the club were there was none otherwise, we were doing well, WHAT THE FUCK!. Now what are they going to do?, bring in a replacement like Kinear?? I was on night shift the other dau and have only just got up, I feel like I've woken up in the twilight zone.

This is fucking insane!, how can they sack him! how?!!

As long as he doesn't use one of those kick machines or smash a bottle of beer over his own head like Woodgate I'm not bothered.

Maybe just that those people never believed the hype. Players do often seem to get better or worse while they're injured though in some people's views, its a strange phenomenon.

As long as we look to sell him once we have him under contract again and use that money to replace him with someone better/better value for money I'm also happy for him to sign the deal. At the end of the day he's not even a first choice player, there's no way we should be looking to pay a backup player £50k a week long term. I also don't believe he's ever going to develop into a better player, in case anyone brings that up

Rubbish.. Yeah its more like £300m+

He hasn't like.

I think Ashley's plan on transfers, at least for the last few years, has been to break even while in the Premiership. Wether that means we absolutely had to sell Milner, I don't know, I don't think its that simple. But it seems likely they would have been looking to even things up somewhere (obviously we could have not bought Nolan to help even things up). Would Ashley sell any of our players if needs be? Lets just say IF we went out and spent £30m on players I'd be worried about Carroll being sacrified to bring that money back in, as far as past history goes anyway Also bare in mind that during the seasons we've broken even on transfers we lost significant amounts of money overall and Ashley had to subsidise that. Hopefully with the club now in better shape financially we can start to do a bit better then breaking even on transfers. Yes I'm being optimistic, I could be even more optimistic and say that in January we'll sell Smith for the exact same amount we paid for Tiote but that would just be silly

We already spent over £12m before we sold Milner. Look at the transfers in vs transfers out during our time in the Premiership under Ashley, we've broken even every year, I doubt that's a coincidence.

Hate to get into this again like but while we've been in the Premiership every penny of transfers has always gone back into the team. In future maybe it wouldn't, always a possibility, but I wouldn't assume that'd be the case. I agree we shouldn't sell him under normal circumstances, then again the current transfer market isn't normal (Milner going for £20m+ FFS )

There's always one..

I read all of it.

You are funny! It would appear that CH and his staff are completely incompetent in your eyes as they obviously do not agree. They have the temerity to play MW ahead of Campbell and Taylor for EVERY match. This must really irk you. Of course, the best bit is to couch your argument with the "concern" that they are fit so that when they are s**** against Chelsea at the weekend you can fall back upon this as the reason and continue to bang on about there obvious superiority. Here's a clue - players get in to the starting 11 because they are the manager's best choice of available player. It is fairly straightforward. I guess Butt used to be our best player then since he never got dropped. Another thing is, he is worse than Campbell and Taylor. Willy hasn't reached the potential the others two have, I'm can't say his worse right now, but he's a much more limited player than two stated before. I mean after all like you said I am not the manager and if Willy impresses in training then of course he should play. But what I'm debating is the fact that he's been lucky several times to escape booking, I mean if he gets those bookings he would've been off earlier, and maybe that would've been better since he wouldn¨t do something stupid as this. Campbell reached his potential several years ago but has obviously gone backwards (despite still being a good defender). Taylor is unlikely to ever get much better then he is now (he's almost 25 for fuck sake, lets stop talking about potential). Campbell is possibly still better then Williamson, though neither of us have seen enough of him to make any sound judgement, Taylor on the other hand is our 4th best center back IMO.

Don't Bolton have massive debts? If he's scoring and on a free, I doubt they could match the wages someone else would offer. This was on the official website: "I've been talking to Eddie Davies and he's asked me to clarify the Bolton debt bandied around at £100million. Eddie's put £90million into this club, and the actual external debt is a mere £10million and that's secured at Barclays Bank." We don't particularly need to sell, unless someone comes in with an offer we can't refuse: Cahill and Al-Habsi are the most likely to go. The debt isn't the issue, the losses are. How are Bolton going to either cut costs or increase revenue sufficiently to cover a £34m annual loss? I can't see the owner continually putting £30m+ into the club to cover it.

Did anyone watch the game yesterday? Were they actually rubbish? I know they lost, but they had 32 shots to 3, and 16 corners to 4. I know their job is to break the oppo down, but it looks like the bus-parking exercise to end all bus-parking exercises. I didn't see the Birmingham game (at work) but I did see them vs Sunderland and they were certainly shit then. Either way my point was that losing Lampard and Essien has hurt them quite badly and considering neither will be back for Sunday there's no reason to think they'll be the same old Chelsea against us either.

Chelsea have been shit recently for a reason, no Essien/Lampard. They're still missing for our game and with Tiote back we'll improve, 2:1 to Newcastle.

Top in that assessment yes (if the BBC are correct anyway).

You can't really be serious their, a striker getting into a position to get a chance on goal and missing is wasting possession?.. "Lovenkrands ya bastad, ya should av hit that one on one with the keeper back ta Coloccini and kept possession!" I'm leaving before I crack up.

Yeah that's exactly the same thing, well done You hate Lovenkrands, I get it, but if you could see past that and come up with an argument that makes sense I'd really appreciate it.

What could possibly give you that confidence considering Best hasn't scored a Premiership goal and Xisco barely looks like he could carve out a chance in this league (when he's played). I don't get the Lovenkrands bashing, on Saturday I thought he should have done better with a couple of his chances, but at least he got into a position to get those chances! No doubt that he's not good enough as a first team regular for a Premiership team that expects to stay up, however I'd still say he's our third best striker.

And the away win at Everton, and Arsenal, and hammering Villa, beating Chelsea in the cup, outplaying Man City... quite a lot of paper we've got over those cracks. Pedantic perhaps, but I disagree about you "outplaying" Man City. 2 big decisions went wrongly against you so if we're using those incidents then yes, you should have absolutely got something from the game. However I can't remember you outplaying them. Feel free to correct this. It was three big decisions I'd say we were the better team, but they did have their chances.

No point in red cards/suspensions either? Anything that highlights what a cunt De Jong is, is a good thing IMO. At the very least its embarrassing for him to be continually left out by his own manager for something that I'm sure he'd rather people forgot. At best it lets the player know that if he does it again next time he might not get back in.