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£1.5m is worth it to get promoted, but £2m isn't? IMO they're bluffing it to try to get as much money as possible.

As already said in reply Madrid are skint and getting £85k a week off their books is worth it. Leeds do not need to sell as much If they don't sell then they're effectively paying out £1.5m plus Beckfords wages to have the player for 6 months. That's just not viable for a League One club.

Surely the real issue here isn't how much they paid for players, but the wages they paid out. They made a good profit on buying and selling players, but the wages they gave those players while they were at the club was so exorbitant they still bankrupted themselves. So at the end of the day no matter how much profit they made on selling these players it was still a mistake to sign them. Both Redknapp and Storrie should have known better and both are to blame IMO.

Hopefully they're just being quiet because they think we'll be pissed off that they've sold him Maybe they want to get an incoming signing completed to announce at the same time to soften the blow

let's get into the premier league first eh It's best to think ahead, rather than spending millions on players for now we don't need later and have trouble offloading for a similar fee we have paid. We need to find the right kind of players who won't mind playing in the Championship for 6 months but can then step up and do the business in the top flight. Not many of these players around, but they are out there. If Beckford can't do it in the Premiership it would be easy to sell him on for at least what we paid for him and most likely a profit. There's no risk there what so ever.

Nice one

id say all of our players out deals in the last 18 months are staggered ones so i don't think player sales covered the loss due to ashley having to put in 20m to cover running costs and cost cutting measures in place. Remember the wage bill may be well down but its still huge by championship standards I agree mostly, though we have to remember that our revenue is also still huge by championship standards.

Agreed, unless he decides to sack Hughton and bring in an ostrich to replace him then we'll be fine.

Also lets be honest, the Derby game was one of those were the ball just wouldn't go in the net, similar to Bristol City at home. With any luck at all we'd have been a few up within the first half an hour and even after that we had the kind of chances we'd normally put away 9 times out of 10 (Taylors header and Rangers chance for instance).

Some people thought the wheels had falling off during that four game winless run earlier in the season (a much worse run then we're on now), its no closer to happening this time. Also all through the season we've come up against the odd team that puts us under pressure, simply because its their cup final. Other teams are overawed by us and IMO we'll continue to see both scenarios throughout the season. All we need to do really is not sell anyone important, so Geremi can fuck off for a start

Zog was an absolute waste of space in his final season here. I was glad when we sold him and I haven't changed my mind now.

Wenger's comments are bollocks like, but do you honestly think he'd ask a player to do what Delap does even if he had someone capable of it?, because I don't.

Not that funny really, no matter how poor he was in the Premiership last year he was clearly a class La Liga defender.

£12m or fuck off

Even the best defenders in the world will still make the odd mistake that will give a striker a chance, he absolutely was outstanding today. I certainly don't think his improved performances are simply due to second rate strikers at this level either. If you look past the opposition Coloccini himself has improved and changed the way he plays. Of course he still has flaws that could be punished more often in the Premiership, but he's definitely getting more used to our game.

If I was I'd do myself. Anyway I got 1462, so close enough.

Bastards, I just counted the lot, came on here and you've already counted them

So who actually missed out?

But makes perfect sense to have a couple stadiums close to one another to host group games, non? Well, you could say that but if that was the case why dont they just use 6 London Stadiums!?! I can't think of 6 London stadiums good enough.

Loan players are exactly what we need now. Players who are good enough for this league that we won't be stuck with next year. If we want players good enough to keep us in the Premiership then we should be signing then from a position of strength in the Premiership. Those kind of players either won't sign for you in the Championship or want even more cash then normal.

Snipped as I'm only replying to this part - I agree about Zog not being interested but he was one of the few we had who could make something happen out of nothing. Think how close we were to staying up, to lose someone like that, interested or not, could have made all of the difference. One piece of magic that led to a goal against any one of a number of teams would have been enough. It's infuriating really. I know what you mean, but we could equally say that he might have done even less then his replacement and made us even worse, he was just too shit that season to fret over IMO.

Mowen I just don't think Zog was interested in the slightest anymore, he might have scored a goal or he might not but I certainly wouldn't call him important. Geremi can fuck off even if nobody was replacing him, he's our 6th choice central midfielder and doesn't even get near the pitch while he picks up his £60k+ a week, unfortunately nobody's going to come in for him. At least he'll be gone next season. Barton is a difficult one, he certainly had talent and should still have it but he's not showing it, even in this shit league. When he's not in prison or being shit he's injured and again on £60k+ a week. I'd rather bring through the likes of LuaLua and Vuckic if neccesary then keep him.

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/nufc/newcastle-united-news/2009/12/14/hands-off-our-stars-warns-boss-chris-hughton-72703-25386773/ Disastrous, that's nothing more than a backhanded invitation for bids...about as good as sticking up the CLEARANCE - EVERYTHING MUST GO! signs in the shop windows...something Ashley's all too good at doing. You just HAVE to be taking the piss, surely?

They mention the end of the Northern Rock sponsorship deal, but not the fact that we haven't received money from Norther Rock in years (due to Freddy getting it all up front and spending it). The end of that deal and beginning of a new one is actually a financial boost. Pitty Ashley had to ruin it by fucking up the Adidas deal, I wonder how much less we'll get from another shirt maker? I suppose it depends whether or not they have the brains to wait until the club is back in the Premiership before negotiating any new deals.